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Associated Press barred from Oval Office for not using ‘Gulf of America’

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Associated Press Barred from Oval Office for Not Using 'Gulf of America'

www.theguardian.com /us-news/2025/feb/11/associated-press-oval-office-gulf-of-america

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Good. Get punished. Don't go along with it. If you start bowing and scraping so you won't get ejected from the oval office, then that will enable that much more the gradual evolution that will lead you along with many other people to get "punished" in ways that are far more severe. Like, barges floating off of Gitmo or working in the fields on a prison labor system severe. It is insane to me that people are taking all of this so lightly and going along with it.
- Even from the ideal pro-capitalist hat on; AP benefits from this. It might seem that short term they lose money by not having hot off the press news to sell, but long term they keep their credibility, which is ultimately the product they sell.
  
  Anyone else finding their middle aged progressive values aligning with GDP more than ever?
- Any thoughts on how can I punish Google for renaming stuff in Google Maps? My company is already removing Google Analytics and Google Maps from our web site and has halted a planned migration to Google Workspace. And I have personally stopped using Chrome and Google Search which is just a cesspool of AI generated from garbage anymore anyway. But surely there must be more I can do...
  
  Absolutely. That's a good start. Mouseflow or one of its competitors honestly was always more useful to me than Google Analytics. Honestly, as far as I know, a huge share of their income still comes from search ads and YouTube. I think if you just avoid those things, you're already doing more or less as much as you can.
  Oh, also, publicize duckduckgo and friends over Google. Google search has become far less useful than it used to be, anyway.
  
  Just keep pushing the groupthink to get out of Google. They can't be trusted, now, more than ever.

Confirmed, the US is a sensitive country
- What happened to "snowflakes"? I guess that just like everything else, it was projection.
  
  Thanks to climate change the snowflakes melted. /hj
  
  Yellow snow “flakes”

Gives me a little extra respect for AP than before. Don't comply with fascists. Make them show just how incredibly sensitive and ridiculous they are.
- More respect for the AP? Them and Reuters are the two defacto news orgs that 95% of other news get their articles from lmfao.
  
  I love AP, too. Even Reuters can get a little eyebrow-raising sometimes, but I find AP pretty consistently solid. They're straight-up targeting the actual, real-deal journalists. ProPublica's likely to be fucked with, too.
  
  Oh, for sure. I've noticed a lot of other news sites simply citing them or republishing their content. To clarify, I didn't mean what I said in any kind of "I didn't respect them much before" kind of way. I heavily respect them, as well as ProPublica, like another person mentioned earlier. I just hold even more respect from them after this.
  
  But I was assured by all the vocal defenders of that stupid bias bot that fiiiiiinally went away (payments must have dried up) that the AP and Reuters are left-wing rags.
- Also, don't accept or repeat their narratives.

But I thought dead naming was cool? Now you want to use preferred names.

So Trump is offended that the AP deadnamed his gulf? Imagine that…
- Not even deadnamed. The "name change" only impacts like a specific section of it, not the whole thing.

Child Throws Temper Tantrum Because He Didn’t Get His Way
FTFY.

I too, am not allowed into the Oval Office.
- We should make our own Oval Office with blackjack and hookers!
  Wait…the official one probably has those too. Blackjack, hookers, AND the Gulf of Mexico!
- Better that I'm not allowed in it, I think.
- Me as well
  
  Dozens of us.

Blocking the press is how the Trump admin can they make this absurd distraction a much bigger deal with no repercussions. The power of names is much diminished in these times. We need a better name vibe. call it Gulf of Slow The Fuck Down
- Gulf of Punch Nazis

Any press still allowed in is just bootlicking government mouthpieces anyway.

So dumb. What a sniveling child.
- Classic fashy behavior.

I know of at least one US government web page that still references "Gulf of Mexico", but I don't want to link it, because I'm very curious to see how long it can fly under the radar. I have a thing set up that checks the page regularly and will alert me whenever it changes.
Is there a way to set up archive.org or something like that to save regular snapshots without risking drawing more attention to it?
- Install ArchiveBox. Even if you don't have a home server or VPS, you can run it on your regular PC - it's just a Docker container, or if you don't like Docker, you can run the Python code directly. http://archivebox.io/
  That way, it's under your full control, and you keep all the data.
  For tracking changes to sites, changedetection.io is free and open-source if you self-host it. Just their remotely hosted version costs money.
- Setup a script to use wget to grab a copy of the page every six hours or so?

toss another lawsuit on the fire in 4... 3... 2... 1...

Interesting to note that they’re standing firm on Gulf of Mexico but not Denali.
- one is an international body of water, the other is wholly contained within the borders of the u.s. that's why they went that route.
- Side note: everyone called it Denali before Obama renamed it anyway, and everyone is doing to continue to call it Denali

I hate news articles so much. "The (underlined) Associated Press said" ahh, this must be a link to the actual quote, I'll read that. Nope! Just a link to their website. At least it's not as bad as other sites that link to other random articles.
- Better than "Download the app to read the article"
  
  Low bar.
- The worst are the outlets that appear to outright refuse to link to anything but their own site... It will reference something, and instead of the link actually going to the thing, it goes to the last article they posted on the thing. Ugh. Few things make me leave a news site faster.

That's actually pretty pathetic

The Fourth Estate has been dead a long time now. Every once in a while you get someone that pushes back , but then they seem to get quietened.

Seems like the AP isn't counting the lights in the official manner. There's five lights. It's official. It's not something there's any need to stubbornly disagree about, Picard.

Special operation
- A special golf operation.. there's no reason americans should have to think of mexico when playing golf

So fragile

Sure seems like he's filled that swamp back up

This is a pretty open and shut first amendment violation, no?
- Can't see why. The government isn't telling them what they can't say, only barring them from listening to the administration first hand.
  But no worries! The blatant 1st violations will be along soon enough. The notion of free speech is too sacred to us Americans to trash right up from, takes some time.
  
  They are effectively telling them what they can and cannot say by punishing them for not saying the thing the admin wants them to say.
  
  It's not a free speech issue it's a free press issue:
  Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
  The press is called out separately on purpose.
  Of course, actually it states congress, but the supreme Court has ruled that it applies to all members of the government, and so thanks to common law, it would apply here.
- And what if it is?, you can just add it to the list I guess, it chances nothing