she should do the Senate

Trump has shown this step isnt strictly necessary.

The comments are a classic example of what is actually meant by “You are not immune to propaganda”

They're saying this because they are bots

I want her to run for senate mainly because shes the best chance we have to unseat schumer, and that is important too. Id be happy either way honestly, but thats my preference.

It makes me so mad because AOC is exactly the kind of candidate that Kamala tried to cosplay as for her campaign.

It's so frustrating to see people drool over the fake as fuck version of AOC yet say AOC isn't presidential material.

I'm sure just one more centrist moderate trying to appeal to Republicans will definitely work this time...

In all seriousness, we (as Americans & people world-wide) desperately need genuine Progressives like AOC & Bernie. They are the only ones that consistently hard work hard to advance big, bold action that would actually help improve working people's lives!

At the end of the day, the POTUS is not just a party leader, it is a national (formerly world) leader. That involves being able to at least get SOMETHING out of the other side... unless you are just going to be a fascist dictator apparently.

But you can be damned sure that the news media would immediately attack any Democrat who tried that and lead the lynch mob themselves. So we need someone who knows when to "reach across the aisle" and when to say "Fuck off" because they have enough votes.

Traditionally? The Senate is a great place to learn how to do that. Because there are only 100 (actually 101) people and almost everyone is an established politician, you have to do a LOT more negotiation to get anyone to vote against party lines (usually by benefiting their constituents). Whereas the House is, historically, where randos show up and we are just lucky if they don't eat crayons on camera. So "protest votes"/"meme votes" are more common and they are a lot more likely to break party lines because they know they are going back home next year or trying to join a lobbyist firm.

ANY Democrat would be better than the rapist in chief... maybe even fucking fetterman. But a stronger AOC can do a LOT more good down the line... if there is a down the line.

You guys don't want change you want you return to the status quo.

You have to win to change things bruh. If you can't focus on that even a little and focus only on what you want in a perfect world , then it doesn't matter you want because you'll never win.

All else being equal a white man less than 65 who believe 95percent the same things as AOC will get at least 5 percent more votes just like that, which is the difference between winning and losing.

she lost because she was courting the right wing for some reason

That certainly had a decent effect. She was an easy target. She's not white, she's a woman, Right there you lost almost the entire right. She was trying to court the Jews when Israel was ready to go to bed with trump. She was a 11:59pm changeover for a sick president that was already making some questionable calls. Most of what she was doing wasn't wrong or bad, but it was easy to attack and impossible to defend.

2025 Project was being installed and is being orchestrated by professional incredibly well funded politicians with incredible levels of oligarch backing. No matter what she would have done, anything but an all out blue wave would not have stopped them.

But it won't matter in the next election, they're ready to read from the Russian playbook. It'll be a mock election. Most of the republicans and a lot of the dems are complicit. Even if the left were to get in (0 change imo) they would just call in some left sleepers to switch the power back, we're well and properly baked.

AOC can win because she voted against the rail unions. This pleases the donors

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There's plenty to be against Newsome for considering he platformed fascists, attacks the homeless for fun, and isn't supportive of the LGBTQ+ community.

I think she is smart enough to surround herself with intelligent people. And Newsom seems to have a much bigger ego which is not what I'm interested in, personally.

It really is something that a black man elected as POTUS managed to get somewhat decent affordable healthcare for all. Really goes to show a lot of politicians, regardless of beliefs, are only serving their own interests and of their donors.

The American people are just a byproduct. When will the masses learn we are engaged in a 2 front war: Republicans that became Nazi's over a dpan of a few decades and the Ownership class making regular citizens fight amongst themselves.

That is based.

Yeah, calculated avoidance is a good strategy

Oh there will be an election. But it will be one of those where Trump gets 103% of the vote and anyone that doesn't vote for him gets a visit from ICE.

Agreed, it's super unlikely we'll have free and fair presidential elections again anytime soon. MAGA will illegally hold onto power for as long as possible and that could be decades.

Crockett. I think she has the right energy and confrontation attitude we need.

Assuming we actually get a fair vote (not a chance in hell)

They'll run the same playbook they ran on Harris, it'll have a slightly different effect.

Like Harris, woman so no right winger will vote for her. They'll do an A/B push for Gaza - Israel, she'll go Gaza, they'll demonize her as Middle Eastern. Push as many jews over as they can. They'll start poking at her voting history try to disenfranchise the left.

She's not quite as soft as a target as Harris, and didn't have to back a bunch of right appeasing votes with Biden but they'll still make an effective target out of her.

The only fucking chance we have to get out of this is to push them hard AF to pick the best candidate they can and overwhelmingly vote for them, then do something about it when they say the results were fake and the real winner was orangespawn.

I dunno about that race vs gender analysis.

Obama sent them into a racist rage, and thats what trump actually campaigned on/what people actually voted on.

Worse still, thats what hes delivering, and conservatives are mostly happy enough to make sacrifices if it means the dark skinned marginalized people get hurt.

I think it's not necessarily "because she was a woman", though without a doubt it was factor.

it was also because they were out of touch neoliberals. Hillary was clearly playing dirty with Bernie, and Kamala was actively participating a genocide.

This is why we have primaries. We don’t need to guess. The last 3 democratic candidates bypassed the primaries because the dem leadership are morons.

People don't understand that you need more than hardcore Democrats, you need other groups like Christian swing voters to get elected President.

Christians do not allow woman to be elected to any leadership roles in the Church, because they blame women for the downfall of mankind in the Garden of Eden.

If they won't let a woman lead the church, why would anyone think they would elect a woman to lead the government and country?

They're going to do that regardless of who gets the nomination, though. It shouldn't be a reason to pick someone who has less chance of actually winning.

You're in your 40s, so you literally experienced Barrack Hussein Obama's election as a voting adult. Trump's entire claim to fame was an abjectly racist campaign against him. And then we won a Senate supermajority and 8 years of the most popular president in recent times.

The Midterms will represent a potential check on Trump's power, though we still have major hurdles in the Supreme Court and Trump himself. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump keeps doing what he wants under cover of a Reich-Wing Supreme Court and with a threat of an armed revolt of his MAGA base. The hope is that we can limp through the next two years after the Shitgibbon gets put in check, forcing him to run around the board trying more and more unhinged things until we checkmate him in 28. The reality is that he's still got plenty of pieces and isn't afraid to flip the board if he doesn't get what he wants.

But maybe if he and his followers see tens of millions of people standing up when he tries it, they might fuck off back to the holes they came from.

The way things work in the US, the politicians are always campaigning. I'm sure there are those who can explain why much better than I can, but I think it boils down to the influence of money in our system and the need to constantly fundraise to win.

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Hell yeah dawg AOC popped into hBomberGuy’s DK64 nightmare steam to say “trans rights” lawl

Newsome is fine. He's not transphobic, he is big time supporter of LGBTQ+. He's trying to find a moderate message to win because he saw how Republicans destroyed Kamala on the trans issue.

Personally, I think he should go hard left, but I'm not an incredibly successful governor of the best state in the country.

Idk I do like it when the people in government are aware of how the systems work and how to balance getting things done with keeping to core values as best you can. Inexperienced politicians tend to be loud but get nothing done, and eventually either get voted out or figure it out.

If you look at AOCs transformation over the years, you'll she's become much more pragmatic. Personally I see this as a good thing because I'm about to vote for 26 year old Kat Abughazaleh, and when she gets to Congress she's going to need someone who came from a similar position to help guide her, and AOC is exactly that person.

NOBODY likes politicians.

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