Motherfucker you started by asking me why I thought I was so smart and you can't even muster the concentration to read my response. Unbelievable.

Yikes. Relax, brother.

Relaxing seems more or less impossible given the state of the world and in particular the state of the country I live in.

I have no angle. I simply inquired into your assessment of our situation.

You asked me a question that was clearly implying an attack on my character. If that wasn't your intention I think you phrased your post egregiously poorly.

The reason I ask is because I see quite a number of people saying that it’s “everyone else’s fault for being immoral and stupid”, and I believe we should be looking more inward, or at least assigning fault to the ones who are responsible (the “powers that be if you will) instead of pointing the finger at our fellow brothers and sisters.

Inward: I know I have absolutely no desire to participate in a civil war, or experience fascism and the death of democracy in the US. I worked hard to try and help bring about an election result that would prevent dooming the earth.

Powers that be: You mean conservative/centrist democrats? My hatred for them is very intense. But they aren't people who choose to, through inaction, allow fascism to win. They just legitimately and unironically thought centrism and status quo politics would win them the election. They're greedy, arrogant, and removed but they thought they were going to stop fascism with more status quo liberalism.

There are a few staunch centrists that have even admitted that they should have moved leftward. Even that fucking piece of shit James Carville admitted to that. To bad its too late. Stupid fucking losers.

The non-voters demonstrated actual apathy towards the possibility of fascism winning. I don't know that I can really forgive them, my disgust for "I don't care who fascism hurts" is too intense to worry about how smug and also dumb liberals are.

Now, would the democrats have tried left populism if they saw it was their only way to win? Probably. It certainly seemed like Harris early in her campaign was moving in that direction before the democratic consultants showed up and they started wasting their time courting moderate republicans and pushing a weak watered down message.

But, this is just my opinion. And you are entitled to yours.

We are also entitled to critique opinions. Letting opinions be spouted without challenge has consequences. Though I'll concede I don't know how much it matters anymore to me considering how doomer I am now.

If you want to discuss further, there is no need for the ad hominem attacks 🙂.

I wasn't doing ad hominem, I was impugning your intentions and suggesting you were bad faith.

What's your angle? Insecurity or propaganda? Trying to guilt trip me for having a negative evaluation of the average person?

Maybe you aren't part of the majority of people I think of as moronic, I don't know you in particular, but the question you are asking sounds like maybe you are worried that you would be. TBH, you probably aren't significantly worse than average by the mere metric of being able to read and write, depressing knowing how many functionally illiterate people there are.

Of course, go ahead and think I'm actually the stupid one if it makes you feel better, I literally don't care about that. I care about becoming smarter and more correct perhaps, not what you think of my intellect now.

Its arguable that its better to define them by the intent of the ideology rather than just their outcomes.

Because most people are either stupid, evil, or stupid and evil.

I don't know what the solution is, I can only hope its mostly just the "extreme ignorance" type of stupidity and not evil or "willing ignorance" stupidity and after experiencing the suffering they've enabled for themselves that they put 2 and 2 together and things maybe recover partially or enough to prevent the end of human civilization as we know it.

Are you sure that's not some kind of kink of yours?

First, thanks for elaborating. I welcome the challenge to my views, but now I need to counter.

they shouldn’t be advocating for copyright, i.e. don’t base your whole business model hypocrisy. “Copyright for ther but not for me”.

I never suggested that they are advocating for copyright. Utilizing the rules of a system to get ahead doesn't mean you actively advocate for it. That said, I somewhat agree, if a small indie dev was using gen AI and then however gets litigious over people pirating their game that indicates a ruthlessness that is significantly unpalatable and I certainly would not support them. I'd view them as extremely petty and stupid to the point that the potential hypocrisy almost comes second to me though.

I do believe generative AI to be copying rather than learning, unlike humans.

I don't see a difference. There is nothing intrinsically special about a human's learning methods that can't be replicated by computer systems. Even if the current generative AI methodologies wasn't exactly the same process, that is immaterial. If I created a humanoid robot that learned to physically paint based on paintings I showed it, would that be merely "copying" instead of learning?

What if they came out with neurological enhancement implants to human brains that sped up the process of humans learning how to do art to the point that they also could trivially replicate other artist's styles?

The difference is purely in economic consequences. In both of my questioning examples producing art becomes economically trivial, that's the problem. The meta-physical question of whether its "art" or whether only humans are truly creative is all cope and gibberish.

The third paragraph tries to put a class barrier on good morals. Let’s assume that is true. I’d argue that anyone that has the time and money to start their own venture into game development also is quite “comfortable” and should therefore be measured by the same stick.

This is all relative/subjective and I largely just disagree. I think this is an easy position to hold if you've already "made it" so to speak. It comes off as someone rich tut tuting someone poorer than them for "taking shortcuts" and saying "Look, you have a computer, smart phone, a microwave! You should be happy with what you have and just work harder if you want more."

"Good morals" is also extremely subjective. When it comes to meta-ethics, I only care about consequences, not about the virtue of individuals. Virtue only matters in my personal relationships.

Most open source is created by people in their spare time. They mostly have full time jobs to do as well, the collaboration is done for fun or as a calling to do good for the world.

Having spare time and energy to contribute to open source is a privilege in today's society regardless of how it is achieved. You can argue that in our time of abundance this should not be the case but unfortunately it is.

Again though, I don't view this as a negative on the part of people who contribute to open source. I strongly support such people and hope at some point I've reached a point in my life that I can do the same.

Note the "if they could"

I'm not sure what you mean. But I suspect that is cope.

It doesn't, that's not my point though. "Idiot" is just a watered down form in the modern era, but its still a slur for someone with poor cognitive abilities. And much like "removed" it was used in a clinical/technical context originally.

A person calling someone an idiot is using a culturally softer term to get away with conveying the same exact message. You feel contempt for someone for being dumb, a totally understandable emotion. Calling someone an idiot though doesn't convey the same bite, sure, but that is almost the problem. Why would you pull punches if you feel earnest contempt for them and their lack of intelligence? Its insincere.

To provide another example of what I mean: If someone says "DEI people" they want to say the N-word without actually saying it and they are rightfully called out on that all the time.

Incels aren't getting shit out of this, this benefits rightwing patriarchs who have abused wives at home.

Incels are alone in a basement or some shit dreaming about being the rightwing patriarch but the rightwing patriarch doesn't likely feel anything but disgust for the incel. They'd purge the incel in a heartbeat if they could.

Hes doing exactly what he wanted to do as president.

Have you ever called someone an idiot?

I think honestly another way to put it is that pain and suffering are merely unpleasant signals intended to actually prevent you from dying. Death itself is a lovecraftian horror.

I think I'll take the unpleasant signals.

You legitimately have too much patience.

In so far that anyone can deserve to suffer, these pieces of shit do.

Shit, have I run into someone more misanthropic than I am right now? Neat.

Fine, and the the innocent people on it. Jesus fucking Christ.

My point was that Earth itself is just an object with things living on it.

I might be aggressively fucking angry at like 90% of the voting eligible populace in America but there are a ton of other people that don't fit into that category that don't hold my ire.

Its too bad I don't care about the rock we're floating around in space on and mostly care about me and my loved ones.

I’m not gonna argue

That is why you are a disappointment to me.

I don't believe you actually think I'm not mentally capable, you're just calling me stupid because you dislike me. I do believe you don't want to continue arguing though.

You are so fucking disappointing.