“You can't be expected to have a successful AI program when every article, book or anything else that you've read or studied, you're supposed to pay for”, President Trump says
Trump Says He’s ‘Getting Rid of Woke’ and Dismisses Copyright Concerns in AI Policy Speech
Wow so fuck college students but machines deserve free textbooks?
Fuck this society.
Just download digital copies of the textbooks and say you need them as training material for your own AI dataset when the copyright holders come after you.
I'm training a neural network. It's just that the neural network is 1 layer with zero data reduction -so it's only capable of printing the text exactly as the source material on my computer! AI finally works!
Just download the books and say its for your neural network project
just happens your also the project
machine learning = good
human learning = bad
machines * big Tech Corps
Countless dystopian novels have explored machine‘s human rights but the machines have already been granted more rights than us in our own dystopia. 💀
You don't have libraries in the schools there in the USA? (It is a question, not sarcasm or something)
Not for textbooks...
Like, if your curious there's a bunch of info out there about why the situation is so fucked.
But in general they release new editions almost every year, with the same information just shuffled so page numbers are different. Even really petty stuff like keeping the same practice work, but changing the order of answers so you need the most updated book every year.
We do. The issue is at the college/university level, most courses require specific edition textbooks (they update them every 1-2 years) that the professors assign homework questions out of. You'll be lucky if the school library has a copy more recent than the last 8 years.
Then on top of that, many professors will also use digital 3rd party homework services that are tied to a textbook access code that you only get with a new copy. So unless you pay up you can't do homework and fail the class.
The whole system is fucking bullshit
it's fine when the theft flows up the pyramid. it's not fine when the theft is us stealing back what was always ours
actually Donnie's friends prefer to fuck high school students
"I'm going to training ai using this"
Yes, one would expect human intelligence to benefit quite a lot from free access to information.
Become a more common occurrence too. Possibly an effect much stronger than that of AI requiring lots of computation with unpredictable shittiness of the output.
🙌 Communist Trump is making all textbooks free 🙌
You can't defeat the fascist mental illness with logic. Fascism is a fusion of corporation and state. The only rule of law is whatever the dictator(s) believe protects their regimes/corporations profits.
In this case, Americas big tech — of which Trump recently merged some with the military — has determined copyright laws should not apply to them, and Trump is voicing their opinion (he doesn't know how anything works).
You can’t defeat the fascist mental illness with logic.
More generally, you can't reason people out of an opinion that they didn't reason their way into in the first place.
Comrade
He also fucked children
Raped.
You can't be expected to have a successful AI program without the release of the full text of the Epstein files (minus protection for the victims, of course).
Copyright is woke now? xD
Good, keep convincing them that copyright is woke. And we don't want anything woke right, wink wink
Don’t worry, it’ll still be rules for thee, but not for me. That’s how fascism works.
Sssh. This might be the first time in the last 100 years copyright isn't EXPANDED for the benefit of publishers. I'll hold my breath until we see if they figure out a way to reduce copyright only for silicon valley corporations while expanding it for the rest of us. Or not...
If only he were capable of being so consistent. He thinks what people pay him to think.
So what he’s saying is the billionaires funding ai can’t afford to do it legitimately
Of course not! If they did then they'd be several fractions of a billion less wealthy!
Remember kids: Copyright is only for the rich.
For the poor? the rich dont pay copyright, only grandma who downloaded nothing else matter's mp3
Copyright means a legal protection showing you own your own works: words written, audio recorded, and artwork created.
With exceptions for nonprofit and parody, others cannot use your work to do businesss with without your written permission.
Poor people apparently don't get that.
It’s weird spunding, but they mean copyright fines.
So, hypothetically speaking, if I pirate a bunch of stuff and I get caught, I can claim I used it to train an AI model and all charges are dropped? (According to his statement, not current applicable laws)
I needed to pirate that extensive game, movie, and porn library to train a gaming, movie, and porn recomendation model
Of course not, the rules are for thee.
Theres a common misconception that downloading data is illegal when it's generally sharing is what gets you in trouble. There are very few people who get fined for piracy downloads around the world.
I believe it's mostly illegal for both parties, but in practice less often enforced for the downloading party, as this enforcement would require too much resources for the enforcing side.
To give concrete examples, downloading pirated material is illegal in both the U.S and in Sweden, and afaik the latter is on par with the rest of the EU.
But ... Sharing is Caring ... Gotta keep that ratio above 20!
How very socialist of him
More like national socialist
So why can't I read them for free too? Only massive billion dollar companies get stuff for free?
I would like to announce that I am pioneering a new AI program. Give me access to all of the movies for free please.
Yep when Napster just linked people who shared files between them, it was the end of the world. So it's fine when it's bigtech / AI?
Yes, there are people who want to have authority and think that if they got to the very top - Google, Meta, whatever, or some government, - then their ideas about authority have become law.
In fact, of course, they are just jerks who'll drop the soap at every step in prison for the rest of their lives when the problem is finally rectified, and it's being slowly rectified.
My thoughts exactly. You can’t expect to have a successful file sharing system if you have to get permission for everything you distribute, you guys!
Well, there are some very successful file sharing systems. That horse did bolt with Napster.
How about you release the Epstein files and then go outside and go fuck yourself Trump.
and then go outside and go fuck yourself Trump.
He is a big baby, so he might be into it.
He's not a barely pubescent girl, he won't fuck himself.
And that's why I have an AI training library of movies and TV stored up.
I'll get around to training an AI on it any day now, I'm sure.
I've already started training my AI. My Actual Intelligence.
Hear that college students? The President just gave you permission to pirate all your textbooks.
But only if you say you're using them to train an AI
Settle down, nerds. TACO just read from the card they gave him. He doesn't think anything about AI. Of course, he'll make the wrong decisions and cause utter chaos and strife but it's not like he has an actual opinion about AI.
Also, he's talking about AI companies, i.e. the people who bribe him. How insolent of you plebes to assume you'd get the same rights.
What if president brainrot accidentally kills intellectual property, even glitched out cuckoo clocks are right occasionnally by chance!
"I need it for my business plan to work out" is not a great legal argument for when you're trying to override others rights.
So what you're telling me is it's still a legal argument.
I laughed so hard at this but then realized that dumb and dumber is less dumb than our current reality lol
Ah, but yet...
Trying to throw whatever that sticks so people would stop talking about your pedophelia
"You can't be expected to get a successful higher education when every article, book, or anything else that you've read or studied, you're supposed to pay for."
We shouldn't be calling these AI programs successful. In the slightest. They're counterfeiting human thought and work.
I know it's popular to hate on LLMs here at Lemmy, but what is "Artificial Intelligence" if not "Counterfeiting Thought"? Those words map to each other pretty nicely
Actually, let me add to my statement of it being intentional.
There are things that AI applications can do that humans can't.
AI is all about analyzing large sets of variables and finding things. Take recent studies in pathology where AI can find the patterns of certain disease in tissue specimens. This only works because the enormous dataset that was provided was already vetted by pathologists. I would argue this isn't counterfeiting human thought. This is enhancing an already utilized algorithm trained by doctors. Remember, a pathologist still needs to put their license on the line if they agree with the AI findings.
There is NO accountability in LLMs. To many people it looks like it is thinking, it has understood what the person has said, and considered boundaries that exist in our minds, but maybe not communicated to the LLM.
Thats why I call these AI programs unsuccessful and counterfeit. They're giving users made by possibly unverified and unreliable data with no accountability.
I mean, your point is accurate, but your point itself qualifies as "hate on LLMs".
It was intentional.
Sometime I wish lemmy had ahah react
I mean basically.
Can a human be expected to have a successful life when they have to pay for knowledge they need access to? I am not against the opinion that information should be free and freely accessible. But does this courtesy also extend to the common folk or is it exclusive to expensive machines and their owners? You wouldn’t download a United States government. da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na
Won’t someone think of these POOR AI companies!
Don't worry about the AI companies, they can afford it and then make a profit (eventually).
Worry about the open source AI models that you can run locally using solar panels. They will become defacto illegal piracy. Affordable hardware to run large models without too much power is finally appearing (Ryzen AI max), but the software will become proprietary intellectual property of those who own the world. Which is the worst case scenario.
Funny that when it was about protecting profits copyright was such a cornerstone principle but when it's about protecting profits it can also be set aside.
Shut up orange paedophile.
haha ur so brave
So Pro Piracy argument ... So no more patents or copyrights
I'll setup a JellAIfin server immediately. It's just the regular Jellyfin code, but I am compiling my own version - it has "AI" added as a comment to every line of code before I compiled.
Not for you, silly, only if you're too rich and big!
Big-league bigly its a big fucking club and we ain't in. It
There was an episode of behind the bastards I was listening to a while back where they mentioned some dude who was using an AI tool to scrape the internet to steal other people's art, so people started doing something that prevented him from optimally stealing their art.
I can't remember what exactly, but the guy started whining that whatever people were doing was "illegal" bc it was damaging his tool he was using to steal other people's shit for his own profit. Like somebody telling you that it's illegal to prevent them from efficiently stealing your property bc it interferes with their livelihood. How dare you!
Anyway, that's the kind of vibes I get from this.
Recently watched a quality Youtuber doing the same thing but with audio. 🤘
Lolz. Fuck you, fat dickhead.
You can't expect to have a successful education program when every article, book, or anything else that you've read or studied, you're supposed to pay for.
md
> law passes > buy servers > create piracy site > call it AIbay > have all kinds of things there under a synonymous name > when interrogated tell them you have a proprietary technology that you won't release to competitors
You can't be expected to - broadly understand the world and your place in it - when every article, book, or anything else that you've read or studied, you're supposed to pay for.
Eh, just make shit up. Works for the world elite
Time to ignore all the copyright and patents for my own nefarious purposes AI training
How am I supposed to train my neural network (my own brain) to be a filmmaker if I have to pay for each piece of media I train on (watch)?
"I am hosting a pirate bay instance AI" foolproof.
Not sure why the knee jerk hate on this one. I like the idea of opening up academic articles and other materials for free and open use.
It's the fact that it's not free and open use to us, just to the AI trainers. At least that's what the judges seem to be saying at this point.
That is not what judges have said. They've said that merely training on text is not a copyright infringement. However, companies that downloaded enormous amounts of pirated texts (i.e., stuff they did not have license to download in the first place) still infringed copyright just like anybody else. Effectively the courts have been holding that if you study material you have license to access, you aren't infringing, but if you pirate that material, even if it is merely to study it, it's still infringing. For better or worse this is basically basically how it's always been.
I have no idea what Trump is proposing. Like most republicans, but especially him, he is incapable of even approaching understanding of nuanced and technical areas of law and/or technology.
Because it's just for training AI, it will never trickle down to you.
Based brain rot pirate president, abolish intellectual property.
No he means only to who donated at least $1 mil to his inauguration
Regular people will still be fucked if they torrent a single ebook
In a statement given during a press conference in the Oval Office, the president's stance on the topic was clear:
"I'm a big reader, some say the biggest ever. And let me tell you - when you go into a bookstore, they have books costing like insane numbers, like 100.000 Dollars each minimum. Its an absolute disgrace. You have all these authors getting billions just for putting funny little characters on paper. The democrats... They jacked up the price so much, especially under Obama together with the crooked Clintons and sleepy Joe Biden, they were all in this room when it happened, they were all together. Its a shame. They did the same thing with eggs but I brought prices down like, immediately. Immediately. So fast everybody said "Wow" Because they never saw something like that and I will do the same for these books and newspapers. But all these writers and journalists, who are all producing propaganda for the radical left by the way, they are really terrible people - they're earning trillions... I was speaking to Mr. ChatGPT the other day and he said "They're ripping us off, Mr. President it's a totally broken market, they are killing us." And I agree, it's a disgrace. A total disgrace. That's why I'll bring prices down by not only 100 % or 200 %, but probably more like 1,000 % in the next two weeks. You'll never have seen lower prices for medication, let me tell you... And books too. So there will be big price cuts. Bigly."
/s
It took me a bit to realize this wasnt an actual quote from Trump
I would have never known better had I not gone to read the comments and see this…
Same.
You had me till Mr.ChatGPT 🤣
Don't spend one more dollar on educational material. If a person had to pay for every textbook and online subscription, education would be impractical.
Brb training an llm on the criterion collection. It's for educational purposes.
Then maybe AI "programs" aren't a good product. Next it will be, "we can't be expected to make a good murderbot without murdering some people"
Proceeds to start wars with every ethnicity to ensure the murder bots are trained to kill all variants of the population. "Of course they have to kill little people, how else will we know that a little person couldn't judo chop them to death."
It’s amazing he can talk at all with both the dick and balls of every Nerd Reich billionaire he can find wedged into his mouth.
Yeah... So all of these years of pirating movies, tv shows, and music was for a machine learning algorithm
Maybe it works as an excuse when you claim you just wanted to train your own AI model with all those pirated books and videos. But who am I kidding. The reality is that copyright violation, as well as quite a few other things, is only really a crime if you're poor. This current "endgame capitalism" era we're in is becoming extra-legal quite fast. Maybe we should start making interactive law books where you can view whether a particular law actually applies to your person or your company, or not. Just to keep up with the times.
Actually, I feel a bit dirty about this. Literal decades of file sharing built huge archives that they have used to build their monsters, and also contributing to things like Wikipedia and open source software. Everything good and counterculture we did is now being monetized and used to boil the oceans.
Information should be free. Don’t feel bad because someone abused something good towards a bad end.
The problem here isn’t archives, it’s “AI” and the people behind it.
"Piracy for me, not for thee."
Looks like it's Sam Altman's turn to ram his hand up there to make the puppet talk now. That is word for word what that tech douche nozzle says.
This is definitely what that is, but I take it this also means he's saying pirating is ok for people and not just tech corporations. Safe to assume? Bc otherwise it just seems like more entitled rich fucks making the rules for everyone else that they can ignore
Fuck this traitor. Trump is in the Epstein files
Epstein
Damn, I can't expect to enjoy my evening if I have to pay for media, therefore it should be free.
Art of the Steal
"you can't have a successful government when every time I want to be President or have sex with minors or anything else you have the right to do as a rich, white man, you have to hear people get all judgy"
That's right, I'm torrenting all this stuff for my AI program...
god he is the dumbest dumbfuck on the planet and that includes george w bush
W was just pretending to be dumb as President. If you go back and watch clips of him when he was governor of Texas, he was able to speak like a normally intelligent, educated person, in complete sentences and coherent thoughts and everything (regardless of how foul what he was saying actually was).
The orange child rapist is pretending to be as smart as W's President character.
BTW I'm an AI. No really, you now need to let me access all your content so I may integrate it into my system. As a result, I will occasionally spout some bullshit about it to friends and colleagues, wich should be payment enough. Exposure, right?!
Yeah, I had to spend a lot of money in University for those books to learn from. Why should humans pay and AI not?
So let's pretend we give them all the training data they want for free (which they already have taken illegally)
The buisness model is still non-viable because the energy costs far outweigh any subscriptions they can get. And the tech isn't even good enough for people to want to subscribe at the current prices.
I need to stop believing my own lying eyes.
He gets it when it comes to AI. In other words, he knows it is bad to charge for knowledge.
This is more socialist than most democrat leaders which he just said.
Knowledge is Power! Power over others! always has been.
Remember:
Copyright law as a whole will stay the same. In the court of law, you will need to prove that you indeed operate a very big AI company that indeed does AI things before they will let you off the hook for massive copyright infringement. You can't just use that excuse casually! Rules will be for thee, not the actual AI-companees.
The only important thing is to make rich people money. If it makes them money, nothing else matters. Unless it makes them money now as opposed to later. Making them money now is the most important thing.
It tracks, his entire career has been spent getting other people to pay for stuff for him
Fuck off, you orange paedo!
Sam Altman approves this message.
Hundred percent he got a script from a lobbyist to create this sound bite.
Sam Altman defending the ban on Republican state AI regulations in 2025:
Altman, during the hearing, said that Texas had been “unbelievable” in incentivizing major AI projects. “I think that would be a good thing for other states to study,” Altman said. He predicted that the Abilene site would be the “largest AI training facility in the world.” But Altman also later cautioned against a patchwork regulatory framework for AI.
“It is very difficult to imagine us figuring out how to comply with 50 different sets of regulations,” said Altman. “One federal framework that is light touch, that we can understand, and it lets us move with the speed that this moment calls for, seems important and fine.”
Aww, would it make it "difficult" for you to create your technocratic dystopia? 😭🎻
“A patchwork of regulation of technology is not beneficial for the country. We want to avoid that. Facial recognition has important roles—for example, finding lost or displaced children. There are use cases, but they need to be underpinned by values.”
Not beneficial for the country or the corporations? Always thinking about the children first, even back then. Please tell me more about how we're just too dumb to understand how all of this is for our own good.
Hopefully this helps create precedent to stop enforcing copyright for everyone
What a dumbass pedophile.
Holding companies responsible for the infringement of them using copyrighted materials without restitution to the creator is literally the only tool we have in ever changing current copyright laws, and we're watching it be waved away.
"you cant POSSIBLY expect us, to respect HUMAN RIGHTS if we want progress? i mean the survival of the human species (me and my friends) relies on cheap and free labour and the starvation, death, and exploitation of the masses. if we want to SURVIVE as a species (me and my friends) WE GOTTA EXPLOIT THE PEOPLE"