Someone made a nonviolent luigi post and it was deleted.. wonder why?

The monopoly men have worked very hard over the past one hundred years to stamp out class consciousness in the US. They won’t give in without a fight.

Bootlickers is the battle ground

If owners control them, they win

If they gain class solidarity, owners lose
- "But if I lick boot hard enough maybe one day I'll get to be an owner and control them!"

The moment Robber Barons were first stopped, they starting working to rig things so they are never stopped again.

The only way to remind them that they have no such power is the French way.

All Tesla dealerships should be on fire by now. Now protected by a wall of obese 'police' that would not pass the most lenient tests to join the police force in any country of the EU.

All Tesla dealerships should be on fire by now.

Now now. Let's be pragmatic. Why destroy their wealth when we can just redistribute it?

Take their wealth and give it to those in need. If they resist, put them down like dogs. (sorry dogs)

I was shadow banned from Reddit for making a not violent Luigi post on 12/23/24. My account was older and had high karma. I am grateful to have found this community. The state of human rights in the United States is bleak. I watched my mom die from early onset Alzheimer’s in our broken system and I don’t even have words for the cruelty in our system. How can corporations be “people” if there’s no way to hold them accountable for mass murder? Our system is broken and corrupt from top to bottom and somehow it’s about to get much worse. Luigi gave those of us who are broken and tired a fleeting moment of hope.

My mom passed earlier this year from pneumonia. The insurance wouldn't let her stay until it was gone. So we had to keep taking her out of the hospital for a couple days, and then putting her back for the same pneumonia, it lasted for months, because the hospital couldn't fully treat it. She had to wait at home until she was able to go again, and it eventually took her. The pneumonia, stress and everything else was just too much for her heart. She ended up going into cardiac arrest multiple times and the pneumonia sepsis is listed as her official cause of death.

Luigi is a fucking American hero and I wish more people could be like him. I unfortunately have to take care of these kids so I cannot but I will pray for whoever picks up that mantle.
- I'm sorry for your loss. They murdered your mother for profit and it enrages me. I've personally suffered at the bloody hands of the insurance companies as well. The insurance companies fill me with a cold deep rage. I hope all their leaders know fear before they come to their end.
  
  I have kids as well. I'm no longer religious but I believe in Saint Luigi and pray that others are inspired by his noble actions. Truly.
  
  If you're willing, please share the name of the insurance company and the CEO that murdered your mother for money.
- Deleted. Weird edit duplicate.
I've had two accounts on Reddit, one got permabanned a few months ago, and I deleted the other a few days ago. The first one was my oldest account. Over a decade old, and massive karma. I also had my own sub where I shared my writing, and had a few thousand subscribers.

Back when that incel neo-Nazi Nick Fuentes got doxxed on Twitter, I made a joke saying "as an incel, he should be glad that women know where he lives now in case they want to share a cocktail with him", with a gif of a Molotov cocktail. Permabanned for "promoting/glorifying violence". I thought it was funny, but fine. That one is on me.

My other account, which was seven years old and had high karma, got banned from probably half a dozen subs in the past week or so for just mentioning Luigi, or even just up voting posts and comments mentioning him. That was when I decided Reddit was no longer for me.

It's one thing to ban someone for the kind of joke I made. While it was obviously a joke, it was still an overt glorification of violence. So I get that. But just for up voting a comment mentioning Luigi's name in a nonviolent context?

FUCK. THAT.
- Totally with you. Tracking accounts and what they upvote and downvote and then banning specific accounts is pretty well fucked. All-the-while allowing and even enabling bots to flourish..... Reddit is a mostly liberal flavored Facebook now. Total trash at this point. Nearly every sub just a bot filled echo chamber inside a library of echo chambers. Almost zero critical thinking. Obvious lies everywhere that are amplified until they become accepted as truth. Just like X/FB/IG/etc.
  
  On a positive side the general public opinion on Reddit is mostly encouraging. It still has that going for it. But power corrupts. And Reddit is a publicly traded company now. Beholden to it's shareholders and investors. Hopefully Lemmy grows and fills that void now that Reddit has decided to side with the wealthy elite by censoring our voices. Now that Reddit is literally owned by these wealthy elite (just like all the rest) they cannot be trusted anymore.
- But misogynistic trolls are perfectly fine posting 'your body, my choice' etc? It's all hypocrisy.
Luigi gave those of us who are broken and tired a fleeting moment of hope.

ahem The Adjuster gave us all that, Luigi was hanging with me all week
i was banned before the anti-luigi initiative by reddit, it seems like they are coming up with new excuses to ban more and more people. so that only a small amount of users are left.
- I think it's targeted. They want to ban free thinkers and when new users come in, they will see a more facist base. Bet Reddit's CEO got a fat check to make these changes. I got perm banned, then 3 day ban, after the first day it just went to perm again. Total IP ban.
  
  Fuck Reddit and it's bullshit. Lemmy is the new home.
- reddit never had a problem with any of the right-wing subs calling for violence or engaging in harassment, so their bullshit claims of not allowing violence are absolutely hypocritical.
Thanks for the writeup, I think I've been banned (edit: by admin, mods never banned me) about ten times on reddit over the years and it was always for shit you'd never get banned for on forums run by independents instead of corporations. Especially one owned by spez who idolizes Elon Musk.

You may also enjoy SomethingAwful Forums. The $5 one time to register fee paywall keeps most jerks out. https://forums.somethingawful.com/

Bans are public, and the mods are hilarious: https://forums.somethingawful.com/banlist.php

Imagine someone getting banned for lying on reddit in a Trump thread. Also, mods can add text to your public profile attached to every post you make. Sometimes it's in size 50 red text. Sometimes it's a flashing GIF calling the user a moron hyperlinked to an example.

We’re allowed to discuss all forms of revolution, so long as they are ineffective.

So if you want to know how to stage a successful revolution, consider what you’re not allowed to say as the starting point. And take a look at how the CIA overthrows governments- it ain’t peaceful.

The number of peaceful revolutions we can unfortunately count on one hand. We can strive for to -but we have to be realistic

However there also has to be a plan. Simply overthrowing the existing rule allows chaos & someone worse to assume power
- The old rule has already been overthrown. By Trump, far right white Christian nationalists, and silicon valley. Unfortunately, it's being replaced with something way worse.
- ‘We can’t overthrow Hitler, because someone worse could come in to take his place.’
- Not only that, but without a plan you won't even be able to get close to overthrowing any half-competent regime.
Am I gonna get banned for upvoting this?
also, look at all the americans the FBI has gone after hardest. except the ones they were obviously paid to silence.

it's not all violence. it will all draw violence.

Because they own the platform.

Hence, why Lemmy was needed.

Lemmy's security is largely in its obscurity. If the community ever gains the degree of popularity or prominence as Reddit, it will succumb to all the same socio-economic pressures.

Hell, Reddit's origin story isn't far off from Lemmy's. A left-wing FOSS guy pioneers a novel means of aggregating information in a relatively decentralized and community-oriented way. But then the capitalists move in, he's arrested, the administration of the site is auctioned off to VCs, and the site is slowly mutated into an echo chamber for neoliberal propagandists and reactionary agitators to scream at one another, drowning everything else out.

Lemmyites want to believe they've engineered a technical solution to what is ultimately a socio-economic problem. The human labor that makes Lemmy work can be attacked and replaced, the communities that form alienated from one another and censored by moderators and dispersed, and the popularity monetized here just like has happened elsewhere.

This isn't a safe social media space. Its just a lingering redoubt in an internet that's been under siege for decades.
- As I understand it, the fediverse as a whole is composed of instances, each one communicating with whichever other instances it wishes (the instances acting as social medias of sorts). Each instance is created by people making their own thing, so if one large instance (such as Lemmy.world) were to get taken over by filthy capitalists, someone could simply make a new, separate instance and choose not to federate with Lemmy world. Is this not the case?
- Reddit was never FOSS. Linux is still going stong, even with vested financial interests.
  
  Most importantly, wie have already made the decision to leave traditional social media and build something better. If worst comes to wiorst, we'll find each other again.
- That it literally why we have Lemmy and other AP sites. Big corporations cannot take control of our spaces.
  
  Likewise reddit was never decentralised.
- it will succumb to all the same socio-economic pressures.
  
  The fediverse's decentralized nature means that while some parts of it will succumb (maybe even most), there will inevitably be parts of it that don't (or at least to a much lesser extent.)
  
  It's quite possible that the parts of the fediverse that avoid commercialization, though, are the ones that allow things that businesses don't want to be associated with, like saying the N word.
  
  Could be a great resurgence of free speech, although you'll have to tolerate people saying things you don't like.
yeah, and even lemmy.world deleted some comments in this thread for inciting violence that were, in my opinion, completely non-violent. So, i deleted all my comments and account and moved to another instance. it is nice to have options.
- Agreed! There is no reason to congregate on lemmy.world.
  
  They've already shown their "rules" don't really matter; they'll just ban whoever they want and keep whoever they want.

Let's not play dumb. Evoking the image of Luigi is in itself a gesture towards violence. That's the point. Why discuss billionaires and show a picture of Luigi instead of Mary Poppins? Because of what Luigi did and what he represents. It's implying a desirable solution.

It's bullshit that Reddit removes this stuff, and it reveals where their loyalties lie, but we're not on Reddit anymore.

Stop acting like a conservative and just say what you mean.

Or maybe act more like a conservative and obscure your viewpoints more so they don't get banned. Let's go Mary Poppins memes.

Yeah, it's disingenuous to claim that they aren't implicitly supporting what Luigi is alleged to do with this post.
Assuming it doesn't get removed... https://www.reddit.com/r/Anticonsumption/comments/1jacfdl/she_is_the_greatest/
Luigi is "bad" violence but promoting the violent annexation of Canada is not? Give me a break.
So we should use the image of Mary Poppins, but really everyone knows we mean Luigi but can do sweet FA about it? Not a bad idea.
- That's called a dog whistle. Not a new idea.
Agreed. Asking nicely is the only way to get the billionaires to stop.
- fuck off, that's not what I meant. I'm saying stop ACTING like you're asking nicely.
I, personally, have no problem with violence against rich people.

If they're not making an honest effort to redistribute their wealth to those who need it, then they are part of a system that enables the most human suffering in history: exacerbating the disparity in wealth.
- that's cool, thanks for sharing, not really relevant to the point I'm making though. I'm just saying stop pretending like you feel otherwise when you post luigi
This is beyond the tipping point where selective enforcement shows it face. If this is crossing the line practically any picture of politician or historical figure is inciting violence.
- THIS is key. they choose to take down the threat they're most threatened by. trouble with removing other public figures is that no one is posting gengis khan memes about ceos. and we don't know luigi for anything but his one thing.
Why Mary Poppins? Luigi the Nintendo character is right there.

Either it works, or Nintendo starts getting their stuff taken down by Reddit... in which case I wouldn't want to be in Spez's shoes.
- I'm not actually suggesting we dog whistle

I literally rage quit reddit over this. Hence why am on Lemmy now. Hopefully we can draw more users from Reddit over here. Esp with the boycott of all things US.

you would probably banned eventually anyways, since luigi is enough to have you banned. i was banned a few weeks before this for some other stupid reason. apparently people were getting banned anyway after temp ban is lifted.
Welcome! I migrated when the old Reddit apps stopped working, and the grass is indeed greener on this side, except for the non-English communities.

They want to establish the narrative of Luigi-the-terrorist, but human beings know who is the reasonable one.

human beings know who is the reasonable one

I remember people saying that about Julian Assange and Edward Snowden twenty years ago. It didn't take long for popular opinion to turn on them, though. Just call the whistleblowers allies of the opposition party or props of an evil foreign government. Americans hate that. And the American public soured on them rapidly, as a result.
- That's why we need to stop relying on idols and figureheads. I dont even necessarily think we need to organize, but to act as individuals capable of operating independently from central leadership. Most of us have the same goal, after all. It's just most of us are still too comfortable or afraid to do anything, and that's because we invested too much in leaders or orgs that we watch get assassinated and destroyed. But they can't get all of us, especially if we act independently, and soon.
- I don't know where you live, but you can say that about your own context. What happened to Assange has no name, shame on the USA government! Fortunately, not all populations are equally easy-handled.

Removing billionaires is self defense, don't let anyone tell you different. They commit acts of gross violence on the general populace every single day. It's time to re-balance the scales.

Yeah, the existence of billionaires requires violence be perpetrated upon entire groups of people.
- #killbill
The state calls its own violence law, but that of the individual, crime.

Max Stirner
I mean. I would never do something like this. And I don’t condone it. But people are free to do with their lives what they want. We have guns to fight tyranny.
The amount of damage the disparity in wealth causes is difficult to understate.

Apparently, just showing an image of the guy they are pinning the crime on is violence in and of itself. 🤷🏻‍♂️

He's just too hot. You must be 18+ to view this sexy, sexy picture 🔞🔞🔞🥵🥵🥵
- It's NSFW in 2 different ways
They know ideas are powerful, that's why they don't want us to have them.

Patron saint of justice.
- I’ve been calling him Patron Saint Luigi lately lol
This is perfect for a non violent easter post 🤩

Yesterday I saw clips on TV from us media supporting trump's stances on Ukraine and stuff like that. Made me quite angry because the way that the presentation of the news was set up was to influence the viewer. Nothing else. It wasn't to inform, it was to influence.

When it's about politics on Belgian nationalised TV channel, then it's always various people who share their points of view and it's more to inform than to dictate.

MSM in the uss are owned 6-7 trump loving conservatives thats why. last years was nothing but sanewashing trump news, while ignore all the epstein investigation+ we havnt heard from mis GHISLAINE maxwell for like 2 years by then in the news, besides epstein she was the 2nd in command in relation of his operations, she knew everything that was going on, but not a peep from msm about her.

This is why billionaires didn't like Lina Khan. As head of the FTC she understood her job was to prevent and break up monopolies. The billionaire monopoly winners disagreed.

Saying that the post has nothing to do with violence is pretty dishonest. Why do you think that the person who made the meme used Luigi Mangione instead of Bernie Sanders?

Either way the post didn't explicitly or implicitly encourage violence and should've stayed up.

Why do you think that the person who made the meme used Luigi Mangione instead of Bernie Sanders?

Because Luigi everything has been getting censored by establishment media?
- I agree. At most send an advisory message reminding the poster of rules and not to post worse. AT MOST. And I say that as someone who condemns the CEO murder and I don't agree with Luigi being glorified in any way.
- If you think that using Luigi Mangione in a post about the wealthy and elite doesn't imply violence against those people, then we are simply going to have to disagree and I frankly think you are being intellectually dishonest.
A person can be an idol/totem/icon of resistance. The post does not incite violence, nor does it display any violence. It does not break any rules.
- Listen, I don't think the post should have been removed, but I don't think what you said is necessarily true. While obviously an extreme to make my point, if there was a non-violent quote from Hitler, nobody would bat an eye when it gets quickly removed. Of course Luigi isn't the same as Hitler, but a case can be made that at a certain point the persons appearance is enough to make a statement, regardless of the quote in the post.
  
  Of course, it's different because nearly everyone on this platform supports the movement that Luigi represented (myself included).
Allegedly
It made you post a comment though, would you have paid as much attention if it were yet another Bernie meme?

For the record, I'm just playing Devil's advocate above. I agree that using Luigi Mangione in political memes inherently carries the connotation of violence.
- I actually commented more because of OP's insanely disingenuous take on the content. But, I don't understand what that has anything to do with my statement though. I didn't assert or deny that Luigi Mangione drives engagement. You might as well have replied to me with "llamas are pretty cute though".

Honestly: leave Reddit to the bots.

Anyone who is still there after all the bullshit, well, I would argue that either they're oblivious, or some kind of bootlicker, either way, we are probably better off without them.

On an unrelated note, I hope Luigi gets Justice. I mean, he won't, but.... I can hope.

The just outcome for Luigi is to acquit him. He acted in the best interest of the people. He was protecting and serving the people. He's a better enforcement officer than any LEO I've ever met.

Best of all, he wasn't tasked with doing it. Nobody asked him to, nor did anyone pay him for his efforts. He's a hero of the people. IMO, his actions, while extreme, are on par with someone who saves a person from a burning car, or picks up a victim and drives them to the hospital so they can get to the care they need more quickly. Luigi just did it on a much broader scale. Here's this guy that's preventing people from getting to the care they need. He's like a bouncer for a hospital. So when an injured patent rolls up and the bouncer says "no" to providing care, it's reasonable to remove that bouncer by any means necessary to save the people that he's blocking from getting the care they need.

Yes, he used methods that are unconventional. Yes, he probably shouldn't have. The outcome is the same. He moved the needle towards good.

While I can sympathize with those that lost their father/brother/husband/son/etc. I can't sympathize with the man that was removed from blocking critical care to those who needed it, paid for it, and wanted it.

Anyone in charge at any US insurance company: they're is blood on your hands. Do the right thing, or Luigi won't be the last martyr to go down for the good of the people.

half the site runs on bots, ive been pointing out how people are getting worked up in nnews and politics over the fact its bots, mainly russian and US bots ragebaiting people. LEO all are there only support the wealthy class, yea luigi was wealthy himself and a right winger, (dont know if hes now though)

Let's try the same text with a Nazi salute. Maybe even a literal photo of Hitler. I wonder if they'll stay up. (I expect they will)

You have to use his full name “Luigi Mario” so it doesn’t get taken down.

Delete reddit

I think it's interesting people keep posting things about this particular person when it's likely to be filtered in all kiinds of media.

Not that I'm advocating for violence, but man, it seems like the people doing this would get their point across a lot more easily by posting pictures of groups of teens.

Everyone worships him and his deeds at the same time you let America turn into a dictatorship and let trump destroy everything. So hypocritical to celebrate him but at the same time sipping coffee watching all your future being destroyed... Luigi, on the other hand, has taken action... what about you and the heads in the sand? Hypocrites hypocrites hypocrites FCK Amerika

Pretty sure he is pissed on the citizen too!
- It's all hero worship, our civic tradition is (unintentionally?) very heavily based on The Great Man concept, Washington crossed the Potomac, not the people in the army, MLK won the right for civil rights, not the thousands of people working together for decades, etc etc
  
  Luigi will save us (no, it will take all of us)
- I'm not saying that anyone should stop supporting him.
  
  I am saying that if the end goal is to communicate messages of support for the types of things he did, it would likely make more sense to post pictures that couldn't be easily filtered.
  
  Groups of teens would get a message across("guillotines") but would be difficult to filter effectively.
  
  Pictures of one particular character are a lot easier to block.
  
  Filtering systems can effectively block 100% of pictures of Luigi Mangione and of the character Luigi, but if people just posted picture after picture of groups of teenagers, that would be a lot harder to effectively filter.
- Hopefully more people will take action, but change is slow.
  
  People need to realize what he did was necessary and we need more work like it done. We need more discussions, more alliances, more promotion of fighting back instead of being afraid of it.
  
  Right now, the main fear among those brave heroes plotting to overthrow our oppressors are those being paid by the oppressors to protect the current power structure.
  
  It's a war. We've been conditioned not to see it.
- Our insurance is tied to our jobs. If we lose our jobs, we lose any potential for financial stability in the face of illness or injury. If you protest and get hurt, you’re on your own.
  
  It’s a billionaires world, and we’re just living in it.
I’d say letting people realize that even a picture of the guy with no violent messages attached gets removed is a really good way to get a point across.
Not that I’m advocating for violence

That won't be the get out of jail free card that you're used to having soon.

It's not only who they serve that is on full display, it what those in power fear most

They fear it so much that they are ruthlessly crushing it across all social media platforms

It is because Spez is a corporate shill taking that sweet sweet Russian oligarch and Chinese investor money while he bleeds users and data.

Peter Thiel is an American oligarch. He has funded reddit from the beginning. Then later on Andreessen and Altman.

Which Russian oligarchs fund reddit? And I very much doubt the 3 hundred million from Tencent holds much sway considering how virulently anti-China reddit is.
- I guess that explains how disgustingly pro-Israel Reddit (or the Reddit bots) are?

I'm not religious, but if there IS a god, he has to make luigi be found not guilty.

he might be Jesus
- in that case, I hope it's jesus's second coming.

If "Section 230" is repealed by the Maga-Idiots any US social media plattfrom will become liable for what the user's posts, they will have to do MUCH cleanup.

Any threat. Any wrongful accusation, and harm done to reputation will be OWNED not by the user in question.. but the company providing the plattform, as if they are a newspaper and all users are staff writers.

Imagine writing "Dodge only make shitty cars that break all the time" on X, and X is now held accountable by Stellantis for damaging their reputation.

I hope they do it. Plattforms that make billions from free work of the users, should own the liabilities.

it would also un-shield any site from user generated content, making lemmy instance operators liable. all comment boxes on any site would disappear; the dead internet theory would become a reality overnight within the us
- Well than don't operate within the US.
  
  The Maga aßholes want to be hateful on the internet without getting moderated. Without moderation it's okay that the plattform becomes the publisher and is liable. I'd not be sad for meta/reddit/Twitter to just implode on legal fees.. owning the fake news they allow to be distributed..while making money off advertisers..
I was for this when it passed originally but now seeing what these companies have done with it in the intervening years, I think maybe I was giving them too much benefit of the doubt

lol in France we got the same but it's basically just one guy who owns all the media.

This reminded me that I'm still watching some subs through still existing mirrors like undelete so I don't give reddit views, and I noticed that a big 21k upvoted post on subredditdrama about /r/conservative starting to panic over whether trump even knows what he's doing was deleted. ~~All I can imagine for why it was deleted was intervention because of this rule, I couldn't find a mod post on it, it might have been admin intervention.~~ EDIT: There was a mod post, that it was going to stay up, but then another mod who posts in dogwhistle subs and has a tendency of removing posts from /r/conservative did. It WAS mods this time, but it's still bad actors pushing a certain outcome.

This is really one of the biggest problem we have. They influence elections, they influence public opinion, they spin the narrative as they want.

But have you throught about the parasite being uncomfortable because peasants meme Luigi tho?

If the billionaires aren't getting mad at this, they are getting something good from it. Most likely in the form of extreme tax cuts (and the legal type of fraud). They'd have less capital but more for themselves.

They're scared of anything that challenges their position even subtly. So they remove posts like this to avoid questioning the narrative. Hopefully their efforts will backfire with the Streisand effect.

I feel like the US at this point is a lost cause. The corpos have accumulated way too much lobbying power over the past few years. They will never allow real progressive candidates win major elections. Democrats now have to play the center in order to not upset the corporations. We lost our last real chance to make meaningful change with Bernie in 2016...

Bernie in 2016

DNC komissars denied us that because it was "her turn"

And they have been denying pro worker candidates ever since.

Clear Channel, but they changed their name. I think they're IHeartMedia now?

Posting an image of a person who is known to everyone as the (suspected) murderer of a capitalist, whom he explicitly murdered for his capitalistic practices, and referring to a distinct but similar set of calitalistic practices is not "a non-violent Luigi post". It's not directly calling for violence, sure. But the connection is pretty clear. If the Right did something like that, we'd probably call it a ((likely intentionally) poorly disguised) dog whistle.

I'm not saying the post is evil and ban-worthy. Which side an action is done for matters. You might say, the ends justify the means. But get your terminology right, and shed the centrists' illusions. And non-violence is an illusion. This is the propaganda theatre of a class war. And Reddit is fighting for the enemy.

Thats the point. They are banning class warfare; not violence.

That sub generally isn't a meme sub so it's not surprising they removed it for non conspiratorial reasons.

Yeah we know, wtf am I supposed to do about it?

You probably do more than you think. They control the flow of information because they know how dangerous an informed public would be to their interest (in keeping us in chains). If everyone understood how bad they’re getting fucked, there wouldn’t be anything left to do, the people would burn it all down.
- lol Americans can’t even be bothered to get off the couch to get out and vote to save their country, they ain’t burning nothing down

I so hope the jury finds him innocent. Undo past wrong doings (such as casey anthony or OJ etc)

wasnt his arrest kinda botched, well see how the prosecutor convinces the jury to ignore that part of the trial.

They'll post this on a news subreddit where they all consume said media daily and see zero irony.

I fuckin hate that people use Luigi's picture for causes he wasn't (allegedly) explicitly championing even when I agree with them.

Quit making Luigi Mangione your mascot.

Why?
- I think it's shitty to put words in people's mouths.
  
  Why do you think that's a good thing to do?
Thats why this post was interesting. It had nothing to do with luigi or violence but they removed it anyways.

If mustache man won this woukdnt he a problem js

pRoMiTInG VioLence

It's a photo of a guy who shot a CEO and a text that basically says "there's more".

While I agree with the message, it's still a call to voilence.

your mom is a call to violence

NGL if ya'lls ability to make rational appeals inherently relies on Luigi Mangione worship then you're going to have a very difficult time just in general.

Even just using the un-photo-shopped Bernie Sanders original could swing the bias almost 50% in your favor when approaching the general public with your ideals.

Everybody loves Bernie. Only 18% approve of what Luigi did.

Last numbers I saw in that kinda world, where very much higher then 18% not sure where you are pulling that figure from?
- The poll which came out on December 13th 2024
  
  https://stratpolitics.org/2024/12/unitedhealthcare-poll/
In your link below, 18% only includes "strong positive". Why exclude "somewhat positive"?

Edit (correcting numbers as pointed out): 31% positive, 41% negative for the under-45 respondents. 19% positive, 61% negative overall.
- Why exclude “somewhat positive”?
  
  Because they're making their argument in bad faith, or they stopped after getting the part they wanted and didn't bother looking any further.
- It's actually 19%, including both levels of support. Reading is hard for people I guess.
  
  And for the record, 61% held a negative view. So OP is completely correct here.
After all these years, people still don’t understand echo chambers.

Not saying it's wrong, but the comments here look as much like an echo chamber as any other I've seen.

Funny discounting consensus as an echo chamber
- Funny how you dismiss it as consensus.
Says the guy who makes Linux hate communities and bans anyone who comments in a way they don't approve 🤣
- Bootlickers mate... Every single time
Oh hey look it's the fucking weirdo who made a Linux hate community

You'd definitely know what an echo chamber looks like, that's for sure

What other murderers are your heroes folks?

All the rich people that perpetuate a power structure that kills poor people every day.
Agree. This shit is unhinged.