2d ago

It just doesn't have snow

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I used to LOVE summer but its just way too hot now.
- Any maybe winters not cold enough people would appreciate some warmth

Summer? When things are green? I can get strawberries from our garden? It isn’t dark at 4:30 in the afternoon? I don’t have to scrape ice off the car while it preheats idling?
That atrocious season?
- Yes, that season with 40°C (104°F) and up to 90% humidity, where you can't be outside in the sun for a quarter of the available daylight if you don't want to die young, and the only way to fight the heat is AC.
  #TeamWinter
  
  I used to live in Australia, and moved to the Nordics. I love summer and winter here. Australian summers are too hot, and winter is just wet and cold. Nordic winters have snow (hopefully soon) and it's dry outside, and summers are maximum 30c, anything over 25c is a heatwave. I can deal with that.
- May I present a counter argument:
  #THE FUCKING SUN
  
  Oh those two weeks where it's like super nice and your replenish your vitamin d for the year?
  Norwegian here
- Ya that atrocious season. The season where you can walk through the woods on a full moon, the luminescence making the snow practically glow as the Milky Way makes its Milky Way. That season that has a stillness and quietness not found anywhere else, where you could hear a pin drop from a football field away. That atrocious season where you get to take ridiculously hot saunas, then jump in the snow or lake, and get to feel clean from the inside out. That atrocious season where you get to cuddle up with your family in front of a nice fire and read a book. Bleh who needs it
  
  You should write a book. That's top tier descriptiveness.
  
  where you get to take ridiculously hot saunas, then jump in the snow or lake,
  Be careful. That behavior can cause a stroke.
- This is huuuuugely dependent on where you live.
  It's hot as shit here and things get brown, not Green.
  Christmas also much less magical haha (because it's summer)

listen here, canadian, you may like it when your extremities hurt from how fucking cold it is, and love sweating because you have to wear layers to not freeze, but your nose is still cold, but some of us actually like feeling like we're warm enough and being ok with things being bright, visible, welcoming and comfortable.
Too hot? just stay indoors between 11 to 3 and you'll be fine.
EDIT: Unlike those random ass non summer months when it can rain or be shittier than usual at random, we know when it's too fucking hot or so sunny it will burn you; it's the same fucking time every day.
- Too cold? Put on more clothes until you're warm and cozy.
  Too hot? Keep taking off clothes until you're just a sweaty naked mess begging for the sweet release of death.
  
  I got 3 layers on inside and my hands are still chilled and my feet bounce from being cold to being sweaty so I'm constantly taking my socks on and off. I was sitting in my office at work with my coat and jacket on for 3 hours yesterday before I got back up to a comfortable temperature after being outside. Also everything just fucking hurts all the time. Fuck this shit. I don't have issues like this in summer.
  
  Too cold? Put on more clothes until you’re warm and cozy.
  again, different parts are difficult to keep warm, like my nose or my hands and feet. How the fuck am I meant to type with thick gloves on?
  Also, the differing levels of activity and transitions make it awkward, I'm dressed in a thick coat because its cold, and my core starts to get warm because I'm walking , but my arms would be freezing, and when I get to my destination I take of my coat and stench bomb wherever the fuck I am
- Stay inside from 11-3? More like stay inside from May-September.
  I never stop sweating for like four months of the year and hate it.
- Too hot? just stay indoors between 11 and 3 and you’ll be fine.
  Good thing no one works outdoors and every building has A/C.
  
  It sucks to work outdoors full stop. You think they prefer it cold or rainy?
- Canadian here. Fuck being cold.
  
  And never seeing the sun.
  
  How many mosquito bites did you get today?
- Too hot? just stay indoors between 11 to 3 and you'll be fine.
  Cries in European (we usually don't have AC)
  
  A dehumidifier plus a "swamp cooler" (a bucket of ice in front of a fan) works pretty well so long as you keep it to one room and only expect it to work for a few hours or so. Otherwise you'll be buying a lot of ice and doing a lot of work dumping the water from the dehumidifier.
  
  Neither do Canadians
  
  https://lemmy.world/post/40277663/21045211
  bruh just turn on a fan
- You know that scene from riddick where the guy steps into the sun/desert storm and gets instantly vaporized? Thats what its like here in the summer. Every year my state sends everyone a letter telling them basically not to go outside. Winters are aight, they get a little cold. Coldest i can remember was about -10f or im guessing about -14C
- I live in Calgary. The 3 things Calgarians will invariably tell you are: 1) Calgary Olympics was the only profitable one and was well managed. 2) Tennessee barbeque is the greatest. 3) it gets to -40, but it's not so bad because it's dry cold.
  Only one of those is unconditionally true.
  
  Calgary Olympics was the only profitable one and was well managed
  is it this one?

I also enjoy actually seeing the fucking sun once in a while.
- Spotted a 9 to 5 workoid. (It takes one to know one)
  
  Well, 7-6. I live in the dark.
- I work in a basement with no windows. Will regularly go 5 straight days with no sun. Still prefer winter over summer.

Two words.
Summer nights.
Warm, but not too hot, beautiful and calming.
Winter can fuck off until it brings sensible amount of snow.
Fall can fuck off fully as I hate rain.
On the fence about Spring. Sometimes it's Fall lite, sometines it's Summer Nights daylight version.
- Damn. Your take on fall saddens me. Where I come from fall is the driest season of the year. The chill finally starts to settle in the air and the leaves start to change and a steady light breeze starts in due to the leaves dropping from the trees.
  A wet fall on the other hand sounds miserable.
  
  Where I live fall is basically a completely random mix of anything between +15 °C and dry weather (but the ground is still wet from yesterday) and rain at +1 °C, with nights being anything between +10 and -5.
  Winter is basically two months of damp +2°C days followed by a February with actual snow that nobody is really happy about because it happens at the worst time possible.
  Spring is nice. Then summer rolls around with temps between 30 and 40 °C because of climate change. It's still better than fall and winter.
  
  Here's it's famously golden and famously wet. Coupled with overall gray (thankfully less and less) look of the cities...welcome to depresso season. Or angery for me. Cause rain.
- Summer nights are okay but I hate mosquitoes so I don't get to enjoy them as much as I'd like.
- Seconded summer nights.
  ♪ Kiss me, beneath the milky twilight... ♪
- I don't like cold rain, so Spring is out for me. Fall is DRY here. Like the only temporary drought we ever get. Summers are a mixed bag, mostly unbearably hot and humid, but we do occasionally get strangely cool and dry days where it is too chilly to be standing outside wet in a swimsuit. Winter is great as long as it's below freezing, which it mostly has been. It's not even winter yet and we've had four good snows. It was -19c yesterday morning, and we're at the same latitude as Portugal. Sometimes we get a warm winter day with that 2 or 3c rain and that can fuck right off.

I love summer because it's the only season that's consistently not cold, and I hate being cold more than I hate being hot.
- Yeah, being hot sucks but drink water and snack and you'll survive. Being extremely cold is PAIN. That said I much prefer spring. Warm days, cool nights, and rain is pretty neat.
  
  People always say "just put on more layers" but it's important to understand that cold kills way more people than heat. Depending on the source, the ratio is between 9:1 and 18:1.
- I'm the same way. Hate being cold. I've started to just say my favorite season is "not winter". Though it helps I live in an area with incredible summers and miserable winters.

people who say they like [other season] are lying to themselves. It is objectively correct to like [poster's favorite season]

Depends on your climate. Climate usually cold? Summer is a relief. Climate usually hot? Summer sucks.

God I love summer. Hard to go to the lake when it's frozen. Can't go hiking in the mud during spring or fall. Camping when it's 35 sucks. Just relaxing outside for hours in the 20s isn't ideal. Summer is amazing.
- Same, drink plenty of water and you're fine. I'll take the warm weather over the cold any day of the year. Cold sucks, because all your doing is trying to stay warm.
  
  Warm weather he says.
  Sure, "warm" is definitely a description.
  A better description might be "So balls-squelchingly hot that you are constantly sweating, even when not moving, and you have to carry a spare change of clothes for when your first one inevitably becomes drenched; and you are constantly miserable because your body is not designed to be comfortable in +38°C temperatures and, unlike cold weather, you can not just wear more appropriate clothing because even when you are butt ass naked, your back will still resemble a fucking waterfall."
  But sure, let's go with "warm" weather.
  
  I completely disagree. I easily stay warm camping in the snow, I have the proper gear. I am completely unable to be cool outdoors in the summer.
- Ever been ice fishing? Snow mobiling? Those are both fun ways to pass the tine at the lake in winter.
  
  Yes I've been ice fishing and I absolutely hate it. Never been snowmobiling but I imagine that it's much colder snowmobiling as well as you're going faster and the wind and everything like that so no thanks.
- Frozen lakes are what you can skate on. 35 is unbearable camping temperature. Way too hot.
  This message brought to you by Canada
  
  Yeah but you can't swim for a very long. Makes it really difficult to kayak or canoe or rap. Makes it unbearable to fish unless you bring a cabin and basically live on the lake.

The sun is out.
Plants are doing their thing.
Life is abundant.
Idk who the fuck actually thinks “yes winter thank god”
- The heat is restrictive.
  Plants are releasing allergens, requring medication and/or extensive exposure therapies.
  Abundance of life can be overwhelming and invasive in the form of road traffic full of boat trailers, pickup flag caravans, and grills and smokers billowing on residential development scales.
  I can regulate my temperature in the cold, where there are barely any allergens that get me and everyone's holed up inside so I can be outside and in peace more often than not.
  But my ancestors were bog people. If it isn't misty or foggy in the morning I am genetically obligated to be grouchy until ingesting heated caffiene or complaining about the english.
- No bugs.
  Snow.
  Sun is still out but isn't a deadly laser.
  Hot cocoa by a crackling fire.
  
  Snow
  If only.
  Agree with the rest
- People who live in hot places I assume
- Dead silent moonlit landscapes are just incredible.
  Dry is key, wet and cold winters are awful. Like -6C to -17C is perfect. -6C is practically t-shirt weather. Anything between-3C and 5C (27F-41F) is just misery.
  Living somewhere that the snow stays powdery and it's -10C on average for 4 months of the winter is awesome!
  
  Dry is key, wet and cold winters are awful.
  I think this is a key distinction between the people who generally like one over the other. If you live somewhere where winter is wet and summer is dry, you probably prefer summer. And vice versa.
  The other big thing that I never see anyone talk about is the wind. I think the wind is probably one of the most impactful things for a season. Hot summer with a cool breeze bringing cold air from over the ocean? Fantastic and refreshing. Snow on the ground and gusting 8-16 kmh? I don't care how sunny it is, that wind is cutting through every single layer you put on. I woke up the other day to a wind chill that brought the temp from -10°C to -17°C. That's 14°F to 1°F.
- Watching the sun rise every morning is nice.

I like summer the most cause it's the only season I don't feel like shit. Whether it's allergies, sinuses, or just general hatred for going outside (and no don't tell me to just put on more layers cause I'm already wearing 5 layers in 8° weather and still freezing my ass off while struggling to move). Doesn't help that I work in a cooler so spending 8-11 hours in a cold room only to leave into the colder outside isn't enjoyable. I miss going on walks at local parks, but all I want to do now is get back in bed ASAP cause that's the warm place.
- I’m already wearing 5 layers
  Why would you need more than 3 layers? Is your middle layer not insulating enough? Are there exposed parts of your body? If you don't feel like wearing a scarf or mask, some vaseline on the nose/cheeks can help.
  
  Tried the Vaseline cause I'm not allowed to wear scaves or masks at work where it's also cold af. Didn't work. Same with trying to wear 3 layers of cottom gloves while working which didn't stop my hands from being in pain from the cold (they get cold faster than anything else on me) and more hinders my ability to work efficiently. I'm only comfortable when in a 70-85° area (or whatever my shower can get to at max heat). Any less and I'm freezing, but I can handle a decent bit more.
- in spring the rain is miserable, makes everything muddy, and you cant walk afterwards because of that mud + overgrown plants. and winter is just that but cold snow and the constant worry of my pipes freezing or water system fucking up. fall is decent but has nothing good for going on it, though going on walks at 100(f) is heavenly.

I am currently living in Romania, where summer will kill you and winter will also kill you
My house is 100 years old and my heating consists of three electric heaters, two wooden stoves and ~~a partridge in a pear tree~~ air conditioning
EDIT: My greatgrandparents built the house themselves. It is not well-insulated at all. I may realistically have to ditch if it hits like -25°C

Texas weather sucks all year. It's so hot you'll die in an hour in the summer and the wind makes it cold as shit even in fall.
- Today as a prime example of too cold out of nowhere (depending where you are, big state)
- So hot in summer that it doesn’t drop below 80 even at night
- Texas weather sucks in the summer. If you're too cold in a Texas winter you need to buy some actual cold gear.
- Well summer was pretty mild this year at least. Frickin weather roulette down here.

❌Hot girl summer
✅Cold removed winter

Na winter can absolutely jog on. Give me my warm days and lots of sunlight.

It all depends on where you live.

God I love winter. Love to go snowshowing on the lake when it’s frozen. Can’t go hiking in the mud during spring or fall. Camping when it’s 95 sucks. Just relaxing outside for hours in the 20s is ideal. Winter is amazing.
- I see what you did there
  
  :) I definitely did it on purpose. Sadly, later viewers will have a harder time seeing it.

Fuck summer and winter, two sides of the same shitty extremes coin. Fall, and to a lesser extent spring, are where it's at.
- Fall is the best. It beats spring because spring tends to have more/worse storms, at least in place I've lived.

Winter and Summer are both too extreme. That leaves Spring and Autumn.
I hate bugs, and Spring is the 'buggiest' season, so for me, Autumn wins by default, lol.
- With climate change they both last a week in average.

BULLSHIT! We get longer daylight, and the sweat is just a gentle reminder that you aren't in constant pain from temperatures below 60F. Also there are less snowbirds jamming the roadways.
- And you're not in constant pain from temperature above 80?
  
  That doesn’t happen until after 90f. I’m from Florida and I would love for the temps to stay in the 80’s during the summer!
  
  Not in the slightest. I had a job for a while that occasionally used an open oven that got over 200F and it felt amazing to be in that space. That was in Florida summer.
- You can always put on more layers. You can't remove skin.
  
  Not with that attitude!
  
  This answer is too common and very selfish. I wear long sleeves and jeans in Florida summer for protection. Layers are the most inconvenient thing ever! Like, the impracticality of it is rediculous. How about I tell you that you can always cling wrap blocks of ice to your body, you entitled asshole! Yeah, and you can plug your freezer suit into the wall to stay cool. How convenient does that sound?! You're probably a morning person, too.
  That is getting close to how I feel about the cold. I learned about how people differently experience pain and mine feels cold. So cold weather just feels like pain and it makes me grumpier.
- converts 60F to Celsius 60F is genuinely the most comfortablr possible temp for me lol. Even a little too warm if it's sunny.
  
  24C is about the coolest comfortable temperature for me.
- I've lived in temps ranging from 112°F to -23°F. Anything 40°F-85°F is fine by me.

God I love autumn. Can chill by the lake with a picnic basket and wait for the stars to come out. Camping when it's pleasantly cool. Plus those fresh orange leaves, and the beetles in the firelight. Autumn is amazing.

Fuck that, where I am winters are; very cold days. short, overcast, rain and windy af
Summer is superb; cool, sunny, longer days
When i liveed in the tropics, summer was sweat dripping balls and horrible.
- Your wingers sound delightful, trade you for my California seasons where the sun is a deadly Lazer most of the damned time. Even when it's cold that bright fucker in the sky will burn your skin, though I guess I'm also exceptionally pale.
- Summer is superb; cool
  You haven't been south and it shows buddy.

Autumn is the best. It's like spring but dry. It's like summer but not boiling.
- Autumn and spring are usually pretty wet here in the UK... Which is fine because I like rain.
  
  Hello fellow rain lover in the UK. I like the rain, and the dark. Walking in the rain on a winter evening is as good as it gets. It's best when there's no wind and the sound of the rain changes depending on what it's falling on. That moment when I move from next to a lake to some trees (as an example) is amazing sound transition.
- Yeah.... i get ya.... but for me autumn makes my brain go "Fuck! Its almost winter..... Fuck! Its almost winter" Ad inifitum. So for me spring wins cause i know ive got maximum time until the freezing temps make my bones hurt, and patches of ice are sneakily waiting to make me fall.....

No ticks is pretty great.
- ...is pretty great about winter, I assume was the rest of that sentence?
- I've only gotten ticks in summer
  
  I live in WV. Global warming has allowed those fuckers to THRIVE. I used to play in the woods and get like 5 a summer. I am now older and rarely go beyond a yard and find 3+ each time. I found one on me last month. They usually disappear in September. It's to the point I'm ready to bite the bullet and buy annoying ass guineas and just let the fuckers roam. I'm not super rural, and I'm sure my neighbors might get mad, but fuuuuck lyme disease.

I love summer, but this does kind of make sense. I live in Korea, where they have a long winter break (Christmas until March) from school. People here seem to love winter, which is usually absolutely frigid and miserable.

I love summer because the weather is nice and I get good sunlight and that feels nice. I can walk to work in a cotton shirt instead of a waterproof parka. The rest of the year where I live is constant grey and drizzle. We don't even get fun winter shit like snow here, just grey and wet and cold.

“Hot take” - lol. Sorry, couldn’t help but giggle at the dad joke..

Depends a lot on the climate. I hated summer in Hungary with 3 months of 30-39°C days, now in Scotland, where it barely goes over 20°C for a couple weeks / year, I cherish every sunny day.
- Northern summers are all bangers, except the mosquitos and midges...

My wife works for the schools and still has summer off. I have two kids in high school and one in college. All summer off. I hate summer. I'm going snow camping the week after Christmas though. Without them.

Sunbelt here:
I legitimately loathe any temperature <23°. At 20° I’m too uncomfortable to be outside without layers. I’d prefer to do nearly everything outside if feasible, and really enjoy nature. I also hate rain during the colder months.
I’m legitimately glad that people have options, but I think the population growth of the southwest shows where people are partial to the weather 😝
- I upvoted this but holy Jesus. I'm stripping off at 18C and the scientifically proven melting point for shiny white people like me is 25C. Edit: it's very humid here in fairness.
  If you don't mind me asking, where is it that temperature so regularly? Must be near the equator I'm guessing.
  
  I’m in Tucson (1.5 hours south of Phoenix) where yesterday my car said it was 33° (unseasonably warm for this time of year). We're at 32°N latitude, same as Tel Aviv, but the hottest city at this latitude on the planet (other cities at this latitude are cooler overall because of oceanic/continental climatic influences). We usually get 3 weeks of “possible” <10° midday temps from Christmas to mid January, and every year at that time I’m swearing that I need to move to the Caribbean lmao. I’m also not “white”, so that might affect my sun and temperature perception 😆
- Sunbelt here.... I think the population growth of the southwest shows where people are partial to the weather
  Modern air conditioning does a lot of the heavy lifting for that preference.
  
  You could say that about anywhere on the southern North American continent
- Sunbelt here: I’m legitimately glad that people have options, but I think the population growth of the southwest shows where people are partial to the weather 😝
  Or stupid people just tend to have more children just sayin

Depends on where you live. Summer in Minnesota is probably nice, no snow and lots of lakes to swim in. Summer in Perth is a life-threatening couple of months.

...is it common for people in the northern hemisphere to not get time off school during winter?
- Often a week or two around Christmas time. When I was in school 30 years ago, we got nothing.
  But summer vacation was 3 months long.
- Kids here get a week off in October near Halloween then two weeks around Christmas.
  They get two weeks around Easter which would be your equivalent I suppose from a seasonal perspective.
- We only got christmas holidays

Fall is peak, we just hated it because it meant we were back to school. By far the best weather and plenty of holidays.
- Agreed. Apple cider, pumpkin pie, warm enough to not need a light jacket during the day, then when the sun is down just a light jackal for the wind. Watching Over The Garden Wall and eating Halloween candy.

I'm not a fan of too much heat either, but honestly, where I live, it's not even that bad most summers. It's the darkness around christmas that's the worst. The 3 weeks before and the 3 weeks after specifically.
Spring and autumn are my favorites for sure, and spring is generally better because it rains less. There's something cleansing about that season.

2025 has completely changed my outlook on the seasons, to be honest.
It's for the better too. In my quest to be the "retired tech worker turned farmer" while still having my engineering job, I spent a LOT of time outside this year doing construction and creating DIY equipment to care for my pets.
With that, I have started my natural evolution into the old man that complains about losing daylight. And since I've lost weight I don't like staying quite as cold as before.
So winter has moved way down the list for me. I think Spring has too, because of the wet and the rain.
I still don't like it hot, and I love my beautiful outdoor scenery, so I think Autumn still takes the crown but I am looking forward to the long summer days next year more than ever. I have shit to do, I have plants that will need the sun, and I even have some reptiles that like getting the real thing too.

September & October are my favorite months.
Winter is pretty good too.
Summer meh.

what it feels liek to come here as someone who likes summer...

(please, it is all in good fun, i understand how different people enjoy/suffer temperatures differently)
- When you're cold, you can always put more clothing on.
  When you're hot, you can only take so much clothing off.
  
  technically there is an upper limit to how much clothing one can put on, even if that is the mass of the universe.
  
  Especially if you live in a hot, and HUMID environment. Sweat doesn't cool you if it can't evaporate due to high humidity. You just turn into a sweaty hot mess and overheat.
  
  i understand that, but personally, unles we are talking about >100F and >90% humidity, i don't need more than a small fan and cool water to feel fine
- My argument is that summer is relatively terrible specifically in our current circumstances. For most of history, I would absolutely agree with you. But now we have all kinds of heaters and blankets and clothes designed with incredibly complicated materials to insulate us. There's like 62 million ways keep warm, like 3 ways to keep cold (air conditionerand, touch cold thing, or take off clothes) then factor in global warming and obesity rates rising. It's almost enough to forget that for most of history winter is when people starved and froze to death meanwhile summer was a time of wonderful abundance.

Gimme dat vitamin D
- You gotta get that D
  
  I love the D

I enjoy summer before it gets too hot. June is excellent. August is rough. Spring is best though

Huh. Summer's my favorite. Our summers are wonderful where I live. In fact it's the only season I enjoy at all, which in itself is a bit of a bummer.

Propaganda put out by big winter!

The cradle of humankind is generally though to be northern Africa.
We may have adapted to surviving in cold climates but that's not where our roots are.
- If you pick an arbitrary start time you can make history say lots of things
- Nordics have definitely evolved for cold weather. Most whites and Asians evolved white skin to help synthesize vitamin D from scarce sunlight. Africans evolved dark skin to avoid synthesizing too much vitamin D, which can be toxic.
- You believe northern Africa always had the same climate?

They all have their benefits and drawbacks. I only dislike mud season at the end of winter.
- No hate for the mud season during fall? I can't decide which is worse but I'd rather have no snow than have to deal with rotten snow.
  
  It's not nearly as bad as the spring thaw in my opinion. Frozen ground in the morning, wet mud in the afternoon then freezing into horrible little spikes again overnight. My time in construction when I was younger really sealed it for me.

I live on the Chesapeake Bay so I love Summer.

9 grey months a year, will make you miss the summer, then you you get 3 weeks of it if you're lucky, and then back to the monotone grey, it's not about love, it's about my human need to see other colours

I kinda like all weather, I'm a weather-appreciating generalist I guess so long as it doesn't stay the same for too long. But I definitely like light more than darkness, and god damn the nights get long in the winter. The serenity of a fresh snowfall is not worth three months with < 8 hours of daylight.

Depends on where you live. In the Pacific Northwest, summers used to be pretty mild. Still decent some years

My favorite temp is around 15-18C. Sweater weather.
Cold sucks. But you don't need a lot of protection to be comfortable in 15C weather, and if you're too hot because you've been working or something, instant relief by just taking off a layer.
Summer is too hot. Winter always sucks.
- I'd be overheating at 15C in any kind of layers that thick if I'm not doing nothing.
  
  By "taking off a layer" I mean, you take off your sweater and walk around in your t-shirt....
  You would overheat in 15C weather in a T-shirt?

I hated summers cause it was when I was isolated and emotionally neglected.

I like summer. I also don't have to exist outside during the hottest part of the day though.

10ish years ago I would have said Summer is the best but Spring and Autumn are close contendente. With winters being only ok because of the snow.
Nowadays I still say summer is best but spring and autumn are gone (replaced by alternating weeks of summer and weeks of winter) and winter is just dark, wet and too cold to be enjoyable but not cold enough to have snow.
And also summers used to be like 30°C max if it was hot, maybe a little warmer, now if we get a week of summer that is 30°C max we consider it a cool summer because on average the max day temperature hangs at around 38~40°C.

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