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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards @lemmy.dbzer0.com
Pro @reddthat.com

Got banned from Gaming@lemmy.zip community, because why not?

WOW

I expected mods outside .world, .ml and beehaw to be kind of normal. Turns out nope.

Does everyone here exist to further his agenda and just that?

Did people just forget that talking exist?

It started to feel like:

On Reddit, the highest crime you can do is working againest the Algorithm.

On Lemmy, the highest crime you can do is just saying anything that people might not like.

BTW, none of my posts on the gaming community was political.

I guess I will have to wait for further bans to come, to be 100% sure that I am currently using the right communities.

Context. (Not sure)

Edit #1

The fuck? They banned me from their entire instance:

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  • Edit: I went back further. Based solely on this account, your @pro@reddthat.com account, I lean PTB on this specific preemptive ban. I don't have the level of patience required to dig up your main account and see if anything there would justify you the user behind the accounts being banned based on a pattern of behavior. I will say that using the ban reason as given is what pushes it back over the PTB line. Your Pro account didn't make comments or posts that indicate intentionally breaking a rule regarding the israel situation, nor making comments that did so. And I went back 3 weeks.

    So, I'm leaving the previous comment made here instead of deleting or overwriting it, since this edit wouldn't make sense without the original context.

    Eh, it's generally a divisive issue when preemptive bans occur, and I didn't see recent posts on that community, only elsewhere. Same with comments over the last two days. So I suspect this is a preemptive ban rather than one for immediate cause.

    Keep that in mind during the rest of this.

    I'm not certain this is power tripping, but I can't say for sure that your account that you posted this with fully deserved a ban purely on the reason given. There are reasons based on behavior in other ways, but that comes back to whether or not any given individual believes preemptive bans are a useful and acceptable tool, and every time it comes up, the community tends to devolve into arguing about that rather than whatever an OP did.

    Now, I'm in the camp that believes preemptive bans can be a useful tool. I just believe they need to be used rarely and surgically.

    In this case, it comes down not to the post that started the whole thing, but how you handled everything after that.

    The removal reason shown in this post doesn't match what you did. Again, I only went back a little through the user history of this account, not any others you may use or have used in the past.

    From this side of the screen, your comments are on the borderline of justifying a preemptive ban. I wouldn't have done one, not without more than what's visible in the last two days. If I had, I wouldn't have used that reason at all.

    That's why I think this specific ban from the gaming community is really on the knife edge. Unless there was more to see that I didn't scroll back far enough to see, or there are factors I'm unaware of, it does lean a little closer to PTB, but you really gotta recognize that you were either crossing civility line, or walking right up to them and spitting on the other side of it. Yeah, some of what you were responding to did as well, but two wrongs don't make a right.

    That's my take on it. I suspect there's more going on with the decision to ban you like that, or I'd lean heavier to the PTB side, but there's a limit to how far back I'm willing to scroll looking for a specific comment that may or may not be relevant. That's another personal peeve for me with the mod log; there should be more than an accusation in it when it's a preemptive ban, and that's not a one click process to make happen. So it doesn't happen often.

    Makes guesstimating for this community a slog.

    • Idk I would still feel more comfortable if communities gave users a chance to explain themselves first. For example, I would be okay with preemptive bans if the user openly supports genocide. However, going on the linked context alone, OP could just be relaying propaganda accidentally, without the knowledge of why sharing such news can harm the public view of the victims of Israel and sway more opinions toward defending Israel's cruel actions (that started in October 2023, not including their constant cruelty towards Palestinians/Gazans over history).

      It seems, as with a couple of comments in the contextual post, that simply relaying the news - in a news community no less - has triggered a few snowflakes. However the news itself is problematic, in that it implies that the abuse the hostages received actually happened, instead of focusing on the only fact - that an Israeli report states this.

      My opinion stands - as important as it is to fight back against Zionism, cruelty against living beings and oppression of freedom, I believe community leaders should try to hear from the user directly, in order to determine if a ban is necessary.

  • Lol if you're complaining about beehaw moderation you have bigger issues. Literally just don't be a dick and you're a-ok.

  • You seem to be handling this in a really caustic way. Maybe take some time to self-reflect and come back in two weeks? You may be able to get unbanned if you chill a bit.

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