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French President [Emmanuel Macron] publicly congratulates Clair Obscur: Expedition 33, calling the Game of The Year win "a historic first"

www.eurogamer.net French President publicly congratulates Clair Obscur: Expedition 33, calling the Game of The Year win "a historic first"

French President Emmanuel Macron has once again publicly congratulated Sandfall Interactive for Clair Obscur: Expeditio…

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- Steam reviews are comedy gold.

I did myself the disservice of watching a synopsis of the game to see what the hype is all about. All spoilers known.
Holy shit am I going to buy the hell out of this game anyway.
- It does have a lot of replay value because the gameplay loop is tight, and the foreshadowing work is so outstandingly tight that every in-game conversation has a second layer of meaning once you know the story twists.
  Also they added a photo mode and I kinda wanna do a NG+ just for that.
- Honestly, I think knowing might help get through chapter 1. You know something's up almost immediately, but they drag the mystery out way too long for my patience, where I felt like I was being fucked around with and having my time wasted. I would have dropped it if not for my partner insisting I'd like it, and the rest of the story did end up being worth it.

Macron always has a knack to try to use things popular with younger people to score political gains. Infamously with the ZEvent, for instance.
It is now traditional for them to answer with "Shut your mouth Macron, this isn't about you".
- Well, with old and elderly people you get Trump, Putin and Netanyahu; so I am fine with broadly politicians to catch younger generations.
  
  Compared to dictators (or wannabe), I get that Macron seems attractive. But he's proven to be pro-rich (taxes on the rich have been drastically cut under Macron) and anti-democratic (he's ignored the result of the last election and nominated a plethora of prime ministers from parties who lost).
  
  You really think Macron has done good for France?

I do have a question playing this game: how many decided to play with French language and subs? Somehow it feels that is the way intended with this game
- Nope, even tho the game is french, the original is English and French is a dub. They even splurged for well known/good english voice actors. But french dub is also good, so you can go for it if you want. Try both for a few minutes and decide which one you want, I guess?
  
  Yeah I'm French and I actually played it in English... Mostly for Jennifer English
  
  Akshully both are dubs, but the script and mocap sessions were done in English. On top of that the French dub was outsourced and the game director and lead writer weren't in the studio like for the English dub, and it shows IMO. Some French lines clearly don't have the same level of direction as the "canonical" dub.
  However I will say it's still a better dub than most French dubs. I'd argue the bar is on the floor but the francophone dubbing lobby would draw and quarter me for holding such heretic opinions.
- The English VA is really good and if you don't speak French you will miss some characterizing lines. Combat barks and such aren't subtitled, and neither is what little passive chatter between NPCs there is.
- English Esquie is one of the most delightful things I've ever had the joy of experiencing. He's voiced by the same person in both, but in French he just sounds French. In English he gets to have a French accent. Every character with a French accent is at odds with the main cast in a way that's very flavorful. It just makes all the Frenchness really pop, like mixing sweet and salty.
- I've been told the French is rather mediocre compared to the English.
  
  I'm french, and I found it really good. But it's only my humble opinion ^^. All my french friends played it in french, and none of them found it bad to my knowledge.
- Daym, I'm very interested in sprucing up my french and this sounds like a great way to do that.
- I switched to french with English subtitles.... Because Mielle sounded like Shadowheart. It was fine for most stuff, but all of the jump/dodge/hit sounds, it sounded just like her.
  Disadvantages of common voice actors....
- Played in French. Wish that was the original version. Especially since my understanding is the performance capture was done by a French cast and the English cast that is getting all the press and accolades did the voice work exclusively.
  I would have preferred if the voice and facial animation was targeted to the French language. I don't know why European games are so afraid of not being in English. If Persona can do it so can E33. Or maybe not? Certainly the cast was a selling point, so what do I know.

It meets the hype. Fully.
Absolute. Cinema!

Shut your mouth Macron, this isn't about you

French president holding to shred of relevancy and noteworthiness tries to coopt national success he had nothing to do with. Now to our main story tonight, is the weather getting colder?
- Well, in UK the queen was used to make lords people that had great merit for the nation: Sir Sinclair for the quite popular zx spectrum and Sir Terry Prachett for amazing narrative, on turtle, universe he crafted.
  I don't remember there was any requirements on political side (queen or parliament) to acknowledge people's merit to the nation.

I still cannot get into the mood to finish it. I just got the bouncy giant and moody boy #2, but I'm too zapped to continue. It needs to become an animated series like Arcane

So... hold on, is it "a historic first"? I guess the TGAs haven't been around that long. There have definitely been major GOTY awards for French games before, though.

Now want to try it less Macron has horrible judgement no reason to assume his gaming judgement is different.
- Its a pretty fab game, idiot endorsement or not

I loved the fight mechanics and I'm sure there was a good story in there if I cared but one thing that really grinded my gears was the goddamn cutscenes. Not only that but the incessant cut scene that leads into another cut scene that leads into another cut scene. Seriously I spent half the game skipping cut scenes.
- Could be worse, could be a marathon run of the Metal Gear series with a ban on skipping cutscenes. Also the fuck did you expect from an aggressively French JRPG style game, FFS JRPGs are defined by their cutscenes.
  
  I don't play JRPGS and never played metal gear. I played Clair because I heard of the sekiro type mechanics and was interested.
- I mean, the whole point of the game is the storyline. The combat is really mostly secondary to it.
- Probably full of propaganda. Why would any president care?
  
  Wtf? Lol
  Outside of America many countries have a strong sense of pride especially when something is overtly representing them and their culture.
  As a Canadian if they made this game with hockey and toques I'd damn well expect the prime minister to applaud them when they won game of the year too.
  
  I'm assuming you're 14, so I'll explain in simple terms: the game is a success, the game is French, the president of France is celebrating that the game of the year is French. In the process, he is trying to make himself look good.

I just don‘t like the game because it has turn based combat. Like it‘s an RPG but you can‘t demolish foes with reaction skills. Where‘s the fun in that?
- You actually can smoke foes with parries and reactive skills.
  
  That‘s atleast something. I just saw some screenshots and didn‘t like how it looked.
  To me, combat needs to have positioning and creative interaction with terrain to be fun, which is why I love FromSoft games and soulslikes in general.
- Imagine being this clueless.
  
  I don't like it because its French.
  
  I watched gameplay and it looked boring af. Miitopia for the 3DS had better turn based combat than this.

Even more of a reason for me to never want to play it
- Imagine not playing a videogame because some guy in France likes it and he also (and I'm only guessing here, but this is lemmy) supports Israel
  
  Macron has done worse.
  
  Macron liking it is just the cherry on top, I also just really hate jrpgs
- If you don't like the games that other people make, then why don't you macron?
  
  Can you elaborate? I feel like I am missing context or some words in your comment for it to male sense to me.

I need a distinction between VIDEO games (interactable videos with fail cases so it's a game in the end but barely) and video GAMES (games you can see and not imagine, like basketball: no story, no progression, just rule based win/lose thing)
- why?
  
  So as a customer my selection process is shorter. The label "Video game" is getting too big that it's becoming useless. Imagine all the citrus fruits were called citrus fruits. I mean yeah but I wanna know if I'm buying an orange or a lemon, I like both but not in the same situation.
  edit: I couldn't stop thinking about the fruits: Citrus with sugar elements, Aroma driven Citrus
- I think you're looking for "genres", the problem isn't the term "video games".
- Sure, you have walking simulators and Bomberman. There you go.
- Bro couldn't finish the prologue because their attention span is 10 minutes and somehow thinks the game has more cutscenes than content.

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