Trump shares the message he receives from NATO leader Mark Rutte

This can't be real
- Real tweet, fake text... no way any NATO leader would say "Europe is going to pay BIG" it's just too Trump. Same with the incessant comma splices.
  But big congrats to Trump for ruining the information space so completely that I genuinely cannot tell what's real anymore.
  
  I'm sure EVERY European politician randomly CAPITALISES words like some LUNATIC
  
  Hasn't Rutte always been known for being able to handle Trump well? I'm pretty sure the only way to do that is kiss his ass in a way he understands, so this doesn't seem too surprising.
  
  AP is reporting this as real
  
  This is Mark Rutte.
  He would totally say “Europe is going to pay in a BIG way” to flatter Trump.
  Incessant comma splices is I guess typically Dutch. I sometimes do it too.
  He's a liberal, making him almost as right-wing as Ursula von der Leyen, not a social democrat
  or a democratic socialist or left of that.
- It's entirely expected, not sure why you're in disbelief.
  
  It reads like something Trump wrote about himself. He's done that kind of bullshit before.
  
  It's saying the quiet part out loud. Surely anyone who sees this will be outraged?
- The Rutte team has confirmed it was indeed a real text sent by Mark Rutte to Trump.
- https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114738606142462442
- Ran a quick search and multiple well established news outlets are reporting this.
  I’m afraid it is.
  The wording does seem very out of character for Rutte but it makes sense that he feels the need to stoop to Trump’s level and overdo the flattering.
  
  Really?
  I'd say it hits it completely on point the way Rutte is, an anglophile that doesn't want to rustle too many feathers unless it's against leaders of countries outside of NATO.
  His party is super-pro-Israel and super-anti-Russia.
  What's he gonna complain about?
  
  Another .ml telling lies. There are only reports on this from bullshit sources. There are no major sources currently reporting this.
  Care to share your “multiple well established sources” or should we just take your word for it?
- Things I'd want to know before deciding for myself whether the screenshot montage is real, regardless of whether Trump shared it (he did):
  Have we seen other screenshots where Trump use enormous font sizes? Is that how bigger system text looks in this app? He's not exactly youthful, so it's no great surprise, but worth asking the question.
  Is it realistic that Trump or an aide would have screenshotted the entire message within two minutes of it being received?
  Does this messaging app routinely display the contact name offset and the profile image vertically cropped? What app is it?
  
  Don't know about any of it, but I've had Rutte as my prime minister.
  This reads like the way he talks and thinks.
  The biggest strength of Rutte is that he's a chameleon,
  so there's no telling what he actually thinks,
  but considering his party allegiance it's pro-NATO through and through.
- "Really, really"
- This is not real and does not belong in “World News”
  It is posted by and primarily upvoted by .ml users.
  Don’t fall for their bullshit.
  Looking further into it you can see that almost every post in “World News” is from .ml users. They are very anti-western everything but post western “news” heavily in communities. I wonder why?
  Furthermore they are brigading comments in this thread. Don’t believe me, just look at the upvote/downvote activity for comments here.
  
  This is Lemmy.ml's World News community. Lemmy.ml users are not brigading their own World News community, lmao. The large proportion of Marxists on Lemmy.ml does lead to an anti-western bias, if you want a pro-western bias there are other World News communities like on Lemmy.world.
  If you have proof that it's fake I would like to see it, but this is a real truth social post from Trump even if he's lying.
  
  This is not real
  Don’t fall for their bullshit.
  It turns out that—as usual—it is real.
  It is posted by and primarily upvoted by .ml users.
  Looking further into it you can see that almost every post in “World News” is from .ml users.
  !worldnews@lemmy.ml is a lemmyml community. Why wouldn’t we be posting and voting in our own community on our own instance?
  They are very anti-western everything but post western “news” heavily in communities. I wonder why?
  “The reason I use western sources when possible is because those are the only sources that western liberals tend to accept.”
  Furthermore they are brigading comments in this thread. Don’t believe me, just look at the upvote/downvote activity for comments here.
  Yes, we’re “brigading” our own community on our own instance 🙄
  On a related note, how is your vote manipulation report coming along[1][2]? Given your trivially disprovable accusations here, I predict it will be more of the same.
  
  eating paint is bad for you

This is so poorly written I have no idea if it's sarcasm or not.
- Eh, looks like rutte writes English in the same way that he speaks it. Honestly I first thought that it was a shitpost, but no, it seems legit.
  
  Rutte's unique approach to English merely reflects the fact that his intellectual ceiling would challenge even the most ambitious root vegetable.
- It's written in a way for Trump to understand

World leaders have figured out he's functionally a toddler. Starmer and Trudeau took the same approach.

Anyone else remember when libs were fearmongering that Trump will leave NATO and leftists said "don't threaten me with a good time"?
- I'm not sure what you're getting at.
  Liberals are right-wing. Always have been, always will be.
  Dutch liberals are not under the progressive umbrella,
  so while the Dutch progressive party is advocating to stop the war,
  Dutch liberals are in full support of it.
  
  ??? What does Dutch libs have to do with this? I meant Usians and others here advocating for voting for Harris. They are naturally pro-NATO so they were using argument people should vote for Harris because Trump said he will make USA leave NATO, while it's obvious NATO is one of prime tools of US imperialism and no way US will leave it and so Trump lied there, and the asskissing in the OP is clear proof.

By the way Rutte changed the wording in the agreement to be more vague as to what 'allies' means because Spain refused to agree to 5%.

Communication is most effective in the language of receiver. Rutte emulates Trump like ChatGPT.

Me: Trump needs to be taken to the Hague
Me: nooo not like that

obviously, I doubt Rutte was expecting this message to be shared. If he wasn't a complete moron and actually doing this just to stroke his own ego, I'd actually give Donald props for leaking it, as Rutte kissing Donald's ass makes him look terrible, and more broadly makes the European parts of NATO look terrible.
I imagine Rutte's intent is to stroke Trump's ego to try and keep him interested in NATO, but I feel like that's a fool's errand. Trump doesn't give a shit about anyone else but himself. This new agreement, with NATO signatories needing to commit 5% of their GDP, feels like a grift for the benefit of U.S. defense contractors. The U.S. cannot be trusted to actually honor their agreements anymore, so why pay more into their alliance? Is Europe really that scared of further Russian aggression?
- Europeans online think that Rutte is 'masterfully manipulating' Trump by talking to him like a 5 year old and are extremely proud of this.
  
  3d chess move by Rutte, kissing Trump ass and conceding his demands, a masterful move indeed.
- Well Rutte's job is basically to keep NATO together, can't blame him for trying. Personally I would not be sad if NATO chucked the US and told them to pack their bases all around Europe and go home. But I understand Rutte's position.
  
  I'd love it if that happened, but that would also mean the dissolution of NATO, so I don't see why NATO would motion to kill itself voluntarily.
  
  Rutte is trans-atlanticist. These people will do anything to keep the peace with the US.
  They're Joshua Wongers with diplomatic talent.
- This new agreement, with NATO signatories needing to commit 5% of their GDP, feels like a grift for the benefit of U.S. defense contractors. The U.S. cannot be trusted to actually honor their agreements anymore, so why pay more into their alliance? Is Europe really that scared of further Russian aggression?
  They're massively investing in European defense industry, not just buying more from the US. They are scared of Russian aggression and they are scared the US will not honor NATO agreements which is why they're committing so hard to defense spending. Also, I believe it's 3.5% for military and 1.5% for infrastructure.
  
  False. Europe is spending big money on American weapons. The independence story was only an excuse to get more money.
  https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/us-defence-firms-chase-european-military-spending-wave-2025-06-18/
  As for the Russia story, nice to see Red Scare works as good as in America when they dismantled their healthcare for the military industrial complex.
- Is Europe really that scared of further Russian aggression?
  Western Europe is afraid of Russia gaining influence in regions and resource rich areas that they seeks to dominate.

Purely defensive pact btw
All in the interests of Europe btw

Does Trump not realize that this message makes himself look bad?
- No. The message here is "look at how I´m having my dick sucked"
  
  Yep. But the point is Donald doesn't realize his dick is getting sucked by someone trying to get a favor out of him rather than just because he's such a swell guy.
  He's a narcissist. All he sees is compliments, not the clear manipulation behind them.
  Give Trump praise, he'll do exactly what you say. Which is why he thinks Putin is his best friend. Putin is just using Trump as a convenient idiot that'll do anything asked as long as Trump feels he'll be complimented by it.
  All he has to say is something like:
  "Oh Donny, at this time your big hands and strong will are our only hope. Won't you please bomb Iran to protect the world and become it's hero?"
  And that's all it takes to start WW3. And Trump would post the message thinking it's a compliment.
- the one looking bad is the one kissing his ass, he is pretty much saying "look at your secretary general kissing my ass 😂 "
- I mean, he also paints himself orange and thinks it's hot...
- How does it make him look bad?
  
  it doesn't
  
  It's clear Mark Rutte is talking to Trump like he's talking to a child. He's buttering Trump up because it's clear superficial gestures are enough to please him.
  It does reflect positively on the influence of America, but not on Trump himself.
- afaik he doesn't have a brain

What a pathetic little worm Rutte is.
- "What can we do to make it look like Israel is not committing war-crimes?" - Mark Rutte right before he got promoted to NATO chief.
- I've had him as prime minister of my country for many years, so this is no surprise.

Europe is going to pay in a BIG way
- no joke, that defence spending increase is going directly to US pockets.
- JDPON mark rutte, helping to bring about that unlimited genocide on the first world

You are flying into another big success in the Hague
I wish

Well i just found out some of these NATO leaders were Nazis so NATO might just be a white supremacist group technically.
- NATO is just a millitary alliance for the purpose of maintaining Western Imperialism, which is headed by the US Empire.
  
  The US empire had to influence because there is a lot of historical white supremacy.
- Wait, you think it hasn't been a major global power for centuries? 😅 Oh, my sweet, summer child.
  
  nato was formed in the wake of ww2, less than one century ago, so...

Well ... it's good to see there aren't just idiots in the US
- Trump is getting played because of his fragile ego. Him sharing a message of a person stroking his ego is evidence of it working.
  
  How is he getting played by the imperialist faction agreeing to up their imperialism budget (specifically what he demanded) and praising him?

🤮

I’ve have said this before but WW3 will start because of a meme or ChatGPT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idIxeAYnLGk
NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte says he has 'no problem' with US President sharing private message
- Of course not, it was the entire idea.
  This message is so obviously sucking his asshole, they couldn't be more obvious yet Trump obviously has no idea
  The cheeto really has a long list of mental issues, doesn't he?

Career politicians doing what they do best, kissing their boss ass.

“How are you traveling to His Majesty’s dinner? Mind if I get a ride swingin from your nuts?”

My sense at this point is that grotesque flattery works on Trump, but only to a point. Trump doesn't really like anyone, the best you can do is a slightly-better-than-neutral relationship. (And at the other end he's willing to coexist with anyone who hasn't personally slighted him, like Kim Jong Un)

Oh my God I can just text the president while pretending to be anyone and shape world politics

Bootlicker.

The utterly simplistic language of it all. 🙄🙄🙄
- "in a big way", "it will be your win"
  It's ridiculous

Emperor rutte has spoken. Well deputy emperor to trump, rutte, has spoken. NATO members all agree to destroy their societies in order to boost military spending by 150%. Traitors in member parliaments will need to be executed if they object to the empire.
At least Europes war on Russia will be worth it. Every 100 years, no one left alive to remember last failure.

This make me feels somewhat awkward.

Too many MAGA assholes and bootlickers out there, good for Canada and Spain to show them the middle finger

Translation: "Thanks to your stupid politics, you managed to pull EU closer and finally decide on things for Greater good."

Good move TBH. Just like that, Trump likes NATO again.
- If Trump took the US out of NATO, he would genuinely be remembered as the harm reduction candidate for the Global South. Sadly, Trump would never actually be anti-NATO, US Imperialism depends too greatly on it.
  
  Yes, we know, you are preaching to the choir here, lemmy.ml.
  But I'd rather we not back out of NATO, decouple trade and invade friendly neighbors all while the US continues to screw over far away countries first. At this point, backing out of NATO is not going to help our bad behavior.
  After that, we can worry about not screwing with other countries so much, hopefully.
  
  f Trump took the US out of NATO, he would genuinely be remembered as the harm reduction candidate for the Global South.
  Lol no he wouldn't.
- America controls NATO. They would never dislike it.