AOC condemns Chuck Schumer for caving to Republicans on funding bill
AOC condemns Chuck Schumer for caving to Republicans on funding bill
Chuck Schumer supports bill, but AOC and Nancy Pelosi warn against Republican legislation as shutdown looms
Summary
Democratic divisions intensified as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Nancy Pelosi sharply criticized Chuck Schumer for supporting a Republican-led funding bill to avoid a government shutdown.
AOC called Schumer's decision a "betrayal," urging Senate Democrats to reject the legislation backed by Trump and Elon Musk. Pelosi called the bill a "devastating assault" on working families.
Schumer defended his stance, arguing a shutdown would empower Trump and Musk further.
The controversy sparked suggestions among Democrats that AOC might challenge Schumer in a primary.
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Challenge him. He's has no business being a party leader if he's as spineless as the Republicans who pushed this bill.
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She would have to be in the senate to take over senate leadership in the short term. For his seat itself, there's been house members - including moderates - starting to support the idea her primarying him when his term is up in 2028
Several members — including moderates — have begun voicing support for a primary challenge to Schumer, floating Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and Dan Goldman (D-N.Y.) as possible candidates, three House Democrats said.
https://www.axios.com/2025/03/14/house-democrats-angry-chuck-schumer-shutdown
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Spinelessness is the chief defining quality of the entire Democratic Party. There are very few individual exceptions and those people need to start a new party. The US needs a real progressive party. The establishment Dems have made it very clear they won’t support a true progressive candidate, so what’s the point of bending the knee to these fuckers any longer?
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And honestly now is the time to do it. I have absolutely zero faith we will have honest elections in the next couple decades so splitting the funding between neo lib corpocrats and an actual progressive party for the people will not affect the crooked elections under trump since they won’t win anyway. The time for progress is NOW
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Take his seat TAKE HIS SEAT TAKE HIS SEAT
For real girl, you can take him in the primary. You can do it.
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Primary Schumer, of course, but his term is up in 2028. AOC herself might be more focused on a separate race that particular year.
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probably keeping her seat is more important than abandoning it.
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Schumer's argument is shit. They're going to go after government agencies with or without the funding bill. With the finding bill they get to choose. Without it they have to shut down everything. Passing that bill means they get more maneuvering room, not less.
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And with a shutdown the Dems would get to shout about 'the GOP shutdown' for however long it lasts which would also help to galvanize the public against MAGA.
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Apparently it's only "compromise" when it aligns with corporate interests. When it's about the benefit of the people, it somehow becomes "extremism".
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If Pelosi AND AOC agree on something, no one in the party has any business disagreeing. Schumer should resign over this moronic take.
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This is exactly what my first thought was. If Pelosi and AOC are agreeing on something, the other side is being really really stupid.
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Theres an argument to be made that Pelosi is only agreeing because she knows that her agreement won't do anything.
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schumer probably has the same megadnors as the gop, hence hes the first to cave. and the 10 dinos as well. fetterman was the obvious one.
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Jefferies and Schumer need to step down. This is pathetic.
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Cuck Schumer
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Cloture is by no means a certainty yet: If your senator hasn't stated their position yet, there's still time to call them. With any luck, this will be the beginning of the end for Cowardly Chuck's leadership.
Edit: specifically saying "Vote no on cloture" tells them you're highly engaged and highly likely to vote.
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I finally got someone on the phone at Hickenlooper's office this morning. They're saying he's now committing to voting no on cloture, which he wouldn't confirm at his town hall a couple days ago, so this is absolutely accurate. Getting engaged works people. You just gotta make sure they're more afraid of us than they are of the Oligarchs, and our advantage is numbers. Overwhelm them.
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I hope she primaries him. Vote all those decrepit elders out of office.
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Unfortunately, he's not up for reelection until 2028, at which time he'd be 78 years old, so probably wouldn't be running anyway.
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The naivety of the old guard feels akin to the council in Mass Effect 1 dragging their feet while Saren plows ahead unobstructed.
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ME1 had more political messages in it than people realize.
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The only silver lining here is the remote possibility of progressive Democrats breaking out to form their own party. At least then the US will have a legitimate opposition party.
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You realize this was your last election right? It's not going back to normal.
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I guess we will see won’t we. I’m still voting in 2026 and 2028. I’m not going to be discouraged by all the nihilists on the internet that are trying to convince me I’m powerless. Maybe I’ll find that process is finished but I’m not rolling over or giving up. Hell you could be a Russian bot trying to make us feel apathetic about voting by just vaguely going … “ you guys realize it’s all over right ? Yea keep on sucking on that copium pal! 😈”
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Yeah they had their last election, ever, back in November. If they ever hope to get election back, they'll need to actually fight for it instead of sitting on their butts.
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We will NEVER make progress by compromising with those who will not compromise with us in return.
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About half the seated Democrats right now need to be primaried hard. How did we have a more coordinated opposition party during Trump's first term? It's worse this time around and they are showing absolutely no will to fight.
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what are you supposed to do? The congress controls the budget, literally as defined by the constitution, the executive is currently trying to pretend that isn't the law. And the supreme court doesn't exactly seem content about doing anything over it, so it's not like you can do much as the congress. You literally can't win here, we have to wait for all the lawsuits to hit for anything to begin happening.
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what are you supposed to do?
Schumer went from "we have to be a united front" to "I'm gonna vote for what republicans want!" He pretended to hold the former position for less than a day.
So uh, not that.
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Hmm, yes, it's almost as if we have a government that isn't functioning and there seem to be no options that are legal under the current government...
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When I first met her, she was slinging margaritas at a Mexican restaurant near Union Square. It was the best part of the time between classes I had at Parsons.
Sadly, because I lived in Brooklyn, I could not vote for her, although she has been one of the greatest young progressive voices in our government in nearly a century.
Saying that “I wish her all the best” doesn’t come close. I want her to be president someday, very very soon.
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Screw Schumer. If there’s one thing that might bring some people away from Trump - it’s having the government shut down for no discernible reason for an extended amount of time. Could be the last shot at doing things here the legal way
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As she should, and Every. Single. Member! Do better “America” or should I say “The illegal 1% trash”.
“Public servants cannot and will not use their public status to increase their own personal wealth”
SAID NO GOVERNMENT MEMBER EVER! They are not “for the people” they have more money than most will see and clearly they only care about themselves! Fuck ALL OF THE GOVERNMENT MEMBERS and actually clean the fucking swamp from greed and idiocracy! We deserve better!
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The fucking dems better wise the fuck up and run her in 2028. If we have a fucking 2028 election.
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They're not going to run a woman in 2028.
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They're not going to run a progressive and will fabricate any excuse necessary.
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It's already gonna be newsom.
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Newsome is a slimy dirtbag, like every other current Democratic leader. And I say that after voting for Kamala. AOC and buttigiege are the only two I would vote for.
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Or Buttigieg.
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this comment was pointless, there's no point arguing with you. just know that calling other leftists zionists out of pocket is a shit thing to do. you tear the left apart and make other leftists mad when you do shit like that. believe it or not, when you baselessly accuse someone of being a Zionist, they don't react very nicely. try not being a dick in the future :3
real shit I liked seeing you on posts before that, but now that I know you accuse anyone who doesn't like the correct dictatorships of being a zionist, you just piss me off. don't be so pointlessly antagonistic towards other leftists who agree with you on almost everything, is that really too much to ask?
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AOC needs to form a new party or at least go independent with Bernie. I'd really like an alternative to the Democrats because I'll never be voting for them again.
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I saw that Schiff and Padilla opposed cloture and the GOP spending bill. Called their offices to vocalize my support.
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The Republicans need at least 7 Democrats to side with them on cloture. Schumer is just going to embarrass himself if he votes for cloture and enough Dems hold out for it to fail.
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Honestly, I hope it happens. He needs to own this shit all by himself. Get fucked Chuck.
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This would ultimately be the best case scenario, which is why I don't think it'll happen. I highly suspect that they'll get the votes they need to pass the CR--which is incredibly unfortunate.
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Or if he's the deciding vote.
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Democrat voters are tired of compromising. MAGA thinks they want to burn the US down so they can "own the libs" ... well let's fucking do it. Let's test their theory in the laboratory of life.
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His vile cowardice is something I'm seeing people talk about, but the sheer stupidity of it isn't touched on.
CHUCK. HE IS GOING TO FUCKING KILL YOU! THE D NEXT TO YOUR NAME MAY AS WELL BE THE STAR OF DAVID ON YOUR CHEST YOU DUMB FUCK! DICTATORS DO NOT LET "OPPOSITION" PARTY MEMBERS LIVE. NO MATTER HOW HELPFUL THEY WERE IN GIVING THEM POWER!
Like are you fucking stupid?
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it's a lose lose, you either push the funding through, and lock in existing funding, and bypass any weird shutdown bullshit, or you push for a government shutdown where (apparently) the executive can just make up funding numbers and start moving money places.
So, take your pick:
- do something: Maybe everything fucking explodes
- do nothing: everything is already exploded, but we're atleast aware of what's happening
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I read Schmuck Chumer for a second
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sharply criticized Chuck Schumer called Schumer’s decision a “betrayal”
That’ll show him.
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Losing in shutdown game and keep doing the same again. The lack of imagination of aged DEM is worrying.
One thing you got to give Trusk some credits is he dares to put wild unpopular ideas into action, which mostly strengthened his position, not weaken it. You got to be innovative if you want to beat him, repeating old failure is not an option.
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No "SLAM" this time?
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We can't afford slamming anymore
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Any dem that has been in an elected position longer than 10 years is the cause of this.
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What's still not clear to me is what the plan is if the CR is not passed. Republicans control the overall agenda in Congress. What I fear would happen is Republicans would start to fund the government bit by bit, starting with the bits they like the most.
Then in 3 months, when the Department of Education and other things are still not funded, Republicans can say "See! Democrats wouldn't let us open it. It's all AOC's fault!", and the public would buy it.
If there were a clear path to a better deal by shutting down the government, I'd be all for it. Go ahead, downvote me if you want, but I'm more interested in knowing how I'm wrong about this. If your response is "we need to stop this because it's awful", that's fine, but how does stopping it lead to something better?
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Voting no on this CR is not voting for a shutdown. It's voting for a different CR. Voting yes is giving up without a fight and giving Trump whatever he wants. This is the first chance since the election for the Democrats to oppose Trump through official channels, and Schumer rolled over immediately. If they do nothing now, we already have a one-party autocracy.
Appeasing fascists is a time-tested losing strategy. If the choice is between shutdown and give Trump whatever he wants, I think the answer should be clear. Trump is already speed running a federal collapse. Might as well deny him the damage he would do in the interim.
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If they wanted a shutdown, they have every ability to make that happen. If a couple of House Republicans opposed it, it would have failed to pass. They didn't because people are going to blame Republicans for it (or at least were before Schumer mucked up the story).
And they can't fund it bit by but. The executive can decide how to allocate remaining funds and order some people to work without pay, but turning stuff back on for the long term takes Congress and the Republicans have a single budget vote this year that can be Republican-only.
Finally, if this was the end conclusion of The Adult In The Room, all of it was true before the House voted. This isn't the end game of a serious thinker, this is Schumer blowing up the game after his colleagues have already taken the risk of voting no across the board. He should be fired for that alone.
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Leave the Democratic party AOC, and enough people will follow that we can maybe actually make a difference.
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What a colossally terrible idea that is completely detached from where the average American is politically these days.
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What a colossally terrible idea that is completely detached from where the average American is politically these days.
Or.. hear me out.. It was a colossally terrible idea to not do this after the ratfucking of 2016. Or the ratfucking 0f 2020. Or the ratfucking of 2024. It was a colossally terrible idea to leave the clearly incapable managers of the Democratic party in place, and in lieu of replacing them, which doesn't appear possible, to identify and adopt strategies that go around them.
We've done orders of magnitude more damage to ourselves by continuing to support Democrats when Democrats do not support us, in anything other than meaningless performative bullshit.
Getting off heroine is hard. Alcoholism detox can kill you. But not dealing with either of those things isn't a solution to the problem.
The Democrats are not your freinds. They aren't even your allies. They are a tool preventing you from having access to power and to prevent us collectively from making the kinds of changes that can kill fascist movements in the crib by not allowing the legitimate conditions that permit grievance politics to persist.
By occupying the space where real change, where an authentic attempt to better the lives of people would be, Democrats are a tool to prevent the addressing of the fundamental problems we have in society. Leaving these issues unaddressed give fascists legitimate grievances to co-opt into these kinds of racist and fascist movements.
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As someone that never trusted either party, this is the one way to get my vote.
The Dems are 80% dusty skeletons desperate to simply stay in office. They don't do a single thing in the interest of the people, otherwise this whole thing wouldn't be an issue. F them and F the GOP twice as hard. They are very much also a part of how we all ended up here.
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This is TDD we're talking about. One of the louder more prominent blue maga screechers. Who still hasn't realized or just doesn't care that they were made a fool of and used. That has massive dreams and whose failures are even larger than those dreams. Blasting themselves in the foot all the way down.
TDD is third party ride or die. They know that that is where it's at. They're only 7% away from breaking 10% in national elections that's so close! Only another 40 to 50% for them to win an election. That's practically nothing! Why would anyone want to reclaim the Democratic party. Use it's brand recognition and reputation with the average person build strength and coalition. It's got cooties! /S
That's the level of logic you'll get in any responses from them.
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This idea had some merit two years ago but it’s too late. And trump proved that you can take over a party if your tribe is popular enough.
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The claim has been that this idea is always 2 years too late since Jesse Jackson.
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I am an Independent and think both sides suck on the whole political spectrum in this country. I'm also from NY and both of my Democratic senators voted to pass this blank check to Trump and Elon.
The Democrats have gone about dealing with Trump and his disciples in Congress the completely wrong way from day one. They try to be civil and favor the traditional ways of solving things in Congress. They have basically been bringing a pink plastic toy baseball bat to a gun fight this whole time that Trump has been in office this term.
And because of that, here we were with 2 horrible choices for them. But one choice would have shown that they had enough of the B.S. and had some kind of a spine. The "right" thing for Chuckie to do was to be united and stand firm that they wouldn't approve this CR and force a shut down unless they had a say in some of the solutions in the bill. Pain was coming either way, why not go down fighting and show that you were on the right side of history?
Given the past month and a half (holy shit it feels like it's been a decade) and the track record of Elon and Trump so far, I am very afraid of what is coming in the next month and a half -- let alone when this budget fight resumes in September.
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The same New York Democrat machine behind all the establishment Democrats put AOC there too. Meet the new boss same as the old boss.