Controversial ‘ICE List’ features photos and names of 100 immigration agents
Controversial ‘ICE List’ features photos and names of 100 immigration agents
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/37343241
Ice List website
When ICE is violently attacking civilians, there's nothing controversial about naming and shaming the fascists involved.
Or prosecuting. I hope they get their comeuppance.
If your police cover their faces, they are not doing good work.
Police have never existed to serve the populace, they solely exist to protect the capital of the wealthy.
Police are a Status Quo maintenence force. The status quo fucking sucks.
But that's on a different level than being allowed to cover your face while destroying lives and saying it is justified because occasionally you enforce laws
Define "never". Never in as in never in the history of 21st century America? Pretty tame assertion. Never in the anthropological sense? That would be completely farcical.
The whole masked officers thing really got me wondering how society would respond to a Batman like figure. I don't think I realized bofore the ICE raids how absolutely horrible the concept of masked superheros was for a free society, even after consuming some media that tried to focus on this issue, like the Watchmen.
Et tu, Phoenix Jones?
Bandits
If you don't show a badge and have a warrant, you're not an officer, you're an armed assailant.
They’re not recruiting the best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re recruiting people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems to us. They’re using drugs. They’re committing crimes. They’re rapists. And some, maybe, although unlikely,, are good people.”
if you are in a car, you have right to use it to defend yourself from thugs/.
“I want to publicly shame them into resigning, because they don’t wear masks for safety. They wear them because they know their neighbors won’t invite them to dinner anymore, that their children or their children’s friends’ parents won’t want them at a baseball game. They care about their personal lives, but not about their safety,” Skinner said in a telephone interview with EL PAÍS from the Netherlands, where he lives.
This is the way.
They are literally covering their faces because they are afraid on the public. They are normal people just like you and I. They need money to support their family just like you and I. Focusing on individual agents is wasteful and cruel.
If a civil war comes, people will need to be able to say they were wrong and switch sides, which means that ICE agents will in fact help save the country.
Being bigoted is not helpful.
If a civil war comes we need to know who isn't trustworthy in leadership. This is a list of those people.
Your misuse of the word "bigoted" is disgraceful. These people chose to lock up other humans in cages to be shipped to countries with worse cages.
They can support their families by getting a real job and not being a class traitor.
There is nothing normal about what ICE agents are doing. If they had a shred of humanity, they wouldn’t carry out such heinous acts.
They are normal people just like you and I.
Maybe like you, but not me. I would NEVER take a job that requires me to abuse my fellow citizens in any way.
As an adult, I could have easily had a career in the tobacco industry, but that was one of those businesses that I told myself I would NEVER join. There are plenty of other legal businesses that I would never do because I believe they are immoral or unethical.
But then there are some jobs that are beyond immoral, beyond unethical, and being an ICE agent is one of them. I don't care how much you need the money, taking the job of abusing innocent families, and destroying lives, simply because you find them icky, is simply EVIL. If you make that choice, you don't get a pass for any reason, and you deserve the condemnation of your follow citizens.
Throwing away your humility means you don't get treated as such. Simple as that.
You're an ice agent aren't you?
(hyperbole for emphasis) hey guys, they were normal people like you and I. They're just supporting their families! - You when talking about the workers at Dachau and Auschwitz
They were people, but let's not pretend they were innocent. Shame is a great motivator, and would influence many ICE agents to stop what they're doing, or at least behave better, I would argue.
Letting law enforcement conceal their identity is some literal fascist shit - that's not hyperbole.
The rest of the world (where I'm from) is looking on with extreme concern.
Which protected class are we being bigoted against?
They are normal people. Fine. Granted. If normal people realize their mistakes, recognize the harm done, and actively work to fix it, then that is an option in a good society. But they must put forth the effort to do so. They cannot skate by and return to mundane life with a simple apology. Don't infantilize these adults who have made decisions and used their agency for evil. You seem to want to pardon them long before any of them have faced real consequences. Stop making excuses. They have to be dragged into the light first in order to face the society they are hurting. How else do you expect that to happen?
Controversial to whom exactly?
The ICE agents on that list, as well as the ones scared of being on future lists.
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Is someone really an immigration agent when they spend no time providing immigration services to the public?
Most of these people seem to be isolation and deportation agents.
We need to publish home addresses, make them scared.
So there actually is a federal (felony) law against that, but not against sharing their names: 18 U.S. Code § 119. This is the most a website could legally get away with, at least for US Citizens. It may not apply to Ice List's designer (Edit: Who is Irish and living in the Netherlands, which I believe is part of 14 Eyes), but I am not a lawyer.
MLK started abandoning this system and then he was killed.
Black Panthers disregarded this system which led to COINTELPRO tactics being used to instigate infighting and divisions. Also gun laws became harsher since the non-whites starting arming up.
The fact that these gestapo fucks all wear masks and are hell bent on not being identified gives cause to believe they require identification.
That shipped sailed a long ass time ago. Normalcy won’t be returning anytime soon.
I wonder how kidnappy the kidnappers would be if they faced justice.
when this is over they should all go to jail. fuck em.
but I'm already pissed knowing that if democrats ever get back on power, they will do nothing, doubt they'll even reduce ICE's funding.
Yes, it'll all be about "unity" and "healing".
Note that even in Germany post WW II, where a real effort was made and at least the official line was uncompromising, the large majority of Nazis and their ideas in politics, society, law, industry GOs and NGOs died slowly of old age over the next 50 years. Without that effort, even a future Democratic president (if even possible) would just be a waiting game for the next Trump.
Tennessee Rep. Marsha Blackburn wants the identities of federal officials carrying out President Donald Trump’s deportation campaign to remain secret for security reasons. To that end, she introduced the Protecting Law Enforcement from Doxxing Act, which would make it illegal to publish the name of a federal law enforcement officer with the intent to obstruct a criminal investigation or immigration operation. Skinner, for his part, has proposed the opposite: to publish as many names of the officers and their collaborators as possible.
This list is for future prosecutions, and as such doesn't run afoul of this proposed law.
with the intent to obstruct a criminal investigation or immigration operation.
Intent is often one of the hardest things to prove in court cases anyway, often requiring additional sources of information to assess state of mind (mens rhea). At least, in a society where law matters. That said, if we assume US law matters at all (which you should never assume considering its historical actions), the stated goal of the site is for future prosecutions, as you've said and I agree.
i woudlnt be surprised if most of them are "unhireables" in other jobs. the people that cant even get hired by walmart and amazon due thier behaviour that they are knowingly aware of, where they take anyone.
People who flunked out of police academy for being too stupid and violent
cant join the military too. Rittenhouse is basically failure of military, police and a MAGAT grifter.
Most of them are tied to the american dream, which says that you can never earn less than you have before or else you are a failure. Its why a lot of people here simply won't adjust to lower levels of income, they'd rather be unemployed. This leads to peolle feeling trapped and limited in job choice. They'd rather work for ICE than to downsize their house or car, but only barely.
ICE agents are not happy. They are paid incredibly well, and thats it. If order actually breaks down, they are just as likely to fight against tyranny than for it. They are just like any other citizens.
The names and photos should be assessable of all federal staff on US soil.
Yeah, they are PUBLIC servants. Their names are supposed to be public.
Not to mention that whole serving the public thing...
If they’ve done nothing wrong then there’s no reason to hide.
It's about time. The only government employee that should have their identities held in secrecy are CIA agents. The rest can f-off and every single US taxpayer should know who is on the damn payroll. Fuck the US version of the RSHA and NKVD.
It's like a Sunshine List for dickheads
Need all of their names
I think a lot aren't even ICE, especially the mall ninja looking motherfuckers in Amazon ICE and police vests/patches. They're just ass holes looking to hurt someone brown under the guise of "immigration enforcement". I'm expecting a day very soon where someone kills one trying to kidnap their SO or child. Only a matter of time.
It's a cruel twist of fate that the only ICE agent who doesn't hide their face is Kristi Noem.
She has hidden her face behind a plastic mask permanently sewn on
Those lists are important! We know how long it took to sentence SS members due to lack of such lists.
At least the ss had a convenient tattoo to help sort them out from the rest.
So you want to be able to sentence ICE agents to death?
I speak for most of the world here when I say, yes.
Lick that boot harder.
We have plenty of videos naming and shaming cops who violate our civil rights, often times in deadly violations, and they're all doing just fine and none of them faced anything more than sometime justice for the inhumane and civil rights violating actions.
It will be the same here, name, shame and make sure they never work in any position of power ever again.
ETA, yet another hours old troll account. To the block list you go.
"To death" was your own addition there. Way to reveal yourself.
They can quit anytime
If you picked up a history book, you would know there isnt much of a difference of functions in what ICE is doing versus the Gestapo back in WW2.
Way to reveal yourself
So you think they're comitting horrific crimes against humanity on par with the nazis then?
I want inhumane behaviour dealt with accordingly, bit I am strictly against death sentences.
It is horrible that USA still makes death sentences in my opinion.
It is unforgivable, but mistakes happen everywhere.
There are better ways to punish.
They are fed workers there's no reason to be secretive.
Good Maybe some unhinged people will see the list.
Doesn't even need to be unhinged. My grandpa shot nazis in the face. Why can't we do the same? There's no rule that fascists can't be American. In fact that seems to be the trend right now.
why we cant scalp them either?
I'm a big fan of GI Robot for sure.
List of ICE, or LICE for short.
You got a LoICE-nse for that list?
Good.
If your Democrat politicians are not threatening to persecute these goons if elected, what the fuck do you need them for?
You can sort by state, but it would be nice to be able to narrow it further. Going through the files manually just to find out they're all hundreds of miles away on the other side of my state is kind of an annoying process
Super cool though
One of those maps you can zoom in on and see them pinned would be handy.
Gee, I wonder how one could release a super simple open-source app to allow users to post/pin sightings. Hmmm.
Protest outside their houses
What would a protest inside their houses be called? Reverse surprise raid party? 🫡
Streissand Effect that shit!
Funny how Reddit doesn’t like this.
was Reddit always this conservative? or they gradually purged all the left from there and now it's a cespit.
Both really. Aaron Swartz was not so conservative but Steve Huffman struck me as a libertarian bro long ago, and so absent Swartz the site began down a horrendous path that ramped up with the banning of leftist spaces like /r/chapotraphouse.
Also relevant on Steve Huffman:
The [Anti-Defamation League] said on Monday it's opened the Center for Technology and Society, complete with an advisory board stacked with notable names like Reddit CEO Steve Huffman, Facebook Vice President of Product Guy Rosen, and Bumble CEO Whitney Wolfe.
https://www.cnet.com/culture/anti-defamation-league-taps-tech-giants-to-fight-hate/
Because its hard to argue the point of the website isn't violence. At best I think we would have to admit it's likely to at least have the side effect of violence.
Lemmy has this thing where one person goes "sometimes violence is necessary" and then their replies are about attacking people not defending. This concept that we need to be bigger and tougher than fascism is simply absurd, and focusing on individual ICE agents is missing the whole point.
I don't see anything wrong with it.
they make lists of progressives and post them online all the time anyways.
democratize this shit.
The list is compiled from largely public sources
one of only two field agents listed is Michael Berkacke
Main People ICE Agents Field Agents Michael Bernacke
(added July 4 2025 haha)
https://icelist.is/ice/michael-bernacke/
source https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/innovation-and-dedication-keys-success-ero-salt-lake-city | https://archive.md/uzafQ
looks like there's lots of admin staff and public facing officials
Name n shame these pricks
I bet some of them drive infowarrior trucks.
I bet half of them where on Jan 6 lists
Sweet.
Where is it?
Link in post body
FAFO.
MOAR MOAR MOAR!!!!
I like the idea, but I'm nervous that he's using AI to build up the rest of the face from limited images. I didn't see anything in the article - any idea how he's verifying these people are ICE agents before publishing their names?
If it's the same project then they are using AI to reconstruct faces, finding matches on social media, then they scan the social media for real evidence. Something like parallel construction or fusion centers except they start with synthetic "evidence" before discovering real evidence.
They take advantage of the fact many people don't realize you can easily bring up someone's Facebook by scanning their face. I don't think they can find ICE members who are secretive and careful, but it's unlikely many ICE members are that meticulous.
I think I read in another article a few weeks back that they have real people verifying the results as well?
Nope. Same as any other random person on the internet, they have no third party fact checking, they have no incentive to be honest and truthful, and their motivations could literally be anything.
It could be a honeypot to pull everyone who visits the site. It could have non-ICE agents in the database to try to incite violence against non-ICE agents. It could simply be a list of a persons enemies from highschool.
It could also be legit, but I'm not going to take the effort to figure it out, because I dont think its that useful of a website even if it is real.
I checked out the website. But what is stopping somebody from just uploading someone they don't like and pretending they are a propagandists or other affiliated with ICE?
It does appear there are some citations here. A few I looked at linked to the person’s own LinkedIn profile associating them with ICE.
But, yes, broadly this is a problem with crowdsourcing this kind of intelligence. Twitter mobs back in the day attacked the wrong person more than once thinking they were a criminal.
The article says one of their reference points is AI facial reconstruction, from as little as 35% exposure as a starting point.
I love the idea, but I'd also like to know more about how they avoid false positives.
Yeah, it's called a "Most Wanted" list. It's where criminals end up when they break the law often enough.
Surprising to me that he is based in the Netherlands. In Germany, this project would likely be criminal.
He still might get into trouble over GDPR. He's obviously counting on the exemption for journalism, but I am not sure if that works.
GDPR exist to protect EU citizens and data. Not U.S citizens or data.
Are you guys really unaware of the whole fundamental rights thing? Feels like EU people are always going on about it. I guess it rarely becomes clear what those rights are.
In EU law, data protection is understood to be a fundamental right. From that viewpoint, saying that GDPR only protects Europeans makes as much sense as saying that laws against murder only protect Europeans.
Good ol' EU: prioritizing "right to be forgotten" & privacy that isn't reasonably expected over transparency, information freedom, truth.
They will easily give up a hundred different names each. Could be a good grab from some low hanging fruit?
Hmmm
If anybody calls for addresses and phone numbers that would be a clear violation of sitewide rules. A clear violation indeed.
Whatever anyone's thoughts about ICE, their children don't deserve to live in fear.
Lib take. These ICE agents are threatening families and you expect their families not to get threatened. Miss me with that double standard. The ICE agents are setting their kids up for failure.
Whatever your thoughts about immigration, neither immigrants or their children deserve to live in fear of violence from a government, particularly one that claims all people have certain "unalienable rights".
I agree, their parents should stop doing things so evil that they have to live in fear.
They deserve to know the truth, that their parent is a fascist who doesn't care about constitutional rights or empathy.
Literally nobody HAS to be an ICE thug. It’s always an active choice. The thugs are doing this to their own children. They don’t have to.
Ya trap what you fucking sow, an eye for an eye and all that. These piss wads shouldve considered their kin before, any stray rounds are firmly on the guy kidnapping and beating folks not the guy pulling the trigger.
Whatever anyone’s thoughts about ICEimmigrants, their children don’t deserve to live in fear.
While the children shouldn't bear the sins of the parents, those ICE parents should be in a pine box. After all, they took a job dedicated to hurting innocent people.
If we want to help the children without parents after a civil war, offering collective support to war orphans would be the way forward: Housing, money, education, therapy.
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I genuinely do not consider that to be controversial.
Fascists should be afraid for their safety, as a general rule. When they’re not, it’s a problem. As we can see now.
Agreed, these are masked criminals and we have the right to share who they are.
And even if they weren't criminals, they're claiming to be law enforcement which normally requires you to identify yourself.
They're also ostensibly public employees. ICE is not a spy organization, we should know who they are
There's a reason why they hide their faces and want to hide their identities .... they know what they are doing is wrong. They're gambling on the idea that if their fascist government stays in place, they'll be rewarded ... but if their fascist government fails, then they can go back to normal society if no one knows who they are.
If what they are doing is justified, moral and can be easily defended, then they would have no need to hide themselves.
It should be trivial for a theoretical subsequent competent government to identify these people, but I've just about lost all hope that anyone will face consequences for doing fascist shit.
The controversy is not that you agree with this, it's that some people don't.
The controversy is coming when this list is contraband.
For the record, fascists will always project that they are afraid for their safety. Playing the victim is how they gain power. When one of them is targeted, it doesn't create fear to dissuade the rest, it empowers them to play it up for support.
The point is that we should MAKE them ACTUALLY afraid for their safety. If they’re playing victim anyways… make them actual victims.
Way more controversial that my tax dollars.oay people that are trying to conceal their identities...?
Like surely. I don't see an argument between clandestine tax dollars thugs and a desire to clarify that clandestine bullshit.
You got it, if your job is to terrify and kidnap people, you should also be at least afraid for your life !
ICE agents arent fascists. They are americans who want a high paying job. Its an awful job and only barely worth it with a six figure salary. If people took more of a stand against working there, they would raise the wages until people want to.
In a way its a good thing these people are mostly doing it for money, which won't much matter in a civil war.
You are clearly not paying attention to the crazy hiring spree ICE is doing, and the ads they’re posting to drive it, or the sort of people that they’re hiring, or their predominant beliefs.
Willful ignorance is a hell of a drug.
Just following orders
How did you decide that? All polling disagrees with you, so what do you know that we don’t?
Billionaires are just following the american dream, they found a high paying job is all. Its not their fault they did evil things along the way!
Come on y'all, let's not pick on the poor fascists!
It's a wonder these people can manage to post with their tongues wrapped so thoroughly around the boot.