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Sorry, but this is a bit too much of #thathappened for me.
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ThatHappened is a flat circle. Sometimes things are so conveniently contrived looking that they did really happen. Truth is stranger than fiction.
The most believable part is that is what a Rogen fan would say.
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maybe it's less of a flat circle and more of a downward spiral.. or maybe things are just getting more and more stupid every day.. or maybe it's a cyclical decline.. or maybe THE PRESIDENT IS SELLING CARS AT THE WHITE HOUSE
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Maybe. But i've never actually met or talked to anyone that says shit like that. Do you guys discuss podcasts like this with friends, or even worse, randoms? It's like taking about some reality show or something, who cares what an idiot has to say about a subject. It boggles my mind.
This kind of wordvomit has to be related to close to 2 decades of 140 character limit "discussions" online. I never understood why anyone would want twitter, and i get a greater feeling of justification in my belief for every day that passes.
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I hate to say this, but this is one of the most Reddit flavoured “thathappened” posts I’ve seen on lemmy
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One negative thing about Reddit's slow downfall is that all the same shitty actors will start to come over here and employ their same old boring karma farming tactics. Hopefully the way lemmy is federated keeps things from getting too shitty. Reddit's corporate overlords are getting more and more controlling. On lemmy, at least for now, you can just hop instances if you start getting cranky.
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My best friend's uncle's ex girlfriend was there and she said everyone clapped as well.
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The husband? Albert Einstein.
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Idk, the US is currently run by a Nazi admirer who is famous for bankrupting businesses, yet hosted a celebrity reality TV series about running a business, and while being a known adulterer is somehow generally supported by Christians in the country.
That doesn't even begin to get into the DOGE shit show... Reality right now is a massive #thathappened
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"And then everyone around us stood up and clapped at my husband's response."
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yup. story's total bullshit.
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Everyone clapped. It was awesome. Completely owned the guy.
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"Did you just invoke 'intellect' and 'Joe Rogan' in the same breath?"
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Joe Rogan is fairly intelligent compared to some of his guests
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but then again, so is a bottle of lukewarm seltzer water.
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Joe Rogan has the intellect of a snail.
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And yet, @flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz is correct - he's still more of an intellectual than some of his guests.
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that's an insult to both joe rogan and the snail.
joe isn't as quick as a snail, and joe's a lot more slimy.
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To be fair...
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I honestly don’t know. It would be completely justified if women flipped out more often.
I like her husband’s response, though.
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One of the wisest things I've ever heard is "White people should be lucky that black people only want equality, revenge would be perfectly understandable at this point."
The more I learn about black history, as in the history of what white people have been doing to black people since the latter was dragged kicking and screaming to America, the more I appreciate the phrase. It's honestly some of the most horrific shit I've ever had the displeasure of learning.
And just to clarify. I'm not black, I'm a pale transchick from the 90's who's whiter than sour cream, I've seen Wayne's World 69,420 times and it keeps getting funnier every time I see it.
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If you really want to be disgusted read A People's History by Zinn
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One of my favorite books! It’s arguably what led to my radicalization.
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Some people believe that they are taking just that, hence all the terror around Great Replacement theory, or the moral downfall of society because people aren't partaking of mass in purest Latin.
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When you're used to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
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Still doing it, even the Liberals who think they're anti-Racist, because huge levels of discrimination on the basis of wealth and very low social mobility are core to preserving the oppression of the descendants of people such as freed slaves and inflicting on them the constante suffering which is a live of poverty in a Capitalist system:
- When released, the slaves were poor compared to the rest and, because of being poor they and their children had to live in worse places, were not part of the landowner class and did not have access to the same opportinities as the rest (all the while the active discrimination on the color of their skin continued, making things worse). Fast forward to the modern days and whilst direct discrimination on the color of their skin is a lot less than a mere 50 years ago, you still have lots of Afro-Americans living in ghettos, oppressed via their poverty and with their children having far fewer opportunities to improve their lot in life than the rest.
This is why the fight against Inequality must include fighting Wealth Inequality and Discrimination on the basis of Wealth: even if other kinds of inequality of treatment were magically eliminated tomorrow, Wealth Discrimination is by far the main mechanism of hurting those victims and their descendants (poor people live much more painful lives, from the quality of their dwellings and even the bed they sleep in, to that of their food and their personal safety, to the point that their Life Expectancy is a at least a decade less than rich people) and Wealth Inequality bakes in the past injustices (by denying the same opportunities to the descendants of those who are past victims of other kinds of discrimination, for example because poor neighbourhoods have worse schools and poored people don't have the same access to universities when those institutions are private and have high attendance fees and non-meritocratic components to their selection process).
In summary, people pushed down the Wealth scale (or never allowed to move up) by other kinds of Discrimination are inflicted pain and suffering via the mechanisms of Wealth Discrimination and their descendants are denied the same opportunities that others have to improve their lot in life by the very same mechanisms.
In practice American Liberals are a mix of hypocrites and useful idiots because, whilst claiming to be against discrimination, they refuse to address the biggest one, which is the main pathway for inflicting life-long suffering to the victims of other kinds of widespread discrimination and for transmitting that status of victim down the generations long after the original kind of discrimination has lessened or even dissapeared.
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All of this. It also must include environmental for all the reasons above as well. Exposure to toxic environmental factors (e.g. chemicals, temperature, pollution etc.) more prevalent on the poor and minorities.
https://wcfia.harvard.edu/publications/centerpiece/fall2018/transcript_jodidi11-5-2018
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And just to clarify. I’m not black, I’m a pale transchick from the 90’s who’s whiter than sour cream, I’ve seen Wayne’s World 69,420 times and it keeps getting funnier every time I see it.
I'm sorry ma'am, you're under arrest for excessive whiteness.
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You want to see a nation that has an even more horrible history? Look up the history of Haiti post slave rebellion. That’s a nation the USA and France owe trillions to.
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Alternatively you can look up what Belgium did in the Kongo. That shit is horrible.
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Unpopular opinion: the massive African slave trade was only made possible because the coastal kingdoms of the continent (Mali, Benin, Dahomey, Mozambique, etc), saw a golden opportunity to gain goods and weapons they otherwise had no access to. The Europeans (and muslims, too, Oman was a big slave trading kingdom) obviously have their well deserved share of the responsibility, defending said kingdoms and for essentially turning the slave trade into an industry and a massacre, but don't erase or ignore the Africans' own responsibility in the process, because it was them who ventured into the continent to hunt and capture people to be sold at the ports.
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"And it's because of how they were dressed!"
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doctors can have really shit opinions too
the real message is: every opinion must be scrutinized heavily, if it stands scrutiny maybe there's something there
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It depends on what they're talking about. I'll listen to and generally heed a doctors medical opinion, for example. Their political opinion? Eh..
Joe Rogan, who has doesn't have expertise in anything comparable to a doctors expertise in medicine, no way I'm talking anything he says at face value.
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In my experience doctors can have some of the absolute worst opinions. Especially highly educated speciality doctors who have spent 1/3 of their life doing nothing but studying their very specific field. Lawyers too.
I work in IT and they can be some of the worst users to work with.
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Honestly this is true of many smart people in specialized professions
Infamously software developers are fucking knuckle dragging morons about anything that has nothing to do with what they're good at, but they think they're god kings and think the world works like a computer
The only hallmark of intelligence I subscribe to is when someone just acknowledges they don't know everything and listen. Everyone else is doom spiraling into thought terminating patterns while thinking they're right
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Specialists are experts in their field. Much like many of the IT people they fall into the trap of “Im smart because my job requires it so therefore every opinion I have is intelligent” and that simply isn’t how it really works.
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Always remember: The vaccines cause autism bullshit was started by a fully licensed doctor.
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Joe Rogan, Shapiro, and j Peterson is what you called pseudo-intellectuals
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The problem with this world is that a lot of people enjoy EVERYTHING on a surface level.
I keep getting reminded of my "gamer" years when I played league of legends. When I started, I was clueless and bad. And I found a YouTube channel which made fun educational videos.
Initially I learned a lot but over time, I realized how bad the advice was at times, which changed my consumption of the content. At the end, the content didn't teach me anything and the suggestions of the creator seemed to be focused on messing with bad players and not actually playing good.
I started to watch better players and learned more from them.
To me, fans of these guys stopped at the first step. They want educational content but they don't actually want to learn and so don't actually think about the content and can't outgrow it.
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To me the problem is content vs entertainment.
Joe Rogan has no content. He is not an expert, but somehow he is able to make the podcast, populated by morons, enjoyable by it's audience. So if a person has to choose between Rogan, with a pseudoscientist in it, or a PhD, which is extremely prepared but does not know how to present his knowledge (either overcomplicated for the general masses, or plain boring), 90% of the people will watch Rogan.
Going to your LoL: the most successful streamers where not the best players, but the pros who manage to keep the chat entertained.
Another example are university professors: the most knowledgeable are usually not the best teachers, because knowing a subject and presenting it are two completely different skill sets.
That's the sad reality of today online content
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They grew up being told the answer and these guys specialize in telling people “the answer”. The issue is they are frequently providing the wrong answer.
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Shapiro and Peterson both have post graduate degrees. Peterson actually taught at a university level. They are intellectuals they are also just wrong about many of their opinions
Edit: I get hating benny shaps but this is easily verified
“…He then attended Harvard Law School, where he studied under liberal law professors Lani Guinier and Randall Kennedy.[10][11] In 2007, Shapiro graduated from Harvard with a Juris Doctor, cum laude.[12]”
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W husband
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Try being a woman and talking to a mechanic or anybody working at an auto parts store.
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Or try being a woman working at an autoparts store
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Owch. Yeah, that's hard mode.
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I recently did. I didn't realize she was a mechanic at first but it was a lovely conversation that touched heavily on being women in male dominated careers.
But yes I fully agree
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Legit, I've used why wife as a honest detector for mechanics, ended up finding a mechanic for life (he had the chance to quote us to replace half used brakes way too early and instead was honest and just blew the dust off for free, told us it wasn't necessary)
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i was more successful selling cars to women than men and it was because I presumed the person who told me they looked into multiple cars and chose this line actually knew what they wanted in that car.
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While hilarious...that's what's breed the rise of the shit show of anti-science. We can't just call morons morons anymore. They go back to truth social, find all the other morons and pretend like they know better.
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We need to be better at explaining to people what their education equates to. If you stopped taking hard sciences when you graduated high school you don’t have a good to great understanding of those subjects rather you have the absolute basic understanding.
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I personally resist the urge to kill by playing PvP games
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Pride of Ignorance. Its something we should bully out of people. Nobody should be so proud to be so dumb. Its fine to be dumb, but nobody should revel in it.
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There is nothing admirable about letting a fascist rant about hate and nonsense, while the ape of a host goes “never thought of it that way, interesting” while legitimizing the nonsense
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I wish people would stop giving the Joe Rogans and Rush Limbaughs of the world more attention than they deserve. Debating whether they're right or wrong about anything just gives them more legitimacy than they deserve. They're a sideshow. They're hucksters waving their hands and making noise to make a buck.
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They're hucksters waving their hands and making noise to make a buck.
Yup.
They've learned that doing outrageous things and pissing people off makes the line go up and so they're going to keep doing that regardless of the consequences to discourse in society because it puts money in their pocket
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This is a bit embarrassing maybe, but I have actually enjoyed listening to a couple of episodes of the Joe Rogan podcast. In the few episodes I have listened to he has been able to get some good conversations going.
One could easily and rightfully criticize him platforming a lot of his guests, but this is where it gets a bit tricky.
He gives a voice to people that has interesting things to say, that in some way contribute in society or contributes to a discussion, and people that are completely psychotic. The latter should not be platformed, both for their own good and society. Alex Jones was an example of that. Joe Rogan should have stopped that episode in its tracks, or not have aired it.
I stopped listening more as a sort of boycott, not because I could not find any sort of value in his episodes sometimes.
Edit: The reply is probably correct. Joe Rogan does tend to not be skeptical and does platform a lot of evil people as well. The people in his podcast rarely meets any real opposition from Joe.
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He more often gives platforms to people who say nothing, and a whole lot of it that. He also tends to platform insane and downright evil people and lets them say whatever bullshit they want with zero questions, zero feedback, zero incredulity, thus making them look legitimate in the eyes of his followers.
He is a very dangerous man.
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I stopped listening because a few of the doctors or scientists he has had on before. Rogan hadn't read their book, didn't know anything about them nor could be keep any sort of useful conversation going and I found other podcasts of actual smart people who can converse and have discourse with intellectuals and I can learn something. Jordan Harbinger is the best example of this.
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"if €Gender would ..." - time to say: "No."
Sometimes I want an AI just to block every and all mentions of that American 'podcaster'.
Great comeback.
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get me the clip of Joseph yelling at a primate scientist because she corrected him
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Better than using his clip, here's her describing it in her own words
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Hmm I bet male accidental deaths decreased because of divorced
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I schooled another man about my wife's competence. A doctor's a doctor! - title of this as a moderately upvoted repost on reddit with mostly positive, supportive comments
Thank you to all the good men who defend their wives like DH did for me! We love you! - title of a less upvoted and commented on reddit repost the next day
OP: My husband's nazi coworker was blatantly sexist to me at a company dinner - "where do you live dumb cunt imma swat your house," "men are people too, not everything is nazis, feminist removed" brigade, "why are you dividing the movement for equality" Civilized Discussion and Debate, redditcares messages in her inbox
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I think it's adorable that you think they'd listen to a male scientist who told them they were being idiots.
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I cringed
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Pharmaceuticals, generally.
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They shouldn't
Lorena Bobbit had it right
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Maybe surprisingly for you, many women are not able to restrain themselves from killing.
With that said, whenever anyone overgeneralizes, I know immediately they're either willfully ignorant or just dumb, and any opinion they voice should simply be taken with a mountain of salt.
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The violent crime rant leaning overwhelmingly male says otherwise
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No, that's flawed reasoning.
If someone says second hand smoke kills people, it doesn't make them wrong simply because someone points out that car accidents kill more people.
Both things can be true
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I dislike how the guy swooped in to save the day (again). I'm sure she was perfectly capable of ripping him a new one.
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Sometimes we have to swoop in because we don't want to see an absolute massacre, lol
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Neuroscientists? They just pump people with drugs to keep them dumb.
Don't trust them. If you want a brain doctor go to a psychologist.
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Uhh, not sure if trolling or sarcasm, so.
Neuroscientists aren't medics (not all, not even the majority). They can't pump you full of anything. Furthermore, if a psychologist detects that you need medication, they will refer you to a psychiatrist to prescribe you drugs. They're not to make you dumb, they're to prevent you from hurting yourself and others, and improve mood and cognitive function.
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Psychologist? They just pump your head full of ideas that there's something wrong with you.
Don't trust them. If you want a brain doctor go to an astrologist.
/s
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I had to go see a neurologist to cure my headaches, not a psychiatrist. If it wasn't for neuroscience, I'd still be having headaches 3-4 times a week.
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This is so cringe. Things like this with people upvoting this junk really does make Dems look like radical fascist as well just itching to censor people & take away free speech. One person said that letting other people speak is a good thing, but the supposed doctor who insists she is smarter than everyone else cause she's a doctor, is celebrating the idea of preventing people from speaking.
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You lot need to get over yourselves. Not everything is about your dems and republicans reality show excuse for politics. Take that shit back to Reddit.
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Yer mom is so cringe
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I tend to agree with you on this.
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