That is only true if you vote. Particularly in primaries. The MLs are apathetic to actually doing so; as such they are disregarded. They need to show up and vote a suitable third party. Or spoil their ballot so that they show up as a countable protest vote that would sway such districts.

Simple abstinence is not only getting out of the way for fascism; it is indistinguishable from apathy and the apolitical. I am not missing the point from Grammar or the MLs.

Part of my criticism of the MLs is also that they are just unwilling to put at least a minimum level of work here. It can help us get some policies that we may want. It also helps build credibility for higher level protests and strikes. If you can get people to show up to vote you can also get some of them to realistically show up for other civil disobedience. That is a credible movement. Voting in the west is rather easy and carries little personal risk; compared to protests and strikes. If you cannot get your organization to do that then its safe to assume they won't do much in other aspects of resistance; particularly those that carry personal harm.

4d ago

Geneva gets close to getting why abstinance is not the best course of action here.

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InternetCitizen2 @lemmy.world 4d ago

Which is why we need to go to primaries, or even better make our own third party in places were we don't have a green or similar.

4d ago

Privacy-Focused Proton Mail Aids FBI in Uncovering ‘Stop Cop City’ Protester’s True Identity

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InternetCitizen2 @lemmy.world 4d ago

I just kinda like thunderbird; tho its not that big of a deal breaker. Just at one point had quite a few emails and it was a helpful org tool. My Proton plan would be to consolidate a bit there anyway.

4d ago

Yeah lets bomb the people we are trying to join our side

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InternetCitizen2 @lemmy.world 4d ago

I don't think its a waste of time; tho I will say they are not the audience. Someone is hearing these things for the first time and needs to hear the alternative. Same reason one should counter comment on flat earthers and anti vaxx when possible. I don't expect the individual to change their mind, but they are a foil for the lurkers.

4d ago

Privacy-Focused Proton Mail Aids FBI in Uncovering ‘Stop Cop City’ Protester’s True Identity

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InternetCitizen2 @lemmy.world 4d ago

I kinda wanted the mail client. Idk I just kind of like the work flow that way. I udnerstand a bit of why its not that way, and its not a huge del breaker. I do see some stuff has made its way onto fdroid which is nice.

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4d ago

Geneva gets close to getting why abstinance is not the best course of action here.

4d ago

Privacy-Focused Proton Mail Aids FBI in Uncovering ‘Stop Cop City’ Protester’s True Identity

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InternetCitizen2 @lemmy.world 4d ago

Credit cards create permanent identity links that no encryption protocol can erase.

Here’s the brutal truth about “anonymous” email services: your payment method matters more than your password strength. Proton accepts cryptocurrency and cash precisely because credit cards eliminate anonymity from day one.

Every monthly subscription charge links your encrypted account to your real identity through financial records that governments access routinely. The Stop Cop City activist could have sent messages in unbreakable code, but their credit card told the whole story.

Yeah, I kind of expected it would be an opsec error. Still a big L for Proton. I have been hesitant to move due to them not being on Fdroid or having Linux support. One of the last major things for me to de-google. Tuta seems nice tho.

4d ago

Yeah lets bomb the people we are trying to join our side

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InternetCitizen2 @lemmy.world 4d ago

Bombing those you are trying to be on your side is not really a way to get them to join you. Germans and Koreans are still part of the proletariat after all. Tankies like to pretend that people are supporting the bombing of countries outside the west; which is not the case more than one thing can be bad. They just happen to be authoritarians and only agree with the cruelty when its their flag on the winning side.

They are right that dems are a right wing part overall, but it is where our most left leaning politics still live. We should try and grow that. Ideally we should found our own party that is truly left leaning, but that requires coalition building and voting. It does not matter if you can come up with goals that they will agree with 90%. They just won't actually show up to support it as their activism is largely online. They are very passionate until it requires action. It would help our movement to have some real coordination. Short term there are real policy changes that can slow down the harm from fascism. Simply abstaining is to surrender unconditionally.