Swing state voters promised $100 by Musk say they weren’t paid what they were promised
Elon Musk is being sued for allegedly not paying swing state voters the $100 he promised them to sign a petition
Who wants to tell them?
I volunteer as tribute!
HEY CHUMPS! Y'ALL GOT PLAYED BY A CONMAN! MUSK AND TRUMP DON'T GIVE TWO SHITS ABOUT ANY OF YOU! MAYBE THINK ABOUT THAT FOR ANY FUTURE ELECTIONS, HUH?
RICH PEOPLE ARE NOT GENEROUS. IF THEY WERE GENEROUS THEY WOULDN'T BE RICH PEOPLE. THEY ARE THE OPPOSITE OF GENEROUS.
Isn't it illegal to pay for voting and to be paid? Or, is it just illegal to pay for votes?
Not if you're among the ultra-rich. Supreme Court has decided that rules are for the poors.
I know the former is, but not sure if the recipient is on the hook or not.
Not if you also pay all the people who would enforce that law
My understanding is that it potentially isn't illegal, because you weren't being paid to vote explicitly, and weren't being paid to vote for a specific candidate for sure, but you were (supposed to be) paid to sign an agreement that you would vote, and I think it also said you support a certain candidate but I'm not totally sure on that.
Basically, he was paying for people to say they'd vote (maybe for a certain candidate) but legally that wasn't actually required, so possibly barely skirts the law if a judge is being very generous to him.
I know right? Whatever would have given them the idea that he has ever done anything he's promised? All the failed promises with Tesla? The boring company?
@admiralpatrick@lemmy.world The spam ban on the OP of this post seems heavyhanded (at least from the outside). Can you review or offer additional context?
E: this seems to (maybe) be the reason for anyone else wondering https://lemmy.world/post/29949200/17158534
I can DM the mod who issued it.
Additional context: https://lemmy.world/comment/17158534
TL;DR is the account has a history of leaving spam-like posts in its wake. Instead of deleting posts, they edit the title and URL to gibberish and leave them up. The comment I linked above is me asking OP to not do that (at least in this community), so they have been warned. Looks like they left two more gibberish posts early this morning which is likely what triggered the other mod to issue the community ban.
Per the comment I linked, I'm assuming that is why OP has been banned from so many other communities.
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Edit: Typo
100 dollars? yall sold the usa for 100 dollars?
It’s one democracy, Michael, what could it cost? 100 dollars?
If you don't pay it's actually 0 dollars!
And didn't even get the money up front.
yall sold the usa for 100 dollars?
Consider that Trump had something like a 47% approval rating on the day of the election.
Also, yes. People are broke af, hate their neighborhood, hate their country, and hate everyone who has governed it since JFK. If someone offered you $100 for a pile of shit, you'd take the deal, too.
The joke of it all is that they believed a career con-artist would pay out, not that they gleefully pawned the broke down jalopy of a nation-state at the first opportunity.
Do not think for a second that they won't try to do it again.
To be fair, I'd hate my life, too, if I lived next to a bunch of MAGA morons.
Buddy. That is like 5 BJs.
Paying people to vote a certain way should be one of the worst crimes in a democracy punishable by the harshest of punishments
In Murica..?!
It usually is. In a democracy anyway
Musk meant $100 credit, towards the purchase of a cybertruck. 🫤
Or a brand new, top of the line toy Yoda!
Maybe it was supposed to be 100 doll hairs... common mistake.
The guy whose companies don't pay debts didn't pay debts? Who could have seen this coming?!
Edit: changed from singular to plural.
The guy's not a Lannister. I mean, he probably would fuck his sister, but still...
*daughter
Screwed over by the world's richest man?
Yeah, well so was the rest of the nation...
No. Fucking. Shit.
No one has ever become a billionaire by paying people what they’re owed
When one of the two biggest black holes for cash on the entire planet promise to make things better for you if you just do this thing they want to happen, you shouldn't be surprised if at the end of the process you have less money and they have more money. Elon Musk is expert at making money move from you to him. So is Jeff Besos. It doesn't have to be direct from you to them via a payment, just know that they are sucking up the money, and if you ever, ever, ever do something they want you to do, you can be 100% sure it's because after they're done, you have less money and they have more.
It only makes sense that you could buy a presidency in an uber capitalistic country.
Who could have seen this coming???
Honestly at this point the judge should rule against them for being idiots
"The court finds you contemptible."
That crowd loves grifters and con-men. That Trump crowd acts like peasants just to get close to the proximity of wealth.
@dwazou can't get prosecuted for buying votes if you never pay
[insert smirks and taps forehead meme]
Then it's fraud.
But also, conspiracy to commit.
An act doesn't have to be committed for it to be a crime.
It goes to show how dumb people are
All you have to do is wave some money around in their face and make promises to them
.... and they'll do whatever you ask them to do .... then when all is said and done, you can just walk away and never give anyone anything.
Maurice: 'To my right, heh, to everyone's right in fact, we have congressman Alex Shrub; the youngest state congressman to ever be elected by Vice City and now a respected man in the capital. Mr. Shrub got elected because he has great hair and says things that make you nod your head. His campaign appealed to the wealthy because he set all of us at ease by confirming, "It's okay to be rich, as long as you say you care about the children." Mr. Shrub, welcome!'
Alex: 'That's not entirely true, Maurice. My campaign also appealed to the poor... who were too stupid to understand what I'm saying, so I held up pretty pictures and then I gave out candy bars to appeal to their most base insticts.'
💰 This could be yours!
I believe you owe me some money
No, I checked. Turns out it was mine, not yours.
Then they'll fall for it again in a couple of years 😭
They would if there were elections again.
But they'll probably just make the enemies list to be silenced sooner than the rest of us.
Sometimes, news is surprising.
This is not one of those times.
Elon Musk: "hahaha, suckers"
He can pay them back in burning cybertrucks.
Putting aside the fact that musk is an asshole, the value of $100 to him is probably less than what 1 cent is worth to most other people, and I can imagine that if most people owed someone 1c, they would probably never get around to paying it.
It's a different world for the ultra rich, and even more so for the ultra ultra ultra ultra richest.
That's because you don't have a billionaire's brain. They're somewhere between "I don't give a damn about these people" and "LOL! Look how I stiffed these losers!"
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So the only question really is whether it's more the case that he's not paying because there's a chance that he could be prosecuted for buying votes or if he's not paying just because he's a lying sack of shit who doesn't keep promises.
Or both.
I'm thinking both.
Wouldn't offering payment and not paying it also be criminal in someway?
IANAL, but I don't think so, unless they managed to make a charge of fraud stick, which would require proving that he never had any intention of paying them.
Without something like that, his failure to pay up is a civil matter rather than a criminal one.
I am not surprised at all
Elon really hoping that he can skate by without legal consequences as long as he just pretends he didn't actually bribe voters.
Think about it though, he didn't pay them. He can easily spin a story about how he was 'caught up in the moment' and made an offer without thinking, that he was later advised would be illegal.
Idk, I feel like I've seen crazier legal turnarounds in my lifetime. Imagine he references the purchase of Twitter as a pattern of behavior making offers that he isn't actually prepared to fulfill?
GTFOutta here! Seriously!? I am shocked.
SHOCKED!
Sold your country to a guy Tesla wants to pay 58b a year to so he can tank it for $100 and he doesn’t pay.
Cool.
Living by the Christian values of “promise” 😂😂😂
They sold their votes to a con man and are surprised they didn't get paid?
Really?
Because of course he wouldn't pay up. The man could literally afford to take more money than any one person could ever spend in their life, put it in a pile and set it on fire, and not be any more than a fraction of a percent poorer, but he's still such an unfathomably awful cunt that he just has to stiff people anyway.
No shit.
Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.
Surprise?
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To all the comments and replies asking Isn't this or that aspect of what he did illegal?: Yes of course, for us it would be illegal, but it doesn't matter. For oligarchs the legality of anything they do is irrelevant. They do whatever they want and get away with it. Sometimes it costs them a small fee, but they don't notice that.
I hope Musk accuses them in court of entrapment. I wanna see the rich moron try to outsmart the poor morons. Everyone will lose, but it'll being some levity to our death-knell.
It’s never gonna see a court room, unfortunately
"The leopards would never eat my face!"
He can't afford it
Oh no! Elon lied? No one expected this, how is this possible? He's such a reliable and honest man. /s
You deserve not being paid when you have your vote bought by a nazi scam artist for just $100. But you also shouldn't deserve the right to vote when it can be bought, especially for just 100 bucks.
This is hardly the first presidency that was bought.