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‘He’s underwater on everything:’ Fox News host breaks down Trump approval polling

www.independent.co.uk ‘He’s underwater on everything:’ Fox News host breaks down Trump approval polling

The president’s approval rating has been struggling for at least a month

Summary

A Fox News host, Jessica Tarlov, highlighted Trump's declining approval ratings, citing a new Quinnipiac poll showing 53% of voters disapprove of his second-term performance.

Trump is "underwater on everything" including economy, federal workforce management, Ukraine-Russia policy, and trade relations with Mexico and Canada.

The polling slide comes amid stock market tumbles, federal worker layoffs, and trade tensions.

Tarlov noted that Republican members of Congress are facing hostile town halls where constituents are challenging them on federal workforce cuts, including at the VA. Some Republicans have dismissed these angry constituents as "paid actors."

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On the one hand, I support a politician who does the right things despite public opinion. Fuck approval ratings. On the other hand, how can a single person be wrong about fucking everything? Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
- I mean depends on how you look at it. In many ways, the world NEEDS to get off it's dollar addiction. Having a hegemonic currency isn't great for humanity as a whole. And Trump is doing the very best I've ever seen at helping the world cure itself of this problem. Not great for USA, but an important step for how geopolitics will work moving forward. Unless you meant doing everything wrong for Americans, then yes, Trump is awful.
  
  It’s pretty destabilizing globally too. I don’t see the dollar addiction going anywhere; it’s just changing currencies.
  
  We really don’t need China or Russia (or KSA or EU) calling the shots globally either.
  
  I don't know, I think what will just end up happening is china's "dollar" taking its place instead
  
  We're just going to end up exchanging one superpower for another, it's not going to fundamentally fix the problem. For that you'd need to do it more sensibly
  
  This is one of my favorite comments ever, I've been saying this for years, the strong dollar economics was the best deal ever for us, and we are throwing it away. The rest of the world will be fine without us.
- He stopped penny minting. I'm sure he accidentally did one other good thing for the adage to be true
  
  He destroyed the American Empire too, but that feels like giving Hitler credit for shooting Hitler.
  
  But the penny thing is still sinister and petty. He signed the bill to put new portraits on coinage, including a woman on the penny. Then he destroyed the penny so there still would only be men on coins.
- There's a difference between being a populist and actually representing your constituents, which is after all the job they're paid to do.
- Not if it's digital.
'He's underwater on everything' - except the one way that matters the most.
- I’ll take “Things you can’t say on Reddit” for 200
  
  But seriously, even if he was sleeping with the fish the r’s are still a huge a problem. He’s just the front guy, he’ll be replaced with another clown.
  
  Sadly, yes. I mean, Trump knows he's 'close' to his grave and needs to leave some kind of legacy - even if it's the Hitler kind of one - his narcissistic self just wants to enter them history books as one of the big humans instead of 'another rich guy' as a footnote.
  
  Pretty sure either Elon or Vance are already lined up for when the time comes. When Trump leaves the world, and when there's no longer actual rules preventing them from taking over and 'fixing' under martial law what big bad orange wrecked. At least according to them, that is.
  
  No matter how bad what they're doing seems this is just the preparation stage. Things can become so, so much worse, and the more we let them consolidate power the tougher it'll be to fight it later.
- Someone should start telling him no one has visited the titanic and he could be the first.
  
  Call OceanGate. They can provide the submarine. They have the EXACT experience we need.
- His nose is still above water?
  
  Entire head I'd say.
- He just bought a Tesla, and with any luck that'll drown him like it did Angela Chao, the billionaire magnate whose brother in law is Mitch McConnell.
  
  Angela Chao: Shipping billionaire intoxicated when she drowned in Tesla, police report shows - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68622898
  
  The American taxpayers just bought a Tesla, you mean. Cheeto will never set foot in that, and he sure as hell didn't pay for it himself.
  
  I'll never understand how investigations weren't launched over that shit
- I'm pretty sure his approval rating in Kremlin is soaring.
What's absolutely crazy is he just signed an EO to get rid of USAGM...

For those who don't know, that's basically the propaganda arm of the US government and has been for a very long time.

This is probably the most surprising thing so far for me, I really thought he'd expand that to do more work domestically to counteract all the bad press and approval loss his actions are resulting in.

Like, I get why Putin doesn't want the rest of the world to like us, but it's just crazy they're getting rid of USAGM instead of just changing the propaganda it spreads.

Actually kind of relieved to see it shut down, this is a weird morning.
- he's very dumb
  
  Genuinely, though, it is hard to gauge at times which actions are:
  
  Genuinely malicious plans to increase his and his cronies' wealth
  
  Confused, because Elon or Trump were in a specific mood that particular day
  
  Some actor behind the scenes manipulating them by taking advantage of their impulsivity
  
  The genuine incompetence of the newly appointed loyalists (or the algorithms/AI they use) within the new deep state
  
  Genuinely ideologically motivated stupidity, from Libertarians that drank their own cool-aid within the administration.
  
  It is genuine chaos. But overall, the effects are pretty disastrous, no matter what exactly causes which actions.
- Sounds like Elon is eliminating competition to his propaganda machine.
- Is it crazy when they can just use companies like TruthSocial and Twitter?
- Get rid of all branches and implement your own with your own swamp creatures.
- I'm looking at Trump as a Russian agent who was assigned to dismantle the US government. Everything he does makes sense when you look at it that way. And it's horrifying.
  
  LOL Russian agent, look at the conspiracy guy, don't fall off the flat earth
- I see your point, and assume the logic (if there is any) is: Why bother when Fox and Newsmax do it for profit?
- Shutting it down is harder to reverse under another president (god-willing).
  
  This is like why putin put the bug in his ear about tariffs, it divides the west, leaving a regional power like Russia free to consolidate power everywhere.
  
  Remember, Wagner is very powerful in Africa, where the voa and its siblings are most active.
Am I the only one who thinks 53% of people disapproving of his performance is actually a pretty good record for him. This number should be in the 90's.
- You have to take into account that at least 30% of the total are likely "Trump is sent by God and is devinely inspired and therefore can do no wrong" crowd. So when his disapproval number hits 70% that's as high as it'll go.
  
  Except I thought he was only elected by 31% of the public and at least a small portion of them are turning against him too. Remember a lot of people didn't vote.
- I think if you give it a month or two that number is going to change significantly. Most people haven't really started to feel/see the consequences of his actions yet, and there is a bit of a lag.
  
  This is very optimistic for the devotion behind a cult. People are already used to sacrificing for an oligarch.
  
  I hope you're right and it ends this whole shit show.
When the UK last had a moron setting everything on fire she was outlasted by a lettuce.

Americans need to up their game.
- Sadly the US system is not designed to oust the president that easily. It would be a first if Trump was removed from office due to the impeachment process, removing the prime minister is a much lower bar.
  
  Impeachment should theoretically work but when the system was put in place it didn't account for an entire political party turning fascist
- You suggesting a cabbage?
  
  How strong is your cabbage game?
- Sadly there isn't any equivalent to a non-confidence vote in US politics.
"What Fox just reported is illegal."
-- DJT
- Soon to be former Fox news host Jessica Taylov.
He's not underwater where it really matters, physically.
- Right? Now do his head.
People when the world's most illiterate celebrity does all of the dumb, racist shit he says he is going to do:
His next plan will be to start a war
- Invading panama
  
  Or Greenland, or Canada, or Mexico... Truly a winning strategy to threaten everyone all at once. 🙄
- I don't see him starting a war without complete control of the military. While they are working on it, firing leadership, changing rules and policies, the military still has the power to say no to Trump, which is bad TV. Trump is also a removed as seen by the wishy-washy way he approaches tariffs, he hates actual action because he just wants good TV and bad policy makes for bad TV.
Some Republicans have dismissed these angry constituents as "paid actors."

SOROOOOOOOOS!

shakes tiny fist
For a fascist disapproval of a slim majority definitely isn't "underwater" just a "minor inconvenience".
Approval ratings only impact elections
- Yes and no. It's really hard to boast about your "mandate" when a large and still increasing portion of the population publicly hates your guts and thinks you're doing a shit job. It's not enough by itself to meaningfully hurt him, but it does make him look bad and undermine his leadership. It is bad for his image, and image is an important component of power.
  
  It's also bad for his ego and could potentially lead him to behave even more erratically in ways that are ultimately self-destructive. Narcissists famously don't do well in the face of being perceived negatively. The worse his ratings get, the more humiliating it will be for him. It is important to hurt their morale at every opportunity, even if it's not nearly enough to stop them on its own. Demoralized, defensive MAGA will always be a weaker foe than energized, popular MAGA.
  
  Idk I've always noticed he doesn't give AF about reality. He just lies and if called out he just doubles down on his lies until he breaks the electorate and he gets elected again.
  
  I used the same strategy to hide that I was smoking weed to my parents.
- Until suddenly they impact everything.
declining approval ratings, citing a new Quinnipiac poll showing 53% of voters disapprove of his second-term performance

Another Quinnipiac poll from last month determined 45 percent approved of Trump’s performance and 49 percent disapproved.

So half of the people still approve of what he's doing? How does such a small percentage even justify a news article with such a ridiculous headline? The US are so cooked it's not even funny. Wake me when it's at 90% disapproval.
- What stands out to me is that they are making a big deal out if a small change...to a Republican approval rating. This is exactly the type of data they'd be holding up while screaming about how bad Obama is, for instance. Did feel odd using the tactic against their own, let alone god emperor Cheeto.
  
  They're probably trying to take control of the party back from Trump. They did push back against him during his first term, but fell flat on their faces and started losing viewers to Newsmax. Now they're trying to back it with data. They've spent the last few decades training their viewers to ignore data, though, so we'll see how that goes.
- I would assume most people don't pay particular attention until they are directly affected. Apathy across the West is a major problem.
- I've never heard of that polling agency in my life before. I had to look it up, it's a private university in Connecticut.
  
  I sure didn't get polled about any of this.
  
  So no, more precisely, half of all people polled by this one school in a state that nobody talks about approve of what he's doing. I'm willing to bet half of those people have no idea what's going on.
  
  I have a very hard time believing that half of all Americans are happy and content with current events. I live here, I hear people complain.
  
  Do you honestly believe good polls call everyone for a poll, or that they need to to get good results?
How long before Trump wants her fired?
I wonder - what is the actual audience for approval rating polls?

The folks most affected by high prices or mass layoffs are probably struggling too much to have the time or inclination. Around 30% of the country didn't even show up for the election, they probably won't show up for these.

Who does that leave us with? Can we really assume that '47% approval' translates to '47% of all Americans approve'?
- It's not actually a two answer only poll, you can view it HERE
  
  In Quinnipiac University's February 19 poll, 45 percent approved, while 49 percent disapproved and 6 percent did not offer an opinion and in Quinnipiac University's January 29 poll, 46 percent approved, while 43 percent disapproved and 11 percent did not offer an opinion.
  
  In today's [March 13th] poll, Republicans (89 - 9 percent) approve of the job Trump is doing, while Democrats (96 - 2 percent) and independents (58 - 36 percent) disapprove.
  
  EDIT: Formatting error
  
  Placing him at a roughly 30% approval overall, innit?
Jokes on them, he's not doing this for the American people.
- “I already got your votes. Fuck you.”
  — Donald
Well, a month ago a majority still approved... so I guess it's a tiny minuscule progress? One eaten face at a time?
Can we stop bullying transpeole now and admit maybe it actually IS Trump that's the problem?
- Ppl always need someone to blame for complicated problems or to down play true issues. If it's not Trans it'll be lgbtq, black ppl, Muslims, Latinos, Natives, etc.
I mean none of this matters he was popular on one night and that is all that counts.
He has a positive approval rating in both houses of congress and the Supreme Court.

Also among mentally unstable billionaires.

Which is all that matters in reality.
I wonder why he is doing just like he said he would.
You know what would be dope tho is if he were underwater in a swasticar.
wake me up when it's the 100% it should be
- Rip
Poor polling only matters if there'll be elections.
- Eventually, it will get bad enough that it matters regardless.
  
  Especially in a country as heavily armed as the US.
Good
Hell must be freezing right now with FoxNews even calling out Trump. With tumbling stock market, I did not think that "voting with your wallet" actually works.

I am more curious as to what will Democrats do next in light of Trump admin's first hundred and more gaffes. Will the Democrats learn from their mistakes and reform? Or will they exploit Trump's gaffes like during Covid, but learn nothing and the Republicans will field someone worse for the next election (assuming there will be a next election)? Or, at worse, will Democrats continue to enable Trump like they are now with Chuck Schumer?
I'm very sorry to hear this. In the past, the thing that a poor leader could do to remain in power was to start a war. Then the leader could spout all the "don't change horses midstream" rhetoric to remain in power rather than being replaced. The only thing that will stave off war would be his incredible narcissism and refusal to believe "fake" polls. Once he's convinced, however... who's the lucky recipient of an invasion?
- Oh, he's been wanting to start a war regardless. The only question is, who is he going after first - Panama, Denmark, or Canada?
"The president’s approval rating has been struggling for at least a month"

He's only been in office 53 days... so struggling 56.6% of the time... at least.
That leave - at least - 47% of nazis in the USA. Already too much, this country needs to be wipe out, with the exception of the First Nations, the real people to whom this territory belongs.

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