I am once again asking...
I am once again asking...
Borrowed from lemmy.zip
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It's ok to be a lurker. Lurkers, I'm happy you're here with us.
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And we're here for you.
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Hey this user isn’t a lurker!! They’re a big fat phony!!!
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- Presses reply
- Types an insightful comment
- Looks at it. There’s something wrong with it. He just doesn’t know what.
- Erases it. Starts over.
- *Still doesn’t feel right *
- Hits cancel, discards the comment, and goes back to doom scrolling.
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I worry the same way, but mostly just when I'm commenting on something hurtful. Like if a commenter is being agonizingly wrong about something really important, spreading lies, you know the kind. I'll get worked up and start writing a comment, but realize that any point I make can be nitpicked and invalidated even if it's broadly correct. So I don't post those comments.
But when it's not in response to someone being inflammatory, I feel better about just doing my best with what I write. If someone has a correction, well that's a good thing! I'll acknowledge it and edit my comment to include the better info I'm given. I can hope that the people reading it don't see that I was wrong on one point and decide I'm completely wrong because I try to interact respectfully.
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writes three paragraph comment
edits comment for 10 minutes to make it as succinct as possible
realizes it has nothing to do with parent comment
deletes comment
Back on reddit, a good half of the comments I would have left got deleted as soon as I posted them. Lemmy has forced me to make sure I've said something relevant, because if I leave a comment and then delete it, everyone gets to know that I did that, and that makes me feel even worse than saying something slightly off topic
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I mean, if it is not related to a specific "parent comment", you could simply post it as a 1st rank comment to the post instead?
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I felt this in my bones.
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Same, but I cannot even get to the reply phase. Also I am bad at commenting/posting anything good.
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I figure that there are plenty of other people that can tell me what's wrong with my comment, so just post it and let others work for you for free.
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Frequent lurker here, I just have such a hard time getting my thoughts out into words that’s relevant to a conversation. Add in an irrational amount of aversion to negative feedback (real or perceived) and it just feels better to just keep scrolling.
One day I’ll get better at this, it’s not easy when my socializing experience has been dominated with negativity both online and offline.
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The thing is, I feel like many people just add whatever they think and want to say to a conversation no matter how relevant or irrelevant it is to the current situation. In the end, I feel like most people on here are civil enough to not be mean-spirited towards one another unless they're talking to bigots and stuff.
I struggle with this quite often too - especially when it comes to topics that can be quite divide and polarising - but I always feel good once I do step out of my comfort zone and post away. There's usually bound to be at least a couple people with whom your comment resonates with. Give it a try maybe - you'd be surprised how well it can go :)
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I feel you. I delete like half the comments I post and want to delete another half of what's left before I do, for the same sounding reasons.
I don't think people will be a dick to you on here, and if they are it won't be well received by anyone else.
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If it helps, people seem to be a lot more open to questions and discussion here than on sites like reddit. Its pretty refreshing.
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lurks lurkishly
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lurking intensifies
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Walking lurkishly down the stairs
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How decedent
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HELLO NOT LURKING WE JUST HAVE NOTHING USEFUL TO CONTRIBUTE THANKS
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I DON'T LIKE POSTING MUCH BECAUSE I AM TRASH
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You both should come join us in shitposting. One of us!
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HI INFORMATIVE AND INSIGHTFUL RESPONSE
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I'm an introvert, leave me alone.
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..... Nice.
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Countries with the first-past-the-post electoral system perform similarly to autocracies when it comes to healthcare performance.
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No
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2 year old account
2 posts, 4 comments
One quarter of this user's comment history is them explicitly declining to stop lurking lmao
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Honestly, that's kind of big dick energy
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Gotcha
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Now this, I like
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cute, gecko? lizard? what species?
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Clearly a Lurch (outdated German term for amphibians).
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Looks like a fire salamander to me. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_salamander
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Yeahhhhhhh, I struggle with that a bit because I feel like anything I have to say isn’t worth saying
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Honestly same, even this replay I hesitated before sending.
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You should upload more of your photography stuff!
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That is something I’d love to do! I just haven’t gone out in a while to take any pictures.
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Look at this useless comment here smh
/s ;-)
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my fears have come to fruition 😭😭😭
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Diagnosis: cat
Confidence: 80%
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Too late...
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Ladies and gentlemen... we got em.
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Counterpoint: By posting things that get downvoted, you still contributed and added to the discussion by exposing people to a viewpoint divergent from the ones they perceive normaly.
Or your contributions are just shit takes. That could be the case too. /s
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Or your contributions are just shit takes. That could be the case too. /s
This, but without a /s
Sometimes you're wrong, sometimes you're talking to assholes.
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It's okay, you do already much more than most of us working on Photon
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I absolutely understand that regarding political/news communities, I bet your experience is very different in entertainment/hobbies communities
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I just wanted to let you know there is an option in your settings so you don't see upvotes or downvotes.
Lemmy (AFAIK) doesn't even show you your total upvotes (karma... whatever it's called) by default either. None of these imaginary points fucking matter.
So why don't you do yourself a favor and uncheck these boxes and not give a fuck what others think about your comment.
I know I have.
(Lemmy is rad as fuck)
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Beehaw.org has disabled the down vote button/doesn't federate down votes. So you could try posting over there, it's pretty great
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profile karma doesnt matter here unless you use mbin or piefed, I think even then its only if you have an account there? (not sure about that one) Its not like reddit where more karma boosts posts/comments
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Goddamit squirrel I'm trying, ive got years of lurker conditioning to break.
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Hey I even upvote sometimes!
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Sorting by new helps, so you don't feel like you're too late to be heard if you comment. Making posts, now that's extra tough.
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Much better than screaming into the void of the same stupid jokes and bots on reddit though right?
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Indeedly doodly
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I actually don't feel that way even on older posts that have already taken off. That's really nice about lemmy.
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Lemmy really is a pretty great place
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Talking to people is scary. :(
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But Lurkers are great at defending from enemy infantry in StarCraft.
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I'm glad someone else thinks of the zerg when lurkers are discussed.
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Have a dramatically lit cat photo!
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Yea that's definitely me
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Rebel rebel rebel!
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No, I only come here when I poo.
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Can't you talk while pooing?
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Some people, even presidents, poo and talk at the same time! Every time they open their mouths!
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Sorry, I lurk. Sorry.
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Guess I'll come out of the shadows on this one
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Fine.
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it was like a watershed moment when i realized opossums are just dumb and adorable and not scary at all but i never met an evil one
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It's always the ones you least expect
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stupid viewpoint that everybody hates
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I'm doing my part, are you?
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I’m doing my part by flooding Lemmy with opossum and bat pics. Maybe an occasional raccoon if the mood is right.
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I have been getting more stoned in the past few days, in the hopes to provide more absolutely terrible jokes, however I went too far and binged a bunch of Mr. Rogers videos on YouTube with dabs.
Have you guys seen this man?! Someone this kind actually existed! Like man. Everyone needs to see Mr. Rogers stuff I think, it's like, proper positive and stuff.
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if everyone was as kind as that man, I think there would almost be no suffering in the world
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An excuse to post a link to this article
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Lemmy is far and away the most active I've ever been on social media, then I see a three month old account with 2K comments and suddenly feel like a lurker.
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Some of us comment and some of us post. You're a poster.
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Don't feel bad, anyone who has more than a couple thousand comments on this platform is just a loser with no life
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If you upvote and downvote in a genuine way, you’re improving the lemmy experience imo by lurking.
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Remember upvotes are for comments that foster discussion (you can upvote even if you don't agree with them). Downvotes are for comments that don't foster discussion, such as bad actors and distasteful garbage spouting shitposts. You can also block users if you recognize they don't add value to your Lemmy experience
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Ironic that this got a downvote despite genuinely further adding to the conversation and comment you replied to
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notices your jug of oil
UwU
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Im not! I furiously type my thoughts on every post I can to let my opinions be known to the community!
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Are my almost daily cat pictures not enough for you?!
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Subscribe
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Wow, I'll have you know I post a comment maybe once a month. Fine though, I'll be better and make my first post today.
Darn social media asking me to be responsible and contribute back. What do you think you are? Open source software?
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Doing my part :) used to be a pathological lurker and Lemmy made me regular commenter and poster :)
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good morning, people
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Making assumptions there, bud.
Locks eyes irritability
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I comment! Sometimes!
And then there was last night where someone called me "brain fucked" for (allegedly) not understanding what conservatism is. Ah, internet discourse.
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Are you brain fucked tho
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I mean. Maybe?
I've been wrong about stuff before. I'm sure I'm wrong about some stuff now.
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the hell am i supposed to do here, there's like- barely any posts in my subscribed tab, and the things i do reply on don't get interactions at all LMAO
might as well keep lurking if it's gonna be like that
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Build it and they will come
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Are you interested in finding more communities to subscribe to?
!communitypromo@lemmy.ca or !trendingcommunities@feddit.nl and similar resources help me personally to find ones I never knew about
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I subscribe to nothing and just view All instead. If that doesn't work for you then maybe your instance defederated with a bunch of instances or something.
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i mean, probably? i just picked a random-ass instance just because i didn't really care
maybe it's just the fact that i like really niche stuff instead of big things
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I have nothing to contribute.
Niche communities are still absent, so most of the time Lemmy is just political discussions and Linux memes.
Not interested in any of those
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Yeah, I wish there was a more concerted effort to move more communities.
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Lurky is the adjective form of lurking, i like saying lurky it tickels my mouth wires. So ill continue being lurky.
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Bla bla bla Linux bla bla bla
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Bla bla Arch bla the way, bla bla bla... Bla bla bla bla!
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Don't forget the new socks that apparently come with it
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Bla bla bla Hyprland is a dyanamic tiling window manager that doesn't sacrifice on the looks blah blah.
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Lemmy is so much better for actual commenting and discussion. It’s like our threads range from a small room full of people to an auditorium full, while that other place most of us left was like a professional sports stadium full of people who all have a bullhorn and one rich weasel with camera who gets to decide who is on the Jumbotron.
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lurk lurk lurk hehehehehe try to stop me b
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ahoy matey
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How do people think of stuff to post?
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You do a ritual to appease the Blood Gods, and beg to gain a fraction of their creativity for a moment in time.
Or you post about beans and potash.
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I do as I please
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Personal welcome to anyone this post encouraged to sign up. I appreciate you.
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dont tell me what to do. you are not my real father!
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But saying anything on the internet is too scary... :(
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So brave of you to say what we all only dare to think
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Ok, I won’t lurk. I’ll post some comment.
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I posted because of this post
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ok i know i said i would last time but i promise i will this time
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What's the line being worshipped in the octagon?
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all of the communities i follow are deathly silent, kinda hard to contribute when you have nothing worthwhile to post and nothing you can comment on
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Yeah many communities I’m interested in have so little users and even less people who post/comment. Some are inactive for days
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I’m so much better at commenting than posting. I have nothing interesting to post!
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Same, but commenting is also a good way to contribute. Oh, uh, hi! o/ /lurks
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Nah you all can have some lurk as a little treat. You deserve it!
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Screaming into the void can be therapeutic.
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But .. but what if someone downvotes me?
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Nothing makes me feel more powerful than getting downvoted and not caring while having a bunch of people who clearly care a lot about votes tell me I should care about downvotes.
Go ahead and downvote me, it literally doesn’t matter.
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You said that so I'd upvote you, you jerk!
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I used to care about downvotes, until I realized that I'm always right, and the only reason someone would disagree with me is if they're wrong.
Learning that the average American has a 6th grade reading comprehension has caused me a great amount of stress worrying about the future of my nation, and brought me a great amount of peace knowing that anyone who disagrees with me is simply too bad at reading to understand what I'm saying
And even if I was wrong about something, I can simply assume that the people downvoting me are pedophiles, and I don't care what a bunch of pedophiles think of me
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It's really hard for me to not downvote this.
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I want to upvote it so more people see it and can downvote it.
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OK!
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I comment a good bit but rarely post
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Doing my best not to lurk
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I guess, if you say so.
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It's hard to engage with other posts when most of them are about Linux or American politics. Two things I don't really want to spent a lot of time engaging with.
Besides that it's mostly old memes which isn't worth commenting on.
Other niche communities I'm interested in are not that active. Even though I've posted in them Tue lack of engagement isn't a motivator.
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Does actively commenting but never posting count as lurking?
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No
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I also want this answer. I’m trying to find things to post but commenting comes more naturally!
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okay fine
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yes, hello, 1, 2, 3
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I want to. But I must say its a bit difficult. Almost all lemmy instances are a specific echo chamber of opinions, thoughts and political views. The moment I say even the smallest thing out of the “norm” im banned.
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Same. I came to Lemmy because Reddit sucks, I'm looking for memes, cat videos, humorous and/or thought provoking content.
Instead my all feed is filled with an echo chamber of political content. Not gonna lie, Lemmy is forum that takes itself away too seriously, I don't interact because I don't want to argue politics with strangers online, and I know any differing options get down voted to hell.
I really wish Lemmy had a little more fun engaging, apolitical content. If it did, I'd be all over it.
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I know you've probably heard this already, but it really makes a difference:
Curate your feed. My subscribed-feed is all I look at, I have an insanely long community subscription list but it feels truly active and basically no politics (thanks to voyager app's keyword filter and lemmy's community blocking feature).
Also a cool tip: look at profile of users to find interesting / cool communities.
Or, spend your time with us over at !sillydrawingrequests@sopuli.xyz :)
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Feel free to document those on !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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I'm doing my part!
<starship troopers meme/>
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You can't tell me what to do! I was told that I do not need to do what other people say I need to do! Which I guess means that I do need to do what other people say that I need to do! But then that means that I do not need to do what other people say I need to do! Do do people need I do need people tell do me need!
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i comment a lot and its a 50/50 on if people hate the comment or think Im normal
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Sure when you ask like this, how could we resist?
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I'm doing my part!
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okayyyyyy...........
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Bla bla bla bla bla bla bla.
No seriously, it's actually fun to comment on random things. Often the next day when I wake up I have a bunch of fun responses in my inbox.
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Just deleted my reddit account.
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Some of us have nothing useful to contribute to society. Please don't shame us.
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I'm a loomer not a lurker.
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Ok really dumb question (this was an issue for me with Reddit during the before time as well): I seem to only notice threads that have existed for a while, so I normally see something similar to what I would have said already posted as a comment. Should I be using Lemmy differently, to see younger threads?
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Lemmy on its web interface has a sorting option called scaled sorting. Which allows to bring up rising threads that are a few hours old.
Note: not all mobile apps have integrated scaled sorting. So you need to do some investigation.
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You get more engagement on Lemmy than on Reddit, even if you don't comment in the first 3h. Probably due to sorting, probably due to lower numbers, but even the silliest comment will get at least a few reactions.
You can really tell it's made by socialists who hate accumulation and want to give everyone a chance.
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…and reading further in the comments says sort by new, but I’m already doing that lol
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I feel like I already post too much lol. But that might be an artifact from my autism which always makes me feel like I'm not good enough or have nothing worthwile to contribute.
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Same here, except from Anxiety. Maybe this is just being human?
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I just found out how to comment.
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Fine.
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Peeks from under my rock
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Reporting for duty 🫡
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I’m making sure I’m doing my part by posting every dumb thought I have in the comments.
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No
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I'm try 😞
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ok
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Thanks! 🙏 How is your weekend?
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Sorry
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Same, whoops lol
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I'm doing my part by posting reaction images every day.
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I use mint btw
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I don't have a unique opinion to post if the thread isn't early enough. And the communities that I can provide expert opinions are basically deserted.
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Ok!
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This is the way
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<starshiptroopers> I'm doing my part! </starshiptroopers> -
I'll do better!
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Hi :)
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I lurke, I smirk, I work, but not twerk, does that make me a jerk?
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It’s one perk.
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Yes sir
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fine uhh heres something idk
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Jello
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its hard when i get most of my content here.
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I'm a poster on Mbin, it'll have to do.
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I am here, my friend 🙋♂️
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Am not super chatty. Having said that, hello.
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Yeah, that’s not very typical. I’d like to make that point.
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i ask, what is a lurker?
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Someone who reads, but does not post or comment. Someone who's here, but doesn't really participate.
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Its ok not to participate though. Better be here than reddit.
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I'm doing my part!
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Don't tell me what to do old man
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Well, I know this comment isn't much, but I have to start somewhere, and at least now I cannot be accused of being a lurker!
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What's so bad about being a lurker?
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It doesn't really generate activity. Basically any platform would prefer to have more comments to generate activity, which in some cases moves content across various algorithms, but also makes the platform look well active and involved. Having an active looking platform can make others want to sign up and join. I'm sure there's potentially other reasons.
That said, I think it's fine to lurk and should be promoted more. Sometimes it's better to spend time focusing on articulating your thoughts and writing your posts than it is just writing more posts overall, and sometimes there isn't much to add to a topic.
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Sorry <3
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You aren't my dad.
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SON/DAUGHTER!?
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Are you lurking, son?
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Hey Bernie 👋🏽
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alright
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Lurk on Deez nuts 🥜🌰
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Fine you win this round
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Not sure what to post or comment.
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Better a lurker than a shitposter
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This post might get ratio'd
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kk
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I've been busy!
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Make me
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hi
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Ok
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I'll do it for you, Bernie.
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Sometime I try to post, but it doesn't let me, why is that?
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Posts or comments or both?
What app/client are you using?
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But why?
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Well then post more things to get mad at geeze. Do you even know how engagement works?
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omelette du fromage
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no because my opinions are not valued anywhere i go. I will be a lurker on the internet until the majority of humanity chooses kindness, open mindedness, empathy. I doubt i will see that happen. Honestly the internet was a mistake.
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What could have been
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Why? Is Lemmy engagement decreasing or something?
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All I did was not open this for a few days and now this?
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OH MY GOSH I’m so sorry let me correct myself
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No
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Are you sure about that?
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Fuck off, cunt-ass engagement farmer.
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Tough, AI is just such superior company than humans
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But it is what I do!
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When I do I get banned
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I used to contribute, but I've mostly stopped even visiting Lemmy because of all the propaganda from places like Lemmy.ml. Totally killed my excitement for it.
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0.0 What are you talking about? I don't see that, and I consider myself pretty active...
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This is why blocking instances and defederation
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Propaganda?
I've not seen anything like that since I've been here. What do they push?
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Too bad that when you are strong worded against a particular set of netizens, your comments get deleted by the moderator teams or whatever it is called here on Lemmy.
Reddit and Lemmy, two peas in a pod.
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I'm sure I won't find anything out of place in the modlog then?
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Go ahead.
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Call them out on !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Modlogs are public for a reason
Edit: also, your own moderation history isn't the best looking: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/modlog?userId=3895205
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It really depends on the instance. For example, I am to the point of blocking politics on .world because they take a "both sides are the same" approach to moderation.
Most of my deleted comments and bans come from there.
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!politics@sh.itjust.works can be an alternative
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This is the post that got me banned from ten forward. A year earlier I warned another person to not argue with the mod because they will ban you. I made the mistake of not looking at the username before replying.
Lemmy is actually worse than Reddit.
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I wouldn't say Lemmy is worse than Reddit. Just different. I've never had a Lemmy mod tell me to write a three paragraph essay about my feelings on the patriarchy to get unbanned, because I made one comment in /r/conservative pointing out that Trump got vaccinated
Shout-out to the WitchesVsPatriarchy mod team, y'all are clowns lmao
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But I like being a lurker 😟
Too late, lurkers don't comment!
You can't tell me what to do!
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!
I still remember this epic comment from @cm0002@lemmy.world. It's funny because cm0002 is like one of the most active posters I see around.
Why do I too remember that post and the comment, huh, I might be spending a lot of time here
They really upped their game!
I don't think making feud posts is contributing.