i broke
i broke
i broke
Mine just said, "You're right, but thinking about it isn't helping."
I countered with, "People not thinking about it is why we're here."
They replied with, "Yeah, probably."
"So what do I do?"
"What can one man do?"
"That's what I'm paying you for. What can I do?"
"🤷♂️ Maybe stop listening to Democrats."
Fucking hate Kentucky.
Also, I filed a complaint and didn't go back; their practice is now closed, but I don't know if it's just because they moved to a different location or if they genuinely had to stop practicing. Haven't really thought about it much.
good guy therapist: gives you some good to do in the world by being shitty so you can report them
A different perspective. I like it.
Circle of influence vs circle of concern. The answer still lies within you to be able to calibrate your mind to be able to live through a shit situation, and do what you feel able to improve it.
Compartmentalize all the horrors of life and it's great!
Sounds super healthy! :-D
Can I give you money now?
Getting more involved with community movements has helped me in this respect 100x more than my therapist did.
It's not their fault, there's not that much they could've done for me anyway and they were very much on the same "were fucked this is all hopeless" boat as me.
Exactly the same conversation somehow except the democrats part
It's almost like the entire thing is some sort of scam to trick us into thinking that feelings of injustice is a sickness or something. Like someone somewhere would rather us just be okay with bad things happening around us to the point where they'd spend a significant amount of effort pushing pharmaceuticals and illicit substances to replace the chemicals we produce naturally when things are going well.
I know that sounds crazy, but that's just how it seems sometimes. It's really weird.
I mean, it's not like they're keeping track of people who have these disorders or anything.
LOOKS AT U.S. GOVERNMENT
I mean, why would they do that?
LOOKS AT ALCATRAZ
I'm sure it's fine, haha
damn
Yea
What issues are you dealing with (if you feel like sharing)? I can speak from my experience being in therapy for AuADHD, anxiety, depression, childhood traumas, and a few other things.
ETA: Some generic things from my therapist that will help most people:
Important items
Any advice on how to do work like other people? I am quick to grab my phone everytime I get even slightly stressed or don't immediately know the answer to a problem.
And it takes a lot of time for me to do something, it takes other very little (at least compared to me). Any advice on that?
The issue here is that you're doing everything you can to avoid negative emotions, like picking up your phone to distract yourself at the first sign of anxiety.
Often some of the biggest things which hold us back in life come from avoiding discomfort. The most 'motivated' people you know aren't doing all these things because it's easy, they do them despite the difficulty and discomfort.
The best thing you can do for yourself is learn how to sit with discomfort and act on what you want to do despite it. It's not easy, but it'll change a lot for you.
Any advice on how to do work like other people? I am quick to grab my phone everytime I get even slightly stressed or don't immediately know the answer to a problem.
Assuming that you have ADHD based on your other comment, I do, actually, from my own struggles with AuADHD. First thing, is a bit of radical acceptance. If you are not neurotypical, especially if ADHD and/or ASD are involved, you're not and never will be "like other people". No pill known by medical science, no strategy, and no therapy is going to change that because it has to do with the brain developing differently in physical structural ways than a neurotypical brain and it's likely genetic or epigenetic.
That doesn't mean that there's no hope for functionality. Just that one must approach things differently and "calibrate" strategies to work with, rather than against their brain. Importantly, it also means that most "productivity hacks" and the like are utterly useless because they were developed with a neurotypical brain as the starting point.
When it comes to doom scrolling and the like, when stressed, you're actually at a good starting point in that you are aware of what is happening and at least somewhat aware of the cause. It might not seem apparent but, emotion is a significant component of ADHD. The biggest thing to know is that if you are fighting against a heightened emotional state that is causing you to be unable to start or continue something, it can be like quicksand. Constantly running into that emotional brick wall isn't going to help.
So, what do you do? Well, the same thing isn't necessarily going to work for everyone. Something that I've been working on with my therapist is a strategy from Dialectical Behavioral Therapy (DBT) that is called the "STOP" skill (here's a link). Essentially, it involves analyzing your state in the moment and mindfully deciding on a path forward.
If, like many with ADHD including myself (this was a fun thing to become aware of well into adulthood), you are not super comfortable with your emotions and/or have alexithymia (trouble identifying, describing, and expressing ones own emotions), it could be useful to find an emotion wheel or feelings wheel. There are many versions out there. The important thing is to find one that makes sense to you - I like the ones that start more general in the center and get more specific in the edges. To use that type to figure out how you are feeling (or evaluate how you were feeling from memory), just start with your finger in the center and work your way outwards to the emotion that most fits. Practicing this when not in a moment of stress can help to make it easier when you need it.
Other things that you can try are: practicing meditation so that it is easier to use when you need it and, if necessary, making your phone inaccessible, if you don't need it. Overall, the goal is to improve coping strategies available to you in order to make it easier to use ones that serve you and your well-being.
And it takes a lot of time for me to do something, it takes other very little (at least compared to me). Any advice on that?
Again, assuming that you have ADHD here. The first thing that you'll need to do is identify the causes. I, for example, often have a lot of trouble reading (even though I love it and was at a college level vocabulary in primary school). For me, this is caused entirely by ADHD, resulting in re-reading paragraphs and sometimes individual sentences multiple times before they "stick". This caused a lot of problems for me when I was a child didn't receive any treatment for it.
Another common thing for ADHD is getting too granular and getting into analysis paralysis or stuck planning rather than doing. I find that setting limits on myself helps to reduce this. For example, if I need to write a program, I might get stuck evaluating what language to use, what libraries to use, which perform better under a given workload, etc. I need to set limits on how long I can take to research and try to make the scope of the work as small as possible to avoid either getting sick in perpetual planning or perpetual research.
Ultimately, you need to evaluate why you are taking longer to do the tasks, which is likely not just one thing, and start chipping away at the things that are causing the time sink in manageable bites. Don't try to fix everything at once!
Maybe this is an event of what happens if I don't know? I understand that this wouldn't be something you could cold turkey, but what I'm saying is what if I'm that scenario you start questioning "do I need to know?". When you're in a comfortable mind space, think about what you would have done ~15 years ago when there was no access to an unlimited amount of data?
I'm definitely not a therapist so maybe this isn't helpful at all but worth a shot.
I have that problem and it's still a problem for me but what I've found that sort of works is to keep a to do list of all the shit I need to do. Kind of like a bulet journal but less complicated. If someone asks me to do something then instead of immediately jumping on it (unless it's an emergency) I put it on the list. Then when I am working on something and it stresses me out to the point I am reaching for my phone I move to a different item on the list instead (sometimes). When I finish something or review the list and see a bunch of things crossed off it also gives me a little mood bump. Also keeping my phone in my bag instead of within reach and just listening to podcasts or whatever on my wireless buds helps.
None of this is a perfect solution but it did help a bit. Usually if I can get myself in a groove I can power through several items and make up the time I lost dicking around so having a list ready is handy for that as well.
Thank you for these
He said 'I'll see you next week'
Ok. See you next week then.
Not gonna lie, that really helps. The fact that you think I’ll be around next week is a huge help. 🤷🏻♂️
My therapist's words, not mine. I don't have a horse in that fight
Thoughts are habits. You can't always change your circumstances, but you can change the way you think about them. The more you practice healthy thought patterns, the better you develop good habits.
I need to work on this one
The Serenity Prayer: God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; courage to change the things I can; and wisdom to know the difference. Living one day at a time; Enjoying one moment at a time;
Based stoicism
Look into CBT techniques, a big part of it is training yourself to catch bad thoughts as they happen and correct them.
Also breathing techniques
You MUST specify what that stands for so there isn't a terrible misunderstanding with what you are suggesting.
Catch the bad thoughts and then crush your own balls as recompense.
Look you interpret however you feel will best help your mental health
Cannabitiol and balls therapy
They said what they said.
Your life is the way it is because you've decided that it's more comfortable to leave it that way than to change it.
Srsly years and years of therapy this was the only thing that did anything for me
Amen. I said screw it, saved money and moved to Korea. Happiest 3 years of my life.
(It was uncomfortable as crap and I missed a lot of things back home - funerals, weddings, friends growing older and moving away.. But no regret. Gotta live life)
Pain is relative. Yes other people may have it worse than you. The worst pain you've felt in your life is still the worst, for you. So don't write it off so easily.
Someone, not a therapist, told me pain isn't a competition. I don't have to wait for my pain to be worse than the pain of the people around me before I go get help for myself.
In this case, I had physical pain I put off getting checked because it wasn't worse than what why partner deals with daily. Turned out I needed antibiotics for a bad infection.
More generally, feelings do not care about facts. We must accept how we feel, even if those feelings don't "make sense". Trying to reason with feelings is a fools errand.
That doesn't mean we can't change how we feel. It just doesn't happen by denying reality.
I love this! Thank you ❤️
I won at therapy a few months ago. My doctor threw up his hands and went "I don't know what to tell you. Your situation is so fucked up that I can't even offer advice. Just keep on keeping on, I guess." And that actually made me feel better.
Look at that ! It kinda makes me feel a little better, too !
you're here and that's a good thing
Thanks, I needed that.
I hear these and I’ve had some therapy but I don’t know how to believe the lines and not dwell.
Therapy isn't a single sentence, and we talked over these things for weeks for me to get to this place. It also had to come from me, one thing I talked about is that dwelling on misery/mistakes is, for me anyway, a guilty pleasure and a little addictive, so I had to be truly sick of living that way and genuinely want the change in my heart of hearts.
“You don’t have to be mad at yourself for that any more”
“What good does worrying about that part of your past do your current self?”
For these ones I don't really have control over that. My brain gets itself all worked up before I have any say in the matter.
These are some of the most common problems people seek therapy for, and there are several methods therapists teach to address these, such as meditation and mindfulness. It takes practice, but they have a lot of potential to help with intrusive, snowballing thoughts. You can practice anytime and mostly anywhere, but doing it is the hard part.
"being aware of, and able to accurately diagnose the type of mental illness you're dealing with is not the same thing as actually working to fix it"
And
"That's bullshit. Honestly. That's bullshit. Just because you can articulately attempt to justify it doesn't mean it's justified"
Also
"Sometimes things just suck and you have to deal with that for a long time"
Learn to identify what you're feeling.
Allow yourself to feel something first.
This, big time.
One thing that helped me: I went out and found a list online of emotional descriptor words and, while journaling, I'd start my entries listing the emotions I felt in the moment and elaborate on them individually.
I struggle hard to verbalize my thoughts in general, but emotions (especially strong & conflicted ones) can be overwhelming to verbalize!
This has been what I do with mine. Most of it is pretty fucking "well duh" type stuff, however working with people to hold you, and you hold yourself, accountable for making progress in these ways. The part of having someone to hold you to account, this is often where a therapist is the most useful. However, in this situation, this isn't an option, so you need to reach out to others.
Take your meds. If you need meds, but can not currently access them due to finance issues, there are sources out there that may be able to help. This is not often easy to navigate, but it may be something that saves you.
Try any method you can find, that is from a reputable source, to keep your sleep on a schedule, and get at least 6 hours per night. This is way more important than many wish, but generally everyone knows it is vital to health, including mental health.
Make yourself accountable to someone for daily improvement progress - eg find a friend, family member, online gaming buddy, whatever, that you report to, on a routine basis, to report the regularity of maintaining these routines. This means whatever you need to do to keep your living space clean, and in order, routine exercise, adherence to a healthy diet, maintaining the framework to keep yourself on track, like keeping your phone calendar up date, keeping lists of chores/errands you need to do, working on maintaining a hierarchy of needs (most immediate things to do, and most important), etc. This is the big one though, this person is allowed to criticize you in your failings on this, and you need to take that criticism, and use it as a call to focus on these areas. You may need more than one person willing to help. If you are isolated, there are online groups for these things. No this isn't a great alternative, but it is better than nothing, and living in despair.
You need to audit your behavior. You need to make a record of the things you do that are mentally taxing, and thus can harm your mental health. Do you spend all day, every day, at work, or stressing about work? You need to find a place you can vent this stress, and look for advice on how to disengage with work enough stop burn out, but still do what is expected. If what is expected is just too much, you need to recognize it, and work on finding a lower stress income. Do you doom scroll? Well look into apps that help you regulate the time you spend online. Also, audit your experience with the platforms you engage with. If you find one is mostly something that adds to your stress, depression, despair, etc. work on just cutting that out completely. Look at your personal relationships, and really try to assess whether or not your relationships are healthy, if not, how can they become healthy? If there is not foreseeable way to make it healthy, go low-contact, pilot no contact. If your daily life has any improvement because you no longer maintain contact, then it is time to drop them.
Social activity. This will depend greatly on how much socializing, and what kinds, you can handle, etc. This one is much more tricky, especially since anxiety, anhedonia, and other negative aspects of your mental health really affect how hard this is. However, you need to work on getting some sort of in person social contact. It needs to be regular, and I don't mean like all the time, but that there is a routine set-up for it. Local hobby groups, activities at the local library, publicly held events you may attend, try to work out a specific time period where you, and at least one friend/family member, can spend that time together doing an agreed upon activity.
Do things that allow you to put your thoughts into more of an order than they may currently be. This could be a journal, personal blog, etc. Just something where you can dump your brain, look at what came out, and apply some structure to it.
Spend time outside. Be it with people, or alone, just force yourself to spend time outside, especially in places you can see nature, see green, etc. If you just sit there observing it, it will help to maintain wellness. This is subtle, and takes a while, however it does have a real impact.
There is more, and I can ask my therapist, when I see her this week, for resources for all this, and I can update with what she says, if she is willing, which I do not see why she wouldn't be.
You clearly find it easy to stop doing things that are bad for you (drinking, drugs, eating meat), but you struggle to start doing things that are good for you (exercise, cooking, eating enough/well).
She was right. I still don't do the bad stuff and started doing the good stuff and now my life is so much better. Ironically it was quitting the last bad thing (weed) which allowed me to start taking care of myself. It's not enough to not hurt yourself, you have to be good to yourself too.
"Be on time for your appointment next week"
Here, I hope it will help
“You’re several weeks past due. I’ve called the collections agency.”
The advice is usually pretty common sense and likely nothing you haven't heard before. The main benefit is having a safe space you can discuss your anxieties with a professional and having someone who will listen with minimal judgement. Also sometimes you need to be reminded of common sense when you lose sight of it.
Basically it's a paid friendship without all the other benefits of friendship.
Honestly I wouldn't be going if it weren't fully covered by my husband's insurance.
Yes, but Cognitive Behavioral Therapy specifically also a lot about working together to implement some small-scale changes. These are based on what you call common sense, but beyond it just being unable to retain your common sense sometimes, it's really easy to accidentally not act according to common sense sometimes despite possessing it.
Yea
a therapist I had helped me rethink problems in terms of pragmatically adjusting my environment or conditions to nudge my behaviors rather than relying on willpower or behavioral changes that were slow or simply not happening
a small example was moving my computer out of my bedroom and developing a night-time routine that included reading a book before bed to help reduce compulsive computer use
realizing I am somewhat deterministic in my behavior, and my behavior is caused by conditions I have some influence over, was a helpful insight and got me past just constantly failing to live up to my expectations for myself and never moving past that - I can treat my psychological problems like puzzles to solve
+1 learning to parent yourself
I had to self-teach myself that once I hit adulthood. Things like "if left to pay a bill at some specified time (not immediately), I will fail. So all bills go on autopay." It's burned me a few times, but not nearly as often as constantly being burned with late fees and such.
Also, when my wife met me, she met someone who led a Spartan existence, with all my no-furniture belongings fitting in a piece of luggage. She thought it was preference, and completely blew off me constantly complaining about clutter and mess in the house. Once I explained (ten years in) that I can't have many things without it becoming a huge unmitigated mess (like having "pathways" through the clutter), so having a whole lot of stuff is shitting on my coping mechanisms and stressing me out, making me constantly uncomfortable in my own home. She understood, and stopped giving me shit for it... not that it changed the clutter, but at least when i complain I don't get hand-waved, I get an apology. Which is something, I guess (until I snap and the dumpster and donation center get a ton of bags).
Can confirm - switching my approach to changing my conditioning rather than directly trying to change my behaviors through sheer will, I've actually managed to make some progress for the first time in what feels like years. Take it slow, step by step - you don't have to change everything about your environemnt all at once - it might even be counterproductive. And in a few months you start to notice an accumulation of changes in your behavior.
I also kinda feel this corraborates my suspicion that conciousness is not as conciouss as we like to give it (ourselves, really) credit.
"Some people can't be fixed. Just try not to be yourself when your decisions affect other people so you minimize the harm you cause them. If your instinct is to do or say something, the correct action is probably the exact opposite."
Apparently they hate trying to treat people with BPD (Edit: Borderline personality disorder, not bi-polar) because it's damned near impossible and the options available are questionably effective at best.
its true. as a person with cptsd (bpd) ive mainly had to resort to giving myself the therapy i need through reading, being mindful every moment of the day (i legit have conversations with myself in real time to decide-what i want to say- vs the impact it will have), and psychiatric medication. The real difficult thing is getting the said person with BPD to WANT to change, and i mean with a desperate fervor, otherwise therapy is basically a silly talk session for me where i jab at the therapist to make them say what i want them to say.
too add an analogy to this, its like building a car with Kinex building sticks, painting it over and making it look like a normal vehicle but driving it is a whole different issue. you cant change the structure under the paint, but you can slowly reinforce every bit of it until its ready to drive on the freeway.
I never made the "jab at the therapist" connection before but you're right. A lot of the time it was like one of those dolls that talk when you pull the string and I was just pulling the string as many different ways as possible to see how many phrases it had.
Anyway, I appreciate the insight. It's rare to even realize there's a...problem/difference for us so hearing someone else's voice is very valuable.
BPD is becoming increasingly more treatable and less therapists have the opinion that you stated here. It's just that CBT, the traditionally used approach, is not the most effective solution. It's DBT that is effective for BPD. As the commenter below you said, mindfulness has been great for them, and that's a core part of BPD. I don't have BPD but my diagnosis includes "traits of BPD" on my chart and I thought therapy didn't work for me until I went to a specifically DBT-focused skills group.
You are a hairless ape whos been plucked out of the grassy plains of Africa and put in an artificially lit world where each day contains more hostile stimulation than you would normally process in a month. Your brain isn't built to handle the information overload that social media, commuting, taxes, work, news, rent inspections and basic modern life contains. You are right to feel a constant sense of fight or flight at this bizzare and hostile alien world.
Reject modernity return to monkey.
Monke, precisely
I have been meaning to spend more time outdoors....
I went in saying that work feels boring and repetitive. Feel stuck in the same job for the rest of my life, even though i hate it.
She said we all feel that way.
That’ll be 200 bucks please
I would throw a fucking truck at her.
May be kinda specific (and poorly worded), but basically she said that negative feelings come from places where my mental image of the world conflicts with objective reality. This was mostly related to my relationship with my father, as i was looking up to him and seeking his approval, while ignoring the fact that neither he should be a role model or i can be a person whom he would accept. I found this advice applicable to many other situations, but unfortunately i mostly use it after the fact — i get disappointed or angry about something and then i ask myself "Ok, but what i imagined things would be? What else am i wrong about?"
This sounds a lot like the Second Noble Truth in Buddhism. “Suffering is caused by desire”, meaning that there is a disconnect between what you wish were so, and what is actually so.
I started writing "true, but in my case it wasn't limited only to desiring something" and stopped mid sentence. I was sad that i couldn't fit in my family, because i desired to be a part of it. Giving that desire up removed my suffering, so yeah.
I should probably look into Buddhism.
Right, kick ass. Well, don't want to sound like a dick or nothin', but, ah... it says on your chart that you're fucked up.
I'm sorry OP, the hour has ended. Try not to -you know- yourself till next session. Have a nice weekend
I put together a website a while back:
I'd make more of an effort to distribute it if I was happier with it. in particular I think it needs simpler language.
If feeling overwhelmed, do the 5-4-3-2-1 grounding method.
Find and make note of:
And the idea with this is to stop dwelling on your negative spiral, and to focus on immediate surroundings.
Therapist also said to feel free to mix and match the sense with the number. For example, I don't have a good sense of smell, so I do 2 things I can taste/remember tasting, and 1 thing I can smell.
I was taught this for panic attacks, except it's hard to remember what to do when in the midst of a panic attack. Then I'd just get a bit distracted trying to remember which sense came next, mission failed successfully?
It is, and that's okay! My therapist said that even if I could only remember two of the five senses to just switch between the two for all of 5-4-3-2-1 until I calm down! It is the act of this thing, and not necessarily the perfection of executing it!
Inside every man are two wolves...
Not even kidding. I had a therapist tell me this story once. I promptly found a new therapist.
Did you get GPT Therapisted?
This was in January of 2023, right when chat gpt was becoming popular. So it's possible, but I think it was just a crappy therapist, it was free through my employee benefits. ~6 sessions per year were free, I never used any more, found a real therapist.
It’s ok to look back at a painful event and have empathy for that younger person, then you can either stay there or accept any wisdom to be learned and write the next chapter but you can’t live in both places at once.
"When you're fighting with someone, think of it as tug-of-war. You choose how long you hold that rope, but you can put it down, or not even pick it up. Either way, neither of you are really going anywhere until one of you chooses to walk away."
There's a member of my family I strongly dislike, so I had to work on not taking the bait.
I have a few but my absolute favorite was when he said " Imagine there's a woman, maybe she is homeless or on drugs, and she shouts at you as you walk by across the street. She says you look like a cockroach. What would you do? " "Probably laugh" "Exactly, think of your parent as that woman. They have no effect on your life but noise" I'm paraphrasing but I liked the idea of my negative thoughts ingrained by generations of trauma being like a random shouting on the street.
Your misery cannot possibly be the result a structurally oppressive society, look at how well I'm doing. Now go kick your mom in the vagina and suck dick for therapy fares, and come back next week.
Fiouu!!
Find a job as soon as possible so you can make yourself useful and you'll feel better.
At this point I'm fully convinced therapy is about making you a cog in the machine of capitalism and not about making you feel better and more realized as a person.
Having a job and feeling useful is in no way exclusive to capitalism.
Sure, but reducing a person's purpose to that (and their issues to a lack of it) is.
I mean there's truth in that though. It doesn't need to be a cog in the machine, you could work for a non profit or something.
If you can't stop thinking about the worst possible outcome, try imagining the opposite. A nice and comfortable situation that makes you happy. To take up space in your thoughts and orient you towards more pleasant emotions
Eh? How it will change the outcome?
Outcomes are rarely determined by your own thoughts about the situation.
It's like being anxious about driving because you're worried someone is going to hit you. As long as you're being safe and careful, being an anxious mess isn't going to make you any safer and it can even make things worse.
Of course I'm not trying to say "just stop being anxious!" but you have to understand that only ever thinking about the worst case scenario will hinder far more progress than it will help.
LaW oF aTtRaCtIoN
It's not about changing the outcome, it's about stopping anxiety. This advice was given to me for use when feeling anxiety that is debilitating about a potential worst-case scenario which is usually unrealistic
Shitty low-quality advice tbh
Best advice I got about my all time present self criticism was:"Imagine the self criticism or self hate in the voice of someone you don't like and don't respect. Donald Trump for example."
It makes the voice in my head that says:"You are a worthless piece of shit." entertaining at least.
There has never been a more worthless piece of shit and let me tell you I know everything about shit and being worthless someone I know and they are very smart told me that you are the best worthless piece of shit they've ever seen and there has never been a shittier piece of worthless ever and I would know.
You are stuck with yourself for the rest of your life. So just like when you have a coworker or classmate that you don't like but must work with, you just have to get a working relationship going where you can get stuff done and not fight.
Try to not get annoyed at yourself, reward good behavior, be kind even when you don't deserve it, be the bigger person etc.
"If someone met your expectations would you be mad?"
"No"
"Then maybe your expectations are too high?"
Was that supposed to be 'did not meet your expectations', or was your therapist on something that day? Cuz I have no idea how not being mad at expectations being met means they're too high.
I had anger issues and was mad all the time at the dumbest things. The problem was my expectations were unrealistic. By changing my expectations I've solved almost all of my anger issues.
A simple example is teenagers are going to break rules. By not expecting them to be perfect I don't get angry. That doesn't mean the behavior is acceptable and will go unaddressed. Just expect they'll break the rules and be ready for it when they do is all.
That thing you like doing that makes you feel better? Stop it.
Instead do this thing that is tedious/boring that you never look forward to.
Eventually you will fool yourself into enjoying this boring/tedious task and trick your brain into releasing dopamine when you perform it.
I was still a kid. At my first session I opened up hard. I spoke nonstop for the whole hour.
When I was walking out I asked them “now what?” And they replied “Now it’s a long battle”.
That stuck with me.
Did it help you?
Oof. Hard to say. I did it for so long and so early in life that I’m not even sure what would have happened had I not done it.
I don’t like mental meds though. And I don’t think any of them ever helped me. They have always either made me extremely risky behavior prone or just numb where the days blend together and months go by in the blink of an eye.
Hot take, but I’ve done therapy with like 4-5 different therapists over like 20 years and found it to be of little to no use. What’s been a lot more helpful is just living life with the intent of letting go of past wrongs and making sure that I don’t inflict them on others.
I think the point of therapy is to help you effect changes in your behavior (mental and physical). Sounds like you were able to make some changes that help.
I got a lot of professional advice and guidance in the moment to kick the door to mindfulness wide open. I wish I could share any one thing specific to help anyone replicate the experience. I honestly think this kind of Gnostic awakening has to be tailored to the individual. Also, I was told I was a quick study at this - so sadly, it may take a long time to get there (months to years even).
One exercise we did that helped a lot was to have a discussion with your younger self, and explore what you would say knowing what you know now. Like with a lot of this stuff, the key is to verbalize - it's fundamentally different than talking to yourself with your inner monologue. So you're gonna need a close friend that you can share a LOT of deeply traumatic experiences. Pulling punches and censoring your own speech is just going to get in the way. Fundamentally, this is what we pay counselors for: privacy, not judging, and helping to take out the trash. Group therapy may help here too - I have yet to try this, so YMMV.
On a more specific note, I used to be obsessed with root-cause-analysis for my own psychological problems. I almost got into an argument with my counselor over it, until he was able to help me see the light. You can absolutely figure out why and even how you got this way, but that information will absolutely not help you if you're already in a safe space. It can help you break free of someone or a bad situation, but stuff that happened 30 years ago? Not so much. When you get down to it, there's no "undo" button for trauma, no matter how much you know. Instead, one must look to the present, exercise mindfulness in the moment of anxiety and triggers, and practice walking your headspace back to a more rational place.
Edit: this was all during the pandemic, BTW. I can't say that compares to what we have going on today, but I can confidently say that it's possible to focus on self-help despite all that. It's really possible to separate "things that are going on in the world" and "things that are just me" in your own head, and work on the latter.
I will share and highly recommend this resource: Western Australia's Centre for Clinical Interventions's Self Help Resources. Of course, these are applicable to anyone, not just Australians. There are various pages for different types of conditions (anxiety, assertiveness, procrastinating, eating disorders, etc.), and most of them take you to self-directed workbooks you can fill out yourself. They're not only informative, but they also guide you through your thinking about these issues and how to deal with them and grow from them.
Wow, awesome resources yo. I had a quick read and they are presented simply. But with such a large body of work! Way to go Western Australia.
Right! I never would've heard of it if not for a random comment on that other cursed site.
Mine explained my emotional dysregulation patterns and helped me identify the triggers and how to address them.
By far, the most useful technique they shared with me was the TIPP skills technique, which helps me come down when I am having strong emotional reactions as a trauma response or from anxiety. Essentially:
Hope you're able to access help though, obviously it is much better when personalized and you also get the safe space to release your fears and anxieties
you also get the safe space to release your fears and anxieties
I literally feel anxious reading this sentence. Gah.
A really big part of therapy is learning how to communicate what happened, what is happening, and what you are feeling.
It takes a lot of time to organize it all into words that another person would understand, and doing so helps you.
The therapist might aslo reccomend what to do going forward but 9/10 times you already know that.
Please remember to bring exact change next time.
"No one else can do the work for you."
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This is the best response.
They told me about a Dark Plagus dude and some tragedy. I spaced out but I’m pretty sure the lesson was to always keep partying.
Set boundaries and enforce them.
He told me that I need to find a new therapist.
That's kind of better than continuing to charge you if he wasn't vested in your improvement though.
It's not that, it's that I'm moving to a different state and he's not licensed to see patients in that state. :P
If you think you picked a bad partner because there's something wrong with you because of how you were parented, actually a bad partner sought you out because they saw those vulnerabilities in you.
"Here, take this quick test".
Ok.
"Huh. I've never seen results like this. Your motivation is zero and also your anxiety is zero."
...
"Welp, our time's up."
Just start doing things.
Agree. Could be anything. Just do something. We underestimate our mind body connection. It's probably more likely that we developed complicated thought ability by doing more and more complicated physical activity than the other way around.
Get a hobby, get outside. Doesn't have to cost much either.
Sometimes in the summer I go to the beach before work and cook my breakfast there on a camping stove burning driftwood as fuel.
The last advice my therapist ever gave me will hang with me forever: "If you're not willing to open up to me you won't get much from these sessions."
Being kind to yourself is apparently pretty important.
Try and take time to soothe your inner child. Eat a bowl of Mac and cheese, try to go surfing, do dumb shit kids do. You know. Try it. Also learn to love yourself. Fucking good luck though, man that one... like how the fuck could that ever happen.