Retweeting

There're still older Civilizations I haven't played so I'm not worried

In another screenshot I once read "my retirement plan is to die in the socialist revolution" and I think that's exactly what I hope for
- That's been my plan for years, but now it's morphed into something more like, "my retirement plan is to die in the American underground fighting the local Nazis."

I'm 55, and this is my retirement plan.

I plan to die fighting for the revolution.

I wouldn't say it's my plan, but it's an option I'm keeping in account

65? 65?!? My expected retirement age is 7-goddamn-2 and considering that's in the 2050s shit could happen to that plan in the meantime....

Mine is more “I don’t plan to live that long anyway”

Have fatal illness. 2 or so years left. Suckers!
- I admire that you've got a sense of humour about it. How are you holding up?
  
  the drugs are still sort of working.
- If so 2 years later would you like to not miss a fascist dictator?

Civilization is resilient
It wont end just because of a couple problems that could kill billions of people
- Honestly, true.
  We are indeed going to face massive, catastrophic changes to society broadly.
  But they will take place over such timespans that most people are just going to get used to things being shitty and the death-tolls from storms, flooding, starvation, forced-migration... it will just be more dull noise in the background for decades and decades.
  The "nothing ever happens" shitheads are in the middle of things happening, but our attention-spans have been so thoroughly eroded that people don't think anything is real unless it literally shakes them out of their bed.
  
  People also have this idea that collapse is this overnight thing, like a zombie apocalypse. But while that does sometimes happen historically, a gradual degradation is much more common and realistic. What that actually looks like on the ground is just a general decline in the standard of living all around. In an advanced capitalist economy, we rarely have actual shortages, where the supply of goods simply runs out. Rather, whenever the supply of anything gets tight, the price soars until demand drops.
  As things degrade, everything's just going to become ever more expensive. People used to eating beef will have to switch to chicken. Then they'll switch to tofu. Eventually just rice and beans. And as prices rise, the world's poorest, a few million at a time, will find that they can't even afford rice and beans, and no one will be able to afford to give them food aid either.
  Housing will gradually become ever-more expensive. We have a finite capacity to construct housing. And as natural disasters destroy more and more homes and infrastructure, we have to spend more and more of that finite capacity just rebuilding what we've lost, rather than constructing new homes. This drives the cost up ever-higher. People switch from owning their home, to renting an apartment, to living with roommates, to abandoning the nuclear family entirely and living in large extended households again.
  This is what collapse actually looks like. Prices on everything slowly rise until we look around and realize that the global population has been cut in half by starvation and all but the riches survivors are living in penury.
  
  I had a conversation with an older dude this May. It was +30°C in Germany and Germany doesn't really do air conditioning. The older dude, while sweating bullets, was telling me that we don't need to do air conditioning because we rarely have high temperatures.
  It was +30°C in May. It was +30°C in May for the last 10 years. I think that dude will die of heatsroke, and till his very end he will believe that nothing ever happens and things are exactly the same as they were when he was a child.
  
  We are indeed going to face massive, catastrophic changes [...]
  And they say "nothing ever changes" smh

Mine is more 'why bother when inflation will eat the value away'
- Have you heard of the stock market? /jk
  
  Why JK though? There are many financial options to at least get more returns than inflation, working for people without fuck you money too. It takes some financial education that we likely have to learn ourselves, but there are options. And it's possible to reasonably lower risks and costs enough by selecting the right financial products.
  Though obviously, if you just buy what the bank guy says, the bank will make the profits, not you.
- So then just save money that doesn't inflate

Got plenty in my retirement pot, but I've been saving up bottle caps just in case.
- So it's people like you who's caps we'll mysteriously find inside of a pre-war safe??
  
  I was in whatsinthis when it started. I still have a shitpost up there that I’ve got an update for but never posted.

Narrator: It didn't.
The retweeters went on to live in an even more dystopian future where money still exists, but with no savings to endure a strike.

Mods Love fascism
- Someone else just as bad would replace him. It's supported by public sentiment, he was voted in.
  
  I don't think you'll find anyone with Trump's "charisma" that quickly who would appeal to the MAGA crowd in the same way. Of course, I could be wrong about that.
  
  It would create a power vacuum, and the traditional constitutional democratic norms and processes have already been destroyed.
  So it would be a literal bloodbath.
  And it probably would not end well for America.
- It needs Just 1 bullet in trumps head… FCK America.
  I mean, sure, that would be nice.
  But the idea that Fascism is just one man using mind control powers on the rest of the country and if you get rid of that singular embodiment of evil the rest of the fascists will disappear in a puff of logic is... flawed.
  If Trump had eaten a bullet in 2024, JD Vance would be President right now and nothing would be meaningfully different. The rot is systemic. It isn't even contained to the GOP. Go check out "Welcomefest" and the continued Liberalist campaign to transform the Democratic Party into a rebranded Dick Cheney style of neoconservatism by courting Silicon Valley goons who are on the fence about Trump.
  This doesn't end with one guy going away. This doesn't end with 100 guys going away. This ends when the top tier of mega-wealthy families no longer have an incentive to kill millions of people in order to maintain their elite positions.
  
  I always forget to mention it, my mistake. Fascism is already established... the bullet in the head thing should have happened before he dismantled democracy. So preferably 2020 or directly 2016.
- the next time you think getting rid of Trump will solve society's problems, just remember that Trump Jr will most likely run for president at some point in your lifetime
  
  Find a friend to shot him too?
  
  Fck

My retirement plan is similar but it's more that Climate Crisis is going to cook us all alive before I need to retire.

I'm putting my trust in my bottle cap collection.

The best advice I heard in my 20s don't spend your raise. If you can live of X and now you make Y, still live of X and put everything you don't spend in a few ETFs. Don't try to be smart en beat the market, don't buy stocks, etc.
Just 3 or 4 ETFs that cover the world. Or if you want to be smart read up on the permanent portfolio or all weather portfolio.
You don't need a more expensive car if your current car still works, you don't need a new phone every 2 years, etc. Buy what can't be fixed, don't pay for upgrades that are not really going to improve your life.
Also buy things that don't expire (toiletpaper, dishwasher soap, etc) in bulk when the offer it really good.
You don't have to live as a bum but you can still make sure you don't overspend.
- Best advice I've encountered in a while.

I've been hoping for that big EMP from the sun I keep getting told about.
- Or the poles swapping.
  
  With Germans?

I just want to live long enough to fuck an alien
- I just want to live long enough for the anti-aging vaccine to be invented.
  BRB, off to go wish for more wishes...

My retirement plan is to suicide bomb some government structure.

Money can always be made worthless, so the key to post depression bubble economics will be commodities and the ability to earn an income.

Societal collapse or probable future health issues, either way (or both)

well.. certainly not in so many words. but I definitely don't expect to get that old.
I'll look pretty dumb if it should happen.
- If you're right, you won't know it, but if you're wrong..

The true hope is a horizontal power structure.

When we met with a financial advisor to interview her to find out if we wanted to work with her, I told her that I'm doing this because I know it's the right thing to do, not because I think we have any future.

One of my saving graces with being born into a time where retirement seems to become a myth for my generation and younger, is that I really like working. I look to my mom who has failed at retiring 6 or 7 times at this point and I just know that that will be me if I live that long. I dunno if I could ever sit back and be like "I have done my part, now I get to chill until I die".
I would honest to God become suicidally depressed, and holy hell am I glad my brain is wired like that because feeling the opposite way in this current state of the western world must be a nightmare. If you hate your job and hate working and just want to be able to retire someday but you most likely never will due to the state of the world, I feel so fucking sorry for you. That sucks.
- My father was a workaholic. My brother and I were both worried he'd become depressed when he retired. Nope. He created all kinds of work for himself by starting a million projects. He said he never had enough time for all that he wanted to do. It was a great relief.
  
  I'm glad to hear that for your father! ❤️ my dad has also been a little project-machine gun since he retired. He is always doing something, which is awesome to see.
  Personally, I know that if I was given all the time in the world like that, I would wither and feel completely hopeless. I don't have a drive to start things if it is only for myself. For me, working is a relief because I'm needed by others and I feel a purpose.

Hopefully I'll be dead by 65
- Want assistance? I haven't got much experience with people, but I do have slaughtered a bunch of poultry, I have my own axe and I'm quite keen to help

that just sounds like bad financial discipline with extra steps

Wasn't this the boomer retirement plan? Societal collapse takes a lot longer than one would think.

So your saying your well on your way then..

It's a legitimate conundrum, do I invest for comfortable retirement or comfortable middle age
- The best approach is probly both - enjoy some now but still put something away, just don't go all-in on either extreme.
- If you have a solid retirement plan and you are in a position where you can still save extra money, go for multiple retirements (sabbatical).

Once we switch over to bottle caps as currency, I'll be both instantly rich and utterly distraught at the potential wealth I squandered over the years.

And I'm already 50...

- The things that never happen are happening right now but our collective attention spans have been dulled to the point that you can't recognize the actual swing of history as it's unfolding. Everyone just gets used to incremental changes to life so that it feels like nothing changes, because time isn't real and your memory is malleable.
  
  Yeah where is ww3?
  Where is Iran's big play?
  Y'all still waiting for the supposed revolution m

I had a free ticket out of here and I fucked it up by getting an organ transplant FML

Money is already meaningless. Worthless is the correct word.

In all honesty, my retirement plan is to go out with a bang in an act of left-wing extremist terror. We have seen way too little left-wing extremist terror in the past few years.

I’ve already staked out the place im gonna turn into a post apocalyptic fort. I know where the tastiest rich people live nearby.

Man, a lot of you are going to be absolutely fucked if we somehow don't have societal collapse.
No wonder so many people keep pushing accelerationist rhetoric.
- The average lifespan in the US has fallen 3 years in a row and is the same as the part of the UK with the worst average lifespan. With the destruction of the CDC and the removal of food safety inspections they keep attempting, I don't think many of us will have to worry about it.
  Besides, Berretas are cheap.
  
  Sure, you can try one on yourself first