Meta is banning discussion of the 'Network State' concept; a Silicon Valley Oligarch-funded idea to replace American democracy with corporate government.

The fascist in front of the curtain is loud enough already.

Let's not forget how we got here though cause if we do forget & survive this round, won't be long before it comes back. I'm specifically referring to the pro-genocide candidate that we were all lied to about their cognition until we all saw the emperor had no clothes. Then they anointed the Cheney supporter that couldn't think of anything she'd do differently.

I just found out like a week ago. Look up techno feudalism. Apparently these guys have been talking about it for a long time.

There's a whole video that blew up a couple weeks ago about this. Highly recommend you watch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RpPTRcz1no

You’re going to have to spread it IRL, because the media will not allow this to gain traction.

It's fascist city states that market themselves as tax free libertarian, likely hedonistic. Tech has little (maybe ultra deregulated healthcare) to do with anything other than billionaires who came from tech get to decide who is allowed in. This is a model in Israel and Arab kingdoms with less hedonism, but high slavery levels.

The US is definitely on path to collapse. Current administration is accelerating it. Gifting federal lands to become tax havens is setting it to 11.

Many of these tech bros also talk about an actual solution: Freedom dividends. High tax libertarianism with freedom for all. Power redistribution. Don't compete for jobs we can't do as well as China or robots. Or spend on/promote war. Freedom dividends ends crimes and makes fair labour markets. Fascism and slavery as the "libertarian utopian phoenix from ashes of US" is going to be straight mad max fascism and slavery instead of utopia.

Just double checked, and it's archive both on org and is. That's good.

Tech fascists see America’s democracy and financial system as collapsing.

That's because you're the one breaking it down

Fuck them and u/Spez. They can ban me for all i care

That's not a joke, ALL these dudes have extensive doomsday prep. Secure facilities, staffed and stocked. There's a ton of reporting on it. They're gonna fare a LOT better than we are if shit gets really outta hand. Unless we do something about them before it gets to that point, anyway.

Edit: added a detail

Imagine just letting him be in his bunker, but you park a cement truck on top of the door.

His bunker on a Hawaiian Island. Dude really wants to be far away from everything when shit pops off.

The native Hawaiians should reclaim their land he stole so he doesn't have a bunker anymore

Crypto exchanges need to be taxed.

We edge closer to Weyland-Yutani hegemony every day, only the IRL technocrats will be stupider and greedier

They’ll ban discussion of democracy next, and then voting.

Damn right they should!

Managed Democracy is the true path, all who resist it shall suffer our wrath~.

(I hate the possibility that this could be a real thing in the future)

Zuckerberg:( hello fellow organic lifeform, you must not converse in my take over of your limited lifespan

Peter thiel* is a bigger puppet master, he just doesn't want to be the face. He wants the world to collapse so he can rebuild it into his techno feudalism dream. This is all to plan

Tesla tubby is illegitimate parasite leeching on American government and taxpayer...

Federal government needs to consume some ivermectin

corporation*

what's the difference between government censorship, and corporate censorship by organs closely tied to the government, and corporate censorship by organs closely tied to the government where certain phrases are randomly declared punishable by death?

Yeah, I was shadowbanned twice in a week because Reddit filters are garbage.

What does shadow banning typically look like? I would assume you don't get a notification? How do you find out?

i wish. if i delete whatsapp ill be completely isolated, even from some businesses. sadly they cornered the entire market in my country including sms.

it would unironically take a big outage for everyone to move though. heres hoping an industrious hacker is willing to paint that kind of target on their own back.

I am a Taco Bell man myself. Gotta side with winners, ya know?

Really I'd wager it's more Snow Crash myself, it's a book that most of these Silicon Valley guys would have grown up with.

Agreed.

Don't accept it when organizations require you to sign up and hand over personal information to private and commercial third parties. Requiring Facebook is an active attempt at curbing participation.

Contact those places and ask for an alternative -the less people participate the quieter the discussions the more likely they are to at least try to switch over if they start feeling some pressure.

Yeah, I dumped facebook right after the election but unfortunately most of my friends and family are only on WhatsApp.

Very important video indeed

Yup, this is a very important video. She's hardly the first to address it too.

the only reason to ban it is if it’s their plan

Someone else already posted it, but I'll post it too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RpPTRcz1no

Ya, but now you can't talk about it.

America was never a democracy in the first place

Basically. I mean there's a bit more to it than that but it's the core idea. It's also the goal of several tech oligarchs which is why he doesn't want the peons to be able to talk about it.

Nah. Like in Snowcrash.

I'm reading the Sprawl trilogy along with Shelved By Genre, and Gibson harps on the note that 'the Ultra Rich aren't human', and has some great examples in the books.

I think he was very observant, and Musk makes it so blatant.

I think they do that on purpose. These powerful players not the idiots voting for them.

I have another solution, it's a little bloodier

We're all terminally ill on a long enough timeline.

So... Was that an offer to be our chad?

facefuck facebook

In modern day the difference between tin foil conspiracy and out right conspiracy appears to be about 6 months

She's been caught in some stealth edits and other unethical practises when trying to push a specific narrative. I don't trust her reporting very much after following her work during the Depp-Heard trial in '22. It is unfortunate that her need to push her, or her publishers, agenda appears to be more important than honest reporting, and I'm saying this as a very left-leaning, queer person.

(//Edited to correct the year of the Depp-Heard trial. Covid times were strange and it all blends together.)

Here’s a similar article discussing the techno-libertarian movement from a different author. Covers similar themes and explicitly discusses the Network State as an ideology

She is a decent left leaning reporter. She is a good writer

She might be the one that Libs of Tiktok has an unhealthy stalkery lady boner for.

I agree. Coming together to build something scientifical or technological that doesn't involve the government doesn't necessarily mean coming up with corporate money to fund and exclude everyone but their personal interests.

This is a social endeavor like any other. You can't blaim bringing people together for the corporate interests of this kind of enterprise (the Network State).

what an outrageously obtuse and factually devoid take.

congrats, you win the award for worst oversimplification I've ever read.

you can't do much with the award. Then again I can't do much with whatever you posted, so I guess that makes us even.

Everyone seems to forget a bunch of tech bros bought almost $1B worth of land in Solano County CA with the stated goal of building a new city. It made national headlines for a bit as the buyer was initially a mystery and it’s near Travis Air Force base so there was concern it was foreign actors.

I believe the idea is that Trump is likely to sell our national parks to them.

That's the current conspiracy gossip I believe.

It won't be the Billionaires who have to live in places like South Dakota, it will be their workers/slaves who will.

Link to the video

Lol what gave you that impression

They’re not opt-in when the government is fully captured. They’re not opt-in like every battle against corporate takeover we’ve lost over the last several decades, from net neutrality to effective monopolies to Musk wreaking havoc in the government.

Years ago I thought Balaji was a genius. But now he's just a rich guy who thinks just because he's smart and has a a crowd he can weigh in on everything.

The idea that a "network state" where an on-line community using NFTs as passports to sleep on each other's couch would somehow be recognized by actual countries makes for a cool sci-fi plot (I'd read that!). But it has no place in reality.