DA says 40 UnitedHealthcare execs got bodyguards, and one dyed her hair after Luigi Mangione killed CEO Brian Thompson
DA says 40 UnitedHealthcare execs got bodyguards, and one dyed her hair after Luigi Mangione killed CEO Brian Thompson
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Oof he isn’t convicted but the media isn’t saying “allegedly” in headlines for him. Shows how they’re trying to sway public opinion.
Defense has brought it up multiple times already, it's biasing the jury pool
Was it supposed to be a direct quote from the DA? Even if so, it shouldn’t be in the headline.
Public opinion is already swayed. Luigi Mangione has become a symbol to a lot of people and as such the super-rich want to punish him.
I bet they are more scared of the symbol than they are of the thought that Mangione is innocent and the real shooter might still be free and plotting another hit.
The "real shooter" would only be one person, but a symbol has the power to create 10 or 100 more or to spark a violent rebellion and that they can't let happen.
Innocent or not, it's unfortunately Luigi Mangione they need punished in the most horrific and exemplar way possible.
I guess he's not getting a fair trial, they'll have to jury nullify the shit out of it.
That's actually very surprising - it starts with "DA says" which is presumably their defamation defense, but usually the lawyers wouldn't let that pass.
Maybe there are no editors left working at BI. This was three days ago
https://pressgazette.co.uk/publishers/digital-journalism/business-insider-cuts/
He can sue them for defamation if he wants. Legally he is innocent right now.
When the public makes you a meme for assassination and substitutes your first name for the word "assassinate", I'm going to give them a pass on dropping the "allegedly".
If the public were swayable, they wouldn't be talking about "luigiing" people.
Your pass is worthless
after Luigi Mangione killed CEO Brian Thompson
Has he already been convicted?
Terrible headline, but I can only guess that "Business insider" would rather defend a corrupt CEO than the victim of insurance hell.
There's no question the general public already believes he killed the guy, if people didn't, we wouldn't have all the Luigi memes and people using "Luigi" as a substitute for assassination.
"DA says"
A little misleading without the quotation marks
I would contribute to a GoFundMe if he wanted to sue for libel.
Youre skipping the first two words where it says “DA says”. Obviously its the opinion of the DA prosecuting him for murder that he is in fact the killer.
Yet another case of “bad headline” is just people not reading the headline
Youre skipping the first two words where it says “DA says”.
Again, the headline makes it sound as if Luigi has already been found to be the killer, which he has not.
The article could most certainly directly quote the DA saying that "Luigi is a murder", but the headline really needs to be accurate by saying:
"DA says 40 UnitedHealthcare execs got bodyguards, and one dyed her hair after the accused, Luigi Mangione, allegedly killed CEO Brian Thompson"
Journalistic integrity matters.
Sounds like the DA is going to get sued along with many others if/when the accused is found not guilty.
The media is doing this intentionally
"Luigi Mangione killed CEO Brian Thompson"
Objection, baseless speculation.
This post either needs to be removed or retitled. Luigi is not convicted and this perpetuates a huge problem in the US of assigning guilt to people through public opinion.
There is nothing here stating Mangione has been convicted of anything.
He was dead the moment he got caught. Nevermind guilty. I don't care how many technicalities or strategies his lawyer might have. There's no way in hell the powers that be will let him have anything other than being made a harsh example for all of us plebs.
This isn't about him commiting the crime of murder. This about scaring us into submission so we don't get any ideas. Even if he's actually innocent because of they don't catch the killer they can't use it as an example, so they need someone.
He's not walking. Get ready for the inevitable. Even if the word of the law is on his side they'll pull something last moment. It's really naive to think they'd ever allow themselves being made a joke by us.
If that's terrorism then what do we call the death and pain caused by pursuit of profits?
If they want to have a discussion about labels, it's not gonna go well in front of a jury.
At every step defense should be asking the jury:
If you had been killed, would this be happening? Why are lives valued differently
… what do we call the death and pain caused by pursuit of profits?
The term I've heard for this is social murder:
… an unnatural death that is believed to occur due to social, political, or economic oppression, instead of direct violence.
Free enterprise, just like the Atlantic slave trade and the genocide of the Indians.
Social murder. It's a term originally used by Friedrich Engels nearly 200 years ago, yet still relevant today. Essentially it's indirect deaths caused by capitalism. Gives some plausible deniability to the likes of United Healthcare because it's much easier to obfuscate the reason behind somebody's death when the cause was neglect or denial of life saving care.
He didn't kill anyone though. He's innocent.
I know it's uncooth to dehumanize anyone, but CEOs like Brian murdered (and the rest continuing to murder all day every day) more people than any serial killer in history because they oversaw automating the process of selling the confidence scheme and then murdering the marks when they threatened the profits of the confidence scheme when they got sick.
People like Jack the Ripper and Ted kaczynski were pathetic, inept hobbyists at mass murder next to an American "healthcare" ceo, and it isn't close.
And we don't hold them in even lower regard solely because they do it to get ever richer, which is the only practiced American religion.
As humans go, Brian was somewhere between a serial killer and an even larger scale mass murderer like Adolf Hitler in terms of his practiced inhumanity, maybe he should be dehumanized a little.
Serial killers need patterns, process, and specific situations tailored to their individual neuroses. They are driven or compelled to kill to create or recreate certain events. That’s one thing that separates them from mass murderers or spree killers.
This guy was just in it for money. Mass murderer, yes, but there have been mafia hitmen with more morals than this fuck.
The scale of this, and the callousness of it, are far closer to Hitler and other genocidal maniacs because none of them wanted to get their hands dirty; they’d never kill anyone, personally. At least serial killers are into DIY and often are quite proud of their fucked up accomplishments.
It really says something about this guy’s absolute depravity when a comparison to a serial killer makes someone say “you know, that’s offensive to serial killers.”
I’m not disagreeing with what you said, I’m just frustrated because this guy was worse than serial killers and that is really something else.
Maybe more like an Eichmann. He ran the Nazi trains on time and didn't actually kill anyone. He facilitated the process and was happy to a part of the murderous system
He took out the trash. I agree.
So how many of the execs said, “This job isn’t worth risking my life for” and quit? How many of them said, “Maybe we should examine how we do business and change.”? How many of them said, “My God. We’re killing people. I’m out.”?
Nah if literally murdering people for profit didn't stop them then really nothing will. These people are sociopaths that only see the career ladder.
Exec: Hey Claude, are we killing people?
ClaudeAI: Yes.
Exec: Are you sure? I think were doing great things for them, i don't see it as killing
ClaudeAI: Of course you aren't, you're doing great things!
Sounds like Luigi's perceived actions created jobs and fostered better health for the community at large.
Someone put this man in government
And not a single one of them paused and went "wait, maybe the choices we're making are the problem here?" Instead, it was "keep being evil, but now with bodyguards!"
They know exactly what they are doing and the choice to gun-up says everything about them. There is no other word but "evil".
Right? I was hoping more for a "16 people have quite their roles and chilled the fuck out, taking a new job where they don't have to be evil daily to maintain their positions."
But I guess they might have trouble sleeping at night, so that's alright.....
Luigi Mangione allegedly killed CEO????? Are we just dropping that now????
Well, the quote is from a district attorney, so they are pushing their narrative.
I believe that Luigi himself does not refute the act currently.
I might be wrong, but if Luigi isn’t refuting what he allegedly did then 🤷
I misremembered, he did plead not-guilty. I’d thought I read a legal theory of justified self defense as the strategy.
what defendant considered a deadly greed-fueled cartel," Seidemann wrote.
I mean, what are they, then?
Parasites who deserve to be tossed in a vat of acid?
Every individual word is true, that is the dystopian reality we live in, but even when true they're depending on it sounding too conspiratorial and therefore not credible. The nerve of these people.
40x~$75$/hr = $3000/hr they're willing to spend instead of giving you insurance you paid for
Apparently they did start approving more right after it. And now they are getting sued by blackrock, a majority shareholder, for hurting profits. As much as I dislike these CEOs, the system breeds them to be this way. And there will always be more to take thier place. But holding them accountable will also mean that doing the right thing becomes good for the shareholders.
Alls I'm saying is you'd probably save more money paying out claims over hiring full time security for 40 different executives who cant help but deny claims
Its that thing, you know? You caused a problem and instead of fixing that problem you fix the next problem.
The issue is for profit healthcare. Instead of making the choice which would remove the executives from the crosshair, they decide adding bodies between us and them is the best option. Id assume those people care about their lives not ending, and the cheapest way to do that is to provide coverage to the people paying for it. $3000/hr is not just a throwaway expense, and that was a rough estimate erring on the extremely low end of private security.
I was simply spelling out how much they're willing to pay just for the privilege of denying healthcare to Americans. That's your money (hypothetically.) They would rather spend that money on defense forces than do their fucking jobs. I understand they are being sued by blackrock, but blackrock isn't the one creating a need for private security. Interesting choice is all I can say.
Don't be giant greedy pieces of shit, you won't need body guards.
#MakeBillionairesFearAgain.
weeird that they felt comfortable nkt having them in the first place, society is healing
If your job requires armed professionals and costumes,you shouldn't be in business
Good. They should live in constant fear.
Industrialized social murder should be a dangerous profession.
Did they consider not being evil shitbags?
But the profits!!! Won't anyone think about the profits!
That sounds like a "Them" problem and has no bearing on the case Mr. DA
Have you ever tried not being an asshole?
Not once.
let me guess not one of them decided to have better business practices
There was actually a huge increase in approved claims immediately after.
Not sure how long it happened, but I remember hearing about it
Why should 40 assholes hiding from someone who is already in custody gave any bearing on his case?
My gf dyed her hair last week, must be a criminal in chains somewhere!
It's so the news media can continue to keep up this "story" of how billionaire CEOs are the real victims.....
early in the news of luigi, most of the execs were named/doxxed who control what in UHG. includes witty, hemesly and some of the bod.
Excuse me, ma'am, I'm looking for a woman that looks just like you but is a redhead. Have you seen her?
"No..."
Damn. Okay. Thanks. gunman walks off, dissapointed
"Whew, glad I dyed my hair."
I mean the easiest solution is not to work for a hostile company and a public enemy/threat.
Those companies, and that one notoriously, kill 1000's so they are a hostile enemy, actively attacking the populace.
Now I know legalese will fancy it up, but shit smells. Can't hide it.
They'll do anything to save themselves except for stop being evil.
Sometimes I wonder if those second-tier execs are even more culpable than the CEOs. Like, we expect CEOs to be psychopaths. But those second-tier guys that got a seat further down the table, off the back of a good degree and a few decades of hard work? They know what they're doing is wrong but choose to go along with it anyway because they're just following orders.
those golden parachutes awaiting them is just too addicting.
So you're saying that whoever Luigi is taking the wrap for is a job creator?
Good. Something to consider when you're making life and death decisions for other people in the future.
Job creator.
I wonder if they allowed those bodyguards access to the executive health plan for cheap, or if they hired them as contract employees so as to stiff them on any employee benefits.
usually its private company that are hired at security details like these. they do pay good for personal security guards though
Keep them afraid.
So, the options are "not milking the sick for profit" or "getting bodyguards"
All these news reports saying that Luigi killed a guy or used a 3D printed gun. As far as I know, Luigi did none of those things and that that is for the courts to decide. Further, I’ve seen plenty of posts online of people saying that he was at the bar with them when the whole thing happened.
I live in Belfast and I'm positive I seen him buying drinks in the red devil pub at that exact time. Right gerry?
He was with me shooting skeet at that time.
The sad thing is that I am sure they will pass the cost onto the customers.
Scared CEOs—finally, a guilt-free fetish.
Allegedly killed
Did any of them repent of their sins against humanity?
They systematically made millions of people fear for their lives. I'm glad shared that for a moment.
Am I supposed to care about some cunt who thinks dyeing her fucking hair should save her from her ghoulish business practices lmfao idc if there was 500, fix your outlook and practice you braindead abortions
Don't fear the populace, learn from mistakes and correct actions worthless sacks of shit
Why? Have they done something to make them feel like they were a target?
allegedly killed CEO Brian Thompson. Let's not forget that rather important bit.
I couldn’t figure out what was noteworthy about a bodyguard dying their hair…
Imagine how bad a bodyguard you are to take that job.
Why the hell do they need 40 execs? Sounds like the herd needs thinning.
I hope they live in fear. What a racket.
I also needed a bodyguard after i murdered a bunch of people's loved ones and got richly rewarded for it. Please feel bad for me.
Pfft! Hahaha! Good! Better be scared with how many people THEY murder all the time!
So it worked? Cool.
Why is no one asking what they have to hide for if they're innocent and nothing to hide.
Much like the cosplaying ICE contractors masked while carrying out their illegal & immoral orders against women , children, the disabled, the elderly & others simply because the GOP overlords don’t like their country of origin
It’s easier and cheaper to do your job to actually help people. Then there’s no worry. Or vote for Medicare for all.
Maybe the cunts wouldn’t have to live in fear if we didn’t have to live in fear. Just saying.
Fear must be new to them. Good.
They will do anything but stop destroying lives and killing people to maximize their profits.
I like how they say this as if it was a bad thing. As if the general public would have sympathy.
People in charge of setting the actuarial tables for the rest of the country don't know a black swan event when they see one
One more reason this system shouldn't be private.
Not sure they need all the cloak and dagger. It's looking more and more like whoever took out one of their piece of shit asses out was one of a kind.