Biden Will Try Again to Wipe Out Student Loan Debt for Millions of Borrowers
Biden Will Try Again to Wipe Out Student Loan Debt for Millions of Borrowers

Biden Will Try Again to Wipe Out Student Loan Debt for Millions of Borrowers

Biden Will Try Again to Wipe Out Student Loan Debt for Millions of Borrowers
Biden Will Try Again to Wipe Out Student Loan Debt for Millions of Borrowers
Biden's already eliminated a ton of it. I'm glad to see he's still going on this despite the Supreme Court ruling, and I don't even have student loans.
I have a good job and paid mine off already and I'd still vote like hell to get other's forgiven.
As opposed to the conservative/regressive approach: "I suffered, therefore you should too. Fuck trying to make things better for people who aren't me."
I'm not American and have no student loans and even I'm glad he's doing it. There might be a common stereotype internationally that Americans are fat lazy assholes, but to tell you the truth, the Americans I know or have met have been the absolute nicest people I know. The ones I work with regularly are also crazy hard workers. There's a lot of potential for good in the US, but oppressive economic systems get in the way for a lot of people and it's just heartbreaking to see.
I myself would love to live in the US, I'd live a very comfortable life as a software engineer, but I just couldn't do it to my future children (there's one well on the way) - the knowledge that they might have to go into debt for medical or education reasons is just too much for me. And while I have a good career, I'll probably never be truly financially independent to the point I could just handle any unexpected expense regardless of magnitude.
Don't think of it as either-or. I doubt I will ever retire but if I do it won't be in the States. I hope my kids go to higher ed and if that happens I am most likely going to push them to go to Germany for it. I have to get dental surgery so the next time I am abroad is when I am going to get it done.
He never stopped. As soon as the SC struck the original plan down he started the longer process. It’s been in motion the whole time.
IIRC a lot of it was already in motion before SCOTUS ruled on it, as a backstop.
Mine will likely never be eliminated unless it all goes away because I make too much, and that’s totally fine by me. I want as many people to get relief as possible! Public colleges and universities should be free, and student debt should not be a thing. At least not the way it is now.
I feel happy when someone in this position can say this instead of the ol' "I did it so you should suffer too" to type logic haha
You deserve relief too. Maybe not all of it but just because you're one of the lucky few that won the job lottery. Still, everyone deserves an education, especially those who will use it to their full advantage.
Like you will be paying it off forever? Or unlikely to be forgiven? Because those both suck but one is unacceptable
Good. Keep taking advantage of those loopholes.
I don't know how many times exactly the Republicans have tried to repeal Obamacare but it's at least 70, so yeah I have no problem with Biden hammering on this issue for as long as it takes to get it done.
They'll complain about it until Obama becomes white in 2008. I'm cool with Biden continuing to hammer this issue.
I definitely sympathize with people in college debt, but this feels like just temporary wins and doesn't address the real problems. This won't solve the overpriced cost of education. Forgive debt now, a new crop of students will just go into debt next, right?
We need universities to be completely free, universal single payer health care, drastically cheaper housing to rent and own, etc.
I agree but that would require Congress to do something. Trying to accomplish this through executive actions alone might not actually work, but it at least shows voters clearly which party is willing to take action on this issue, and hopefully we will end up with a Congress that is more in line with the will of the people.
I think this might be my key takeaway. He is wiling to address exactly this problem and might continue in the future. Even if you don't benefit from it, it shows a clear path he is willing to take.
Why do you want free universities for degrees that actually give a net benefit?
And the reason housing is so expensive is directly due to government intervention in housing.
Why do you want free universities for degrees that actually give a net benefit?
It is in your sentence. I want things that offer a net benefit. That's why I like fire departments for example. We all benefit from not having uncontrolled fire about.
Instead of reinforcing bloated college tuition, why not say fuck it and put a ceiling on all tuition?
Are you talking about Biden's efforts specifically or more generally? Because Biden is constrained by:
You’re not wrong. But there are still tools available at the federal level. States also have control over their legal drinking age, but if they want federal assistance for maintaining their roads it has to be 21.
You could set a functional tuition cap by saying Federal Student Aid is only available if tuition is <$15k/year
If that happens, I believe there will be some idiots protest it. Something like "I paid for my full tuition, and so must you!".
More like a lot. The "fuck you, got mine" mindset is unfortunately a common outcome of the "rugged individualism" propaganda perpetuating America.
Here you go, friend.
President Biden will announce a new effort on Monday to reduce or eliminate student loan debt for millions of borrowers, an election-year attempt to revive his goal of providing large-scale relief for Americans struggling to pay off their college loans, a person familiar with the plan said Friday.
Mr. Biden is expected to preview new regulations by the Education Department targeting millions of borrowers, including those whose loans have ballooned because of accrued interest and others who can demonstrate financial hardship impeding repayment, according to the person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the regulations have not yet been formally proposed by the department.
The proposed regulations are set to be published over the next few weeks. Mr. Biden will speak about the effort during a visit to Wisconsin on Monday, which will coincide with an event on student loans with Vice President Kamala Harris in Philadelphia.
The push is a recognition by Mr. Biden and his allies of the disappointment felt by his supporters — especially young voters — when the president’s first attempt to wipe out student debt was blocked by the Supreme Court last summer. The court said that the government exceeded its authority under federal law when it attempted to cancel up to $400 billion in student loans.
Since then, the Biden administration has used existing laws to provide debt relief to smaller pockets of borrowers. Monday’s announcement is expected to eventually reach a larger group, though officials said it would still be more targeted than the across-the-board relief that the Supreme Court already struck down.
Understand Student Debt Relief Under President Biden
Key initiatives. Since he took office, President Biden has had a broad initiative aimed at alleviating the pressure on federal student loan borrowers. Here is where the plans stand:
Income-driven repayment. On August 22, the Biden administration opened for enrollment its new income-driven repayment plan, known as SAVE, in which borrowers’ monthly payments are tied to their income and family size. It will enable millions of borrowers to significantly cut their monthly federal payments, eventually by as much as half.
Once the proposed regulations are officially published in the Federal Register, it will still be months before they can go into effect because of a required public comment period. Biden administration officials expect that the new rules are likely to be challenged in court, which could further delay any reductions in debt.
Officials have said they believe the new proposed regulations would be more likely to survive legal challenges because they are based on a different federal law and they are more targeted to people in specific situations. The president’s previous effort was based on the Heroes Act, which allows the education secretary to waive debt during an emergency; the current regulations would be authorized by the Higher Education Act.
Politically, the timing is critical for Mr. Biden as he battles former President Donald J. Trump for another term in the White House.
The president’s popularity among young people, a group that was critical to his 2020 victory, has dropped significantly in the past several years. A December poll conducted by The New York Times and Siena College found that Mr. Biden is trailing Mr. Trump among voters 18 to 29, which is a dramatic turnabout. In 2020, Mr. Biden won that group by 20 percentage points.
Officials at the White House and the Education Department declined to comment on the expected regulations, which were reported earlier by The Wall Street Journal.
What you should know. The Times makes a careful decision any time it uses an anonymous source. The information the source supplies must be newsworthy and give readers genuine insight.
Learn more about our process. But details about the proposed rules have been discussed and debated for months in a series of public hearings with stakeholders. Transcripts of those meetings and drafts of the proposed regulations provide a road map for the administration’s announcement.
On Feb. 22, the department released a draft of a regulation titled “Forgiveness due to likely impairment of borrower ability to repay or undue costs of collection.”
The proposed language in the regulation said that the U.S. education secretary could waive student debt when it was determined that “a borrower has experienced or is experiencing hardship related to such a loan such that the hardship is likely to impair the borrower’s ability to fully repay the federal government or the costs of enforcing the full amount of the debt are not justified by the expected benefits of continued collection of the entire debt.”
That regulation listed 17 factors to consider when assessing whether a borrower qualifies for the hardship waiver. Those include: household income and assets, student loan balance, total loan balance, age, disability, high cost burdens for essential expenses such as health care, and “any other indicators of hardship identified by the secretary.”
On Dec. 11, discussions about potential new regulations included a proposal to allow the education secretary to waive student debt when the total amount owed by a borrower exceeds the original principal on the loan because of accrued interest.
“The secretary may waive the lesser of $20,000 or the amount by which a borrower’s loans cumulatively have a total outstanding balance that exceeds the original principal balance of the loans,” said the proposed text for the regulation distributed at the meeting.
The actual regulations published are likely to differ, at least slightly, from the ones discussed in the public meetings, the person familiar with the discussions said. But Mr. Biden is expected to embrace help for those with financial hardship and those with high balances because of accumulated interest.
JUST DO IT!
DON'T LET YOUR DREAMS BE DREAMS!
DO IT!
The only thing standing in his way in previous attempts was the Republicans.
I will maybe purchase a home before I’m dead. I don’t have a useless degree. In fact, it’s an in-demand field and the salary was considered respectable when I began. Cost of living increases have eaten away at that. But my other choice was to continue to be an assistant at poverty wage. So when the higher salaries and specialties are gatekept by a huge monetary sum you either get a bunch of people with some debt or only the privileged may access knowledge and a brighter future. We have to decide as a society which one we want and stop loathing our neighbors for the system they didn’t create.
Try harder if you want to win a second term. Your liberal base doesn't show up and you lose.
Please Mr.President get this passed before the orange man comes back
Trying is not enough sir
Pretty much all he can do when you have a far right court and congress
He's doing more than he really can, but I also feel this is his way of communicating that he is in fact trying. SCOTUS and the Department of Education has both said it is not within his power, and whether or not I agree, the SCOTUS will likely continue to prevent him from pushing this through.
Realistically our government should be doing much more in aiding people through higher education, but at this point it's like threading a needle.
I am totally for free college. If we can't agree on that, the price should at least be capped or seriously reduced. It seems kind of convienient that the topic is coming up again in an election year. The problem is that both parties are beholden to the military industrial complex. With military recruitment at an all time low, they can't afford to just "give it away" (give it away, give it away, give it away now). The Rethuglicans will use their bullshit "bootstrap" argument, because they only give a shit about a problem when it affects them directly. The Demohypocrites will wring their hands and pretend to try to do something while ceding ground to Repubs so they can make a show of it. It's the corporations that own both parties, and nothing is going to change until we kick these entrenched douchebags out on their asses.
Also, look how easy it is for Congress and POTUS to approve billions for war in Ukraine and billions in money and weapons to keep the genocide in Israel going (with all of the afforementioned hand-wringing, of course).
"Try."
You’d rather he doesn’t?
The headline: "Biden passes new round of student loan forgiveness!"
The article: "Asian American rail workers earning between $5000 and $7000 per year, who are veterans of the Vietnam War and are currently experiencing homelessness, will now have their student loans forgiven under Biden's new sweeping legislation."
I am all for it. Just wish it didn’t take a genocide for his numbers to dip far enough to need the PR boost
He has been working on student loan forgiveness well before the Gaza conflict
Not to mention plan b is still in the works
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/30/biden-revive-student-debt-relief-00104482
Biden has been against it far longer than he's been for it. I'm voting for him, but let's not pretend he's a good guy here. He had his opportunities to do something and he refused, despite his fellow Democrats begging him to act. He refused to extend the time for the payback; him and no one else.
He has never stated that he's changed his position - he's just thrown out soundbites like he's done so far. No actual action has taken place other than what was already happening without him. He's sped up some already existing processes. Whoopee.
The "genocide" blame is bullshit, mostly from trolls and the deliberately uninformed. Biden has been all over Israel from the start to not react "over the top".
This is obvious disinformation.
The fact that you put genocide in quotes says everything anyone needs to know about your non-existent morality.
Biden has definitely been all over israel, as in all over kissing their ass for his entire career.
Stupidest fucking thing I've read on lemmy.
But, that is to be expected from someone evil enough to put genocide in quotes.
Well, he doesn't need to bail out Israel so he doesn't need to recover that debt, but he will bail out Israel so he will recover that debt.
He's also wiping out tens of thousands of women and children in Palestine.
If Democrats were as persistent in pursuing the policies they claim they support as Biden has been about this issue (and only this issue), we would have a living wage nationwide and universal healthcare.
And yet those students don't vote
Sounds like you know something Biden's campaign team doesn't.
Not really a great analogy though, is it, since Biden wasn't the one who pulled the football up the first time. His administration has also been working constantly, using every way they can, to forgive as much student loan debt as possible. That's after the SCOTUS ruling.
Say what you will about him, but Biden has shown that, at least on this issue, he's doing everything in his power to get rid of as much as possible. And he's already changed the lives of hundreds of thousands of borrowers... Again, after his plan got shot down.
I wouldn't be surprised if they get this done in time for the election... They will try to get the timing right though so it motivates people to vote.
https://educationdata.org/student-loan-debt-statistics
Best of luck trying to eliminate the problem you helped create, Joe. Looks like you made a nice little dent in 2023!
Prior to 2020, that line has an r^2 of 1, so I'd say he's doing a great job at breaking the trend.
Wasn't there just an article on here about how the richest 1% of Americans (maybe it was globally) made 14.xx trillion in 2023? So 10% of that wealth from a single year could wipe out all student debt. I bet that's less than what they evade in tax liability.
He's doing a lot more than any Republican would ever do.
He better, seeing as how he was a critical part of the problem: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/02/joe-biden-student-loan-debt-2005-act-2020
You've unironically shown that he is making an impact. Since taking office the rate of increase slowed down to the point that actual debt has gone down.
Presidents can seldom make decisions that show immediate results and drop things instantly, especially if they don't also have Congress. Where you can see their effect is on the derivative of numbers like this, and that is a decidedly better graph.
Yeah, I showed that he barely made a dent. The problem is that most of that is forgiving loans for:
So the low-hanging fruit is gone and this is the best we can expect of this trend. Reminder that it only got this bad because of biden in the first place: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/02/joe-biden-student-loan-debt-2005-act-2020
Saw a comment elsewhere on kbin saying he didn't care/doesn't want to do this and that anyone who believes it is brainwashed.
So you saw an idiotic comment and decided to idiotically spew it further. Nice.
He’s done it? And will continue to do it. What someone thinks privately doesn’t matter as much as what they do, at least when it comes to politics
I guess my wife was brainwashed into thinking that the student loan that she had been paying for 20 years and was still well into 6 figures was forgiven because of Biden.
Get the fuck out of here with your bullshit. This policy is giving relief to real people.
Alright... Your point being?
"I saw it on kbin so it must be true" lol ok
It is kbin...
Clearly Biden has an infinite money supply and could go around Congress at any moment. Why doesn't he just pay for all of it?
Lmfao
Edit: it's funny cuz it sounds familiar, hope he does but we'll see
Its not quite the right context yet, but I made this just in case.
I love that it looks like "biden" is the guy in the back and not the one shooting. Seems accurate for everyone blaming everything on Biden no matter what.
Also, that every single aspect of this gif is either opposite or irrelevant to the news. It's impressive.
Oh, just in time for another election...gee, what a coincidence.
And, if by some miracle, he doesn't lose to Trump, he'll be just fine and dandy when some "administrative/process complication" blocks it, just like last time.
You must have missed it. When he tried the first time, the Supreme Court stopped him. It wasn't a conspiracy by Biden's administration. And since then his administration has been successfully canceling student loan debt for certain subsections of the population.
I hope you're young and this is your idealism talking, otherwise you're just delusional.
I've been through too many election cycles, and worked on enough campaigns, to see this as anything but the empty campaign rhetoric that it is.
But hey, please come back and rub this "L" in my face if that promised debt relief ever comes through.
Did you forget he started another legal process that is underway and takes time to complete?
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/30/biden-revive-student-debt-relief-00104482
Green Party US members, if elected in higher positions, could fight student debt even harder than Genocide Joe.
Shame the Green Party doesn't seem to care about any races other than President. Maybe a Green majority Congress could eliminate all debt, but having Congressional representation isn't a priority of theirs. It's rather telling.
Leave them alone, they're all Red Green colorblind.
"if" doing a lot of work here.
Making poor financial decisions should not be rewarded.
I agree. Then we should never bail out any industry without public ownership. Also having 2 part times to not pay benefits for one full time shouldn't be rewarded via public benefits for poor earners.
Until we do these things that affect the wealthier, we should get some more equity down here.
Edit: gosh I'm bad at wording this. Tldr: until we make a better plan to level the playing field: we need more and more equity.
I used to feel this way, until I heard how predatory the loans actually are. One woman on John Oliver's segment about it was paying a little over $700/month towards her student loans. Of that, only about $70 of it was actually going towards the principle of the loan, the rest was interest.
Another woman had paid $90k over ten years on her $80k in loans, and still owed $70k. That is just absolute horseshit, no other loan that I know of operates that way outside of payday loans, which an education loan should absolutely not be.
If he can't get the debts forgiven, they should at least cap the interest at no more than 2% so people can actually pay them off. Or make them dischargeable through bankruptcy, but something has to give. Until John Oliver's segment, I didn't realize how bad things were for a lot of people, and while I have no student loan debt (GI Bill for me, fortunately), I still feel for them.
Where is the utility in keeping people in a never ending cycle of student loan debt?
Come on now. Why won't somebody think of the economic parasites? :P
It does suck, but people who go to college know how much they're going to pay. If anything, they should consider starting at a community college. Specialized schools (e.g. nursing schools, pilot school, etc.) often come with higher costs, but people need to weigh the potential benefits against the expenses. Community colleges offer more affordable options for foundational coursework before transferring to a specialized school if needed. Also, a significant portion of students already recieve some form of financial aid.
We pressure teenagers as soon as they are old enough to take on debt to take a huge predatory loan, in a system where teaching personal finance is not a requirement of the education system. We tell kids growing up that their lives will be miserable if they don't go to college, and make them feel that there is no other rational choice but to take on debt.
The government backs this system that prohibits bankruptcy and traps young people in extreme debt before their adult lives have even begun, all so that lenders can make fortunes off of interest payments - lenders that include the government itself.
So, yes, you're right, terrible economic decisions like that should not be rewarded. Borrowers should be forgiven 100% and the lenders who created this mess should be kicked to the curb.