The Ten Commandments must be displayed in Louisiana classrooms under requirement signed into law

Can't wait to see the ~~eight~~ seven tenets of the Satanic Temple right up there next to them
- Please donate to The Satanic Temple if you care about this topic and are able.
  
  TST is not a super great org unfortunately. They do stuff for great headlines but apparently little in the way of effective advocacy. I've also heard that there are pretty bad issues with misogyny among the upper echelons. While it's extremely long at 2hrs, Dead Domain's video on the subject goes into great detail.
  It's really unfortunate, I wanted to believe they were fighting the good fight but I don't know if I can in good conscience anymore
- There are only 7 tenets
  
  Thank you! I'll edit the original

the Ten Commandments are described as “foundational documents of our state and national government.
Jefferson must be rolling in his grave so fast that he could power the whole east coast. Bunch of uneducated goons.
- Thomas Jefferson would never roll over in his grave. He would have his slaves roll him.
  
  Atonal screaming heard in distance
- I’d love for them to point to where it suggests that in either the federal or state constitutions.
  
  I wouldn't point to state constitutions there's probably a few that do say that.
- Bunch of uneducated goons.
  Oh, they know they're lying, they just want to lie so much they bury the truth re-write the past (which is kinda ironic if you think about it, given that whole eight commandment). It's kinda the same way the "Lost Cause of the Confederacy" is embedded into American mythology despite being a after-the-fact whitewashing of history.
  
  No one challenged the law makers to prove that they were right. They are lying because they can get away with it - no one in any position of power asked or was asked which foundational document was forged by forefathers from Christian (or any religion) doctrine.
- 6 and 8 are the only ones that are laws, and those are just common sense shit, don't murder or steal. The first 4 are telling you what god to worship and how, which are explicitly the opposite of what a government is built on.
  
  There's also the one about bearing false witness, aka perjury/defamation/libel/slander.

Display them in Arabic.
This would never have survived scotus 5 years ago. Today I would not bet against them finding it constitutional
- Lol, that's exactly what I thought of too. Assuming https://legiscan.com/LA/text/HB71/2024 is correct I think my image fits the legal requirements.
  It does specify specific text, but it doesn't say I can't add additional text.
  Also it has to be easily readable.
  
  Also it has to be easily readable.
  That's a tall order for a state that has a terrible education system.
  
  That's painful to look at, I can't agree that it's easily readable
  
  Love it 👍
  
  Ahhh! My eyes! 🙈
  
  MY EYES!!!!! Bless you, internet denizen

What a shithole state.

Incoming Satanic Temple poster right beside it!

I'm so sick and tired Of these Christophascist Trying to force their pedophile religion on me and my kids.

They'll probably publish the abridged version, sadly. The full version reads, as we well know:
Thou shall not commit adultery but, if thou doest, thou shalt pay off the other woman so that it harmeth not thy chances in the presidential election. Nor shall it turn thy supporters against thee when they heareth of it.
- Text is laid out in the law:
  https://legis.la.gov/legis/ViewDocument.aspx?d=1379435
  The Ten Commandments
  I AM the LORD thy God.
  Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
  Thou shalt not make to thyself any graven images.
  Thou shalt not take the Name of the Lord thy God in vain.
  Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
  Honor thy father and thy mother, that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.
  Thou shalt not kill.
  Thou shalt not commit adultery.
  Thou shalt not steal.
  Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
  Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house.
  Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his cattle, nor anything that is thy neighbor's
  And then there's a context statement trying to pretend this is a foundational legal document of the United States.
  
  Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
  I take it shops in Loiusiana will be closed on Saturday from now on as well as everyone being forbidden form working?
  
  Thou shalt not kill.
  no more capital punishment,
  and if one sins, God will punish one's children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren.
  
  Been a minute since I read these. It's so telling that the actual crimes start at 6, and move to thought crimes at 9. The rest is god fluffing itself.
  
  You forgot the most important line!
  "Thou shalt use these commandments as the foundation of law in a country called the United States of America in the year 1776 after killing my son"
  C'mon it's so iconic
  
  That excludes a lot from the biblical text.
  The "no working on the sabbath" thing continues on to list that you also can't make servants work on the sabbath - which would include the poor verbally abused waffle house staff working the Sunday brunch shift when the after church crowd comes in...
  
  There's only like 2.5 of the ten commandments in U.S. law.
- It should be in proper English: not these new interpretations—as if they could re-write the Bible—blasphemy! I say.
  ws:Bible (Tyndale)/Exodus#Chapter 20
  https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Bible_(Tyndale)/Exodus#Chapter_20
  1 And God spake all these wordes ad saide:
  2 I am the Lorde thy God, which haue brought the out of the londe of Egipte ad out of the house of bondage.
  3 Thou shalt haue none other goddes in my syght.
  4 Thou shalt make the no grauen ymage, nether any symilitude that is in heauen aboue, ether in the erth beneth, or in the water that ys beneth the erth.
  5 Se that thou nether bowe thy sylf vnto them nether serue them: for I the Lorde thy God, am a gelouse God, and viset the synne of the fathers vppon the childern vnto the third and fourth generacion of the that hate me:
  6 and yet shewe mercie vnto thousandes amonge them that loue me and kepe my commaundmentes.
  7 Thou shalt not take the name of the Lorde thy God in vayne, for the Lord wil not holde him giltlesse that taketh his name in vayne.
  8 Remebre the Sabbath daye that thou sanctifie it.
  9 Sixe dayes mayst thou laboure ad do al that thou hast to doo:
  10 but the seuenth daye is the Sabbath of the Lorde thy God, in it thou shalt do no maner worke: nether thou nor thy sonne, nor thy doughter, nether thy manservaunte nor thy maydeservaunte, nether thy catell nether yet the straunger that is within thi gates
  11 For in sixe dayes the Lorde made both heauen and erth and the see and all that in them is and rested the seuenth daye: wherfore the Lorde blessed the Sabbath daye and halowed it.
  12 Honoure thy father ad thy mother, that thy dayes may be loge in the lode which the Lorde thy God geueth the.
  13 Thou shalt not kyll.
  14 Thou shalt not breake wedlocke.
  15 Thou shalt not steale.
  16 Thou shalt bere no false witnesse agest thy neghboure
  17 Thou shalt not couet thy neghbours housse: nether shalt couet thy neghbours wife, his maservaunte, his mayde, his oxe, his asse or oughte that is his.
  18 And all the people sawe the thunder ad the lyghteninge and the noyse of the horne, ad howe the mountayne smoked. And whe the people sawe it, they remoued ad stode a ferre of
  
  This is clearly a rewrite, it should be in Hebrew

Cool, cool, cool ... They going to ban pork products and all shellfish too? Or are we cherry picking here... Seems like it be right blasphemous to be cherry picking...
Honestly I can make a whole list.
- Louisiana band shellfish??? Not in a million years
  
  Then they’re all blasphemous and shall all be executed by having stones thrown at them until death.
- They going to ban pork products and all shellfish too? Or are we cherry picking here...
  "bUt ThaT's tHE oLD tEsTAmEnT!! 🤓☝️"

There should be penalties for anyone who passes an obviously unconstitutional law.
- Immediate loss of all Federal funding. Welfare states like Louisiana will feel the pinch quickly.
  
  I mean personal penalties. There are individual people responsible for this. Punish them, not the state.

Only thing historically significant about the 10 commandments is that the founding fathers didn't want them in classrooms

How is this not a first amendment constitutional violation? It very clearly establishes a state religion by enforcing Christian doctrine into state law. Fuck every religion, but in particular, fuck abrahamic religion and all of its followers.
- It is, the point is to make it to the Supreme Court so they can set a precedent that its allowed.
  
  They're supposed to be the court defending the constitution, but yet here we are. I wish you weren't right.
  
  If they actually believe in that whole originalism thing they claim (basically that the text of the constitution means what it would have meant at the time it was written, and shifts in the definition of words don't change that meaning) they still can't allow it. There's basically no way to interpret the Constitution that would result in mandating a specific religious affirmation be in public facilities isn't "promoting an establishment of religion".
  The best they could hope for without just ignoring the Constitution entirely and making something up (which all their conservatism.aside they generally haven't done yet) would be arguing that this requires opening the door to any similar list of religious tenets by literally every faith on the planet.
  
  Sounds like a good way to destroy the 2nd amendment.
- As a Canadian, I have the same question. Is this just the old "slam through an obviously unconstitutional law because it will take years and hundreds of thousands of dollars to get it undone and until then maybe we can keep pushing our clearly anti-American agenda? (note I'm using American to mean what they claim it to mean, like in the movies, not what it actually is, which is kinda... this.)

I'd just hang my classroom full of different religious and non-religious commandments.
The christian one will be there ... somewhere.
Probably covered by the 10 commandments of Tacos:
- CAN I GET AN AMEN
  
  Ah, man!!
  
  Amen! Hallelujah!
- unfortunately i think you would be absolutely fired
  
  I'd rather be fired for not being a Christian than to be an actual Christian any day. Especially an American Christian.
- I was thinking frame them in a really bad frame that falls on its face all the time. If you have older students, just loudly state how much you would dislike it if the commandments were stolen or otherwise defaced and let nature do its work.
  But I like yours.

We need to enact a law that requires states to either adhere to the Seperation of Church and State or have every single church in their state have their religious tax exemption status revoked. Churches that get it revoked is mandatorily required a tax payback to the IRS of up to 5 years or more. If a church is unable to payback owed taxes once revoked will have their churches taken and land converted to into free public usage.
- Did you know if every church in America took in two homeless people, there wouldn't be any homeless people left in America?
  
  Lol Jesus would hate that, remember when he went to the Pharisees and went like
  You guys fucking slay, LOVE IT
  
  Me: Please let me know how many homeless people each church would need to host to help all the homeless people
  ChatGPT: Each church in the United States would need to host approximately 1.87 homeless people to accommodate all the homeless individuals in the country.
  That is truly absurd!

This country is so completely fucked.

Hmm… doesn’t specifically basing any laws on a universally recognized organized religion by definition a violation of Church and State? Doesn’t explicitly stating a religious totem qualify as favoring one religion over others? Doesn’t this also violate the Lemon Test since it in no way can be seen as secular in nature to put religious text in any form inside a classroom that is funded by the state? Seems they wrote themselves the reason to strike down the law into the law itself.
- Yeeeeeupp

This state government is the worst one I've ever seen. Filled with morons. They believe in fairy tales and magic. There is no voice of reason in that state house.
- I used to live in that state. So glad I left, no fucking idea what I was doing there in the first place. Even Texas is better.
  
  I live an work in Scotland, as part of our job we're voluntold to speak to young people considering a trades apprenticeship. Last month was my turn, one of the kids was going for his welding ticket. His game plan was to immediately move to Texas. I told him there's loads of places you'd be less likely to be shot considering how lippy he is.

Well it's about time that children learn not to boil a baby goat in the milk of its mother and to not, under any circumstances, put yeast in a blood sacrifice.
What? They aren't talking about the only ten commandments in the Bible actually called the ten commandments?
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2034&version=NIV
- 19 “The first offspring of every womb belongs to me, including all the firstborn males of your livestock, whether from herd or flock. 20 Redeem the firstborn donkey with a lamb, but if you do not redeem it, break its neck. Redeem all your firstborn sons.
  Wow. What does that even mean?
  
  What it says, the firstborn of every womb belongs to God and should be sacrificed to him, but you can trade a lamb if you want to keep the firstborn, like a coupon.
  So hypothetically, you either sacrifice a lamb to God or kill your first born child - this mirrors nicely with Passover.
  
  I don't even know. I don't even know why there would be yeast in a blood sacrifice.

remember that it's the gays that are indoctrinating our children!
remember that it's the moslems that want sharia law!
remember that it's the librulls that don't respect that constitution!

Get ready for the Baphomet statue.....

Religion terrifies me.
- I used to be in one, and it was terrifying. I left.

Now add the commandments for every other religion to make it fair

In the language of the law, the Ten Commandments are “foundational documents of our state and national government.”
Uh, no they fucking aren't, lmao

Someone should pull a Martin Luther and nail the part of the constitution that separates church and state to the entrance of the biggest school in the state.

Fuck religion. Specially Catholics and Christians are full of pedos and assholes.
- Agreed 100%. But we must not forget that Muslims worship a pedophile as their profit. And devout jews still have rabbis suck the blood off the freshly circumcised baby as tradition dictates.
  All of these abrahamic religions are absolute trash. And we can't forget the recent offshoots Mormonism and scientology.
  Remember folks, all of these assholes get massive amounts of undeserved tax breaks for no reason, and you dont.
  EDIT: I didn't mean to imply scientology is an offshoot of the abrahamic religions. It's just a recent offshoots religion, that gets tax breaks like the rest. Poorly worded.
  
  Any one left not believing in science first that would like to believe in gods, have I got a religion for you!... I haven't figured out all the details yet but we are efficient. We'll be using the last copy of pacbell's phone book. Incredibly most people who perished that year actually had their names mysteriously listed in that oh so great book. And finally, but most importantly, we can set up automatic withdrawal for your monthly, tax deductable, donation. If you want to bring up saint and shit, we're pretty much open to that. St. Steve for example helps us with programming bugs. Slowly he's getting used to python miracles. St. Bob will get you neighbors with tools to borrow from. St. Jessica will make you popular in school. And Saint Alina of the mysterious vajayjay will indeed find you that man of your dreams. So long as your account is engaged, you got nothing to fear. We got no hell or Devil in our religion. Just normal shit like that stupid stop light that takes forever to change or the homeless guy who might use your money to buy drugs so you can't decide if you should give him money or not.
  
  And devout jews still have rabbis suck the blood off the freshly circumcised baby as tradition dictates.
  Jewish babies get an immediate bj to make up for being circumcised?
  What
  
  Wait. Is scientology related to the abrahamic religions?

Christo-fascist theocratic shithole of a country.

I deserve to have my seven tenets displayed.

Oh, .... good ... since one of the commandments say you should not kill .... then we can get rid of everyone's guns then.
- I’m pretty sure none of the people behind this keep the sabbath, either.
- No, they reverse justified that fir Iraq War II. Cause y’know Gee Dubz was so jesusy.
- No, it's thou shall not commit murder, not kill. There is a difference. That sign in the thumbnail is between Cincinnati and Columbus Ohio. This has created a rivalry between the two MLS teams called thr HELL IS REAL derby. The other side of that billboard says HELL IS REAL as you come towards Cincinnati.

Every patriotic American in Louisiana has an obligation to go into schools and rip those things down.

This will kill religion faster than the priests

The story has been corrected to clarify that the time for gubernatorial action did not lapse. The governor signed the bill Wednesday.

Maybe they should add an eleventh? “Though shalt not covet your cousin, or anyone more closely related, or children… and since you made me have to put this in writing you’re all going to hell.”

I'll believe in their god as soon as they start electing officials that follow those commandments.
- I won’t
  
  Don't worry about me... It'll never happen.

Which 10 commandments?
- The 10 that are left after Moses dropped the third tablet.
  
  Under appreciated comment right there
  
  the first tablet(s). We don't know what the original tablets said. He came down, saw the shitfuckery that was going on, smashed them, and went back up to get two new ones made for the golden cow worshiping jews who had gotten bored while he was up there.
- Yeah does the law specify which ones? Many christian sects have slightly different wording and ordering.
  
  Ice cream is tasty, but don't overdo it.
  Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
  Be nice.
  Like for real, stop being an asshole.
  Greed is for Ferengi, don't overdo it.
  Dogs are great friends. Go pet one immediately.
  Be careful when petting a cat's belly. It could be a trap.
  Be careful when your girl says 'it's fine'. It's not. Buy chocolate.
  Eight commandments are enough, ten are a lot of effort
  But really, be nice.
  
  The actual 10 commandments:
  11 Obey what I command you today. I will drive out before you the Amorites, Canaanites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites. 12 Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land where you are going, or they will be a snare among you. 13 Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones and cut down their Asherah poles.[a] 14 Do not worship any other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.
  15 “Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land; for when they prostitute themselves to their gods and sacrifice to them, they will invite you and you will eat their sacrifices. 16 And when you choose some of their daughters as wives for your sons and those daughters prostitute themselves to their gods, they will lead your sons to do the same.
  17 “Do not make any idols.
  18 “Celebrate the Festival of Unleavened Bread. For seven days eat bread made without yeast, as I commanded you. Do this at the appointed time in the month of Aviv, for in that month you came out of Egypt.
  19 “The first offspring of every womb belongs to me, including all the firstborn males of your livestock, whether from herd or flock. 20 Redeem the firstborn donkey with a lamb, but if you do not redeem it, break its neck. Redeem all your firstborn sons.
  “No one is to appear before me empty-handed.
  21 “Six days you shall labor, but on the seventh day you shall rest; even during the plowing season and harvest you must rest.
  22 “Celebrate the Festival of Weeks with the firstfruits of the wheat harvest, and the Festival of Ingathering at the turn of the year.[b] 23 Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Sovereign Lord, the God of Israel. 24 I will drive out nations before you and enlarge your territory, and no one will covet your land when you go up three times each year to appear before the Lord your God.
  25 “Do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to me along with anything containing yeast, and do not let any of the sacrifice from the Passover Festival remain until morning.
  26 “Bring the best of the firstfruits of your soil to the house of the Lord your God.
  “Do not cook a young goat in its mother’s milk.”
  
  And even the KJV edits did not manage to paper over the fact that there are in fact 18 if you count Sky Daddy's recitation/rant in Exodus after the whole golden calf incident.
- Well, it's 10, so it can't be the Jewish version. I'm guessing the Protestant version.

I mean, it's gonna get challenged and if a lower court doesn't kill it before it reaches them, which I suspect will be the case, SCOTUS will.
SCOTUS already has case law saying that you cant do this.
- That hasn't stopped this Supreme Court.
- SCOTUS already has case law saying that you cant do this.
- Clarence Thomas entered the chat.
  “Your generous donations will help me think clearly in how I should approach this.”

"Fascists continue to fascist"

That is so fucking evil.

“If you want to respect the rule of law, you’ve got to start from the original lawgiver, which was Moses”
Bollocks, more like.
The earliest known laws are from The Code of Ur-Nammu from Mesopotamia written on tablets around 2100–2050 BCE. If Moses existed, he was probably chiselling away at his tables six or seven hundred years later.
So I demand that these laws replace the 10 Commandments in schools. Who could forget such classics as:
If a prospective son-in-law enters the house of his prospective father-in-law, but his father-in-law later gives his daughter to another man, the father-in-law shall return to the rejected son-in-law twofold the amount of bridal presents he had brought.
If a man's slave-woman, comparing herself to her mistress, speaks insolently to her, her mouth shall be scoured with 1 quart of salt.
If a man, in the course of a scuffle, smashed the limb of another man with a club, he shall pay one mina of silver.
If a man stealthily cultivates the field of another man and he raises a complaint, this is however to be rejected, and this man will lose his expenses.
- They don't care about ACTUAL history. They're trying to defend themselves by shifting any criticism onto "the original lawgiver," and knowing full well that most Americans get their history from church (and bad TV in a close second), they invoke God as a shield to do whatever awful injustices make them erect that week
- How much is a Mina in pounds?
  
  In today's money? About 17p, or 21 US cents. Shocking, really. I've got a club because at that price, why wouldn't you?

TST lawsuit incoming I hope
- They will be one of many, I expect.

They love being unconstitutional when it is in their interest.

Every classroom from K to college and obvious lawsuits?
Party of fiscal responsibility…

large, easily readable font
Ah, but readable by whom? I have a bar code font here. If you can't read it you're clearly not nerd enough.
Also, putting the Ten Commandments in classrooms will only turn the kids into sarcastic, blasphemous little fellows. ...I mean, more so than they already are.
- Sure sure, easily readable by what definition? Under a microscope? From a distance? Only if you cross your eyes? All very easy to do.
- large, easily readable font
  Can it use large font characters from non-english languages?

I think lawyers in these states lobby for this shit. What a grift. Take more federal tax dollars.

Fuck your fairy tales.

This is a great idea. Conservatives have likely never read them before they will be in for a culture shock.

I would be seriously motivated to counterlegislate the posting of what Jesus replaced all of them with:
Golden rule: treat others [at minimum, if not better than] how you would want to be treated. And help your neighbor to upgrade their standards if that seems to be a bottleneck even still
- Okay but what if they are masochists?
  
  That's what I'm saying about upgrading their standards. If you want to be treated and treat others like shit, the person with higher standards should be deferred to as the default de minima of social decency. Like, people should be invited and introduced to being treated with respect and dignity and be able to experience that first-hand with grace but also assertiveness.

The Ten Crack Commandments? Didn't know they were Biggie fans
- The law specifies the exact text, so this won't fly. Even using the other set of ten commandments in the Bible won't fly.
  I am looking forward to the lawsuits on 1A and how this functionally means they will have to display any list of religious rules or tenets requested. Nine Satanic Statements, the Seven Tenets of The Satanic Temple, the Noble Eightfold Path, etc, etc. We can turn their schools into a museum of comparative religion.
  
  Don't forget the Pastafarians and their noodly appendages
- Nah, it's the Ten Duel Commandments. Because everyone loves Hamilton.
  NUMBER ONE.
  
  The challenge, demand satisfaction
  If they apologize, no need for further action

Somebody's breaking the second commandment...
- The jewish one, the catholic one or the protestant one?

a poster-sized display of the Ten Commandments in “large, easily readable font”
Wingdings!!!
- I was actually noticing that the blurb, at least, does not specify a language...
  
  They should have it written in gaelic since the first woman hung for witchcraft in the United States was an Irish servant who didn't speak English very well.
  Apparently being unable to say the Lords Prayer in English is proof you're a witch... so they killed her.
  
  From what I can tell, they didn't bar posters for other religions on the walls next to it.
  
  An Asian language font should do nicely.
  Or perhaps a Farsi font.

If I was a student there I would constantly be taking them down and ripping them up. Or making my own version that looks exactly the same but changes the wording.
- Destruction of property is what you'd get hit with. Could be best to turn it into a project to show how the state/representatives violates each commandment, post those answers next to all the commandments and keep posting those to media until they realize how many of the commandments they don't agree with. And shouldn't be posting.

Which version?
And why that version in particular?

I mean they could be used as a teaching tool... Not to follow fictional deities...

Time to just Blame the Bible for the shit show we are in right now -.-.
Happy Pride. 🌈
I'm an anarchist that loathed doing the pledge of muh legance, as I don't believe in God.
Bless our country my ass. Under God my ass.

Can we add an eleventh commandment?
Thou shall not entwine church and state.

Sounds like something The Satanic Temple may have an issue with.

I can't read it atm. Is there a size requirement?
Language requirement?
Does it HAVE to be readable?
Cause woo are my malicious compliance human mandibles quivering.
- Language requirement?
  👆
  If not - put them up in Esperanto :*)
  
  historically they're in hebrew, not english and the hebrew version is inarguably both more historical and more accurate
- " a poster-sized display of the Ten Commandments in “large, easily readable font” in all public classrooms, from kindergarten to state-funded universities. "
  
  Put the poster up backwards?