Foreign tourists could be required to disclose 5 years of social media histories under Trump administration plan
The Customs and Border Protection proposal would apply to travelers from more than 40 countries.
Yet another reason to avoid the US as a tourist. Looks like hotels and airlines did not bribe Trump sufficiently.
People are already boycotting the us, they don't need another reason.
Tourism is only down 30% or so. So maybe they do need more reasons.
Is this 30% down in foreign tourist (like people crossing border with the intention of a tourist visit) or 30% down in tourist industry revenue?
If it's revenue that's huge. Because a lot of tourism is just Americans going to tourist destinations. Though I'm sure some of that drop is coming from Americans also not being able to afford vacations.
If it's 30% down of actual foreign tourist travel that's less than I'd expect too. But still beyond devastating to the tourist industry. Between that and the explosion of online gambling, I know Vegas is hurting so much right now.
Ok so if I have to travel to the US for work, I will now require my employer to give me a burner phone with a burner number.
How will they prove that I have any social media history?
It depends on their relationship with the social media companies. There's a good chance companies like Meta have already given the authorities a lot of data on their users. US law enforcement might already know about some of your accounts based on your identity, and then claiming you have none might not work well.
Does this hold true if you don't use any meta apps? Or maybe no meta apps except WhatsApp or something which is not a public discourse medium anyway?
Have you heard about 'age verification' to 'protect the children'? You too will be age verified. They will know all your accounts. That's the whole point of age verification. It is to eliminate anonymity.
If you can't prove Social Media history, you don't get in, they arrest you, and deport you without due process to a life sentence in an El Salvador torture prison where you'll never be heard from again.
Just tell your employer you're not going.
My employer issues us with a wiped laptop that we can restore from cloud storage over our VPN once we're in-country. Before we return, we back it up and scrub it again. When I go to the US, I always bring a low-functioning burner phone as well.
How will they prove that I have any social media history?
Hard to say what the US government knows, or admits to knowing, about your social media usage. I almost completely stopped using social media a few years ago, except for Lemmy, and overwrote all my posts with lorem ipsum, as well as never having accessed it before that without using a VPN and doing some other obfuscation, so it'd take some effort to associate me with anything but some boring Facebook and LinkedIn updates I maintain so that certain people can still get in touch with me.
Just tell them you were born yesterday
Facial recognition software.
If it's a US based company, the NSA has all of your web traffic to the site.
You already need to provide all this for a work visa.
The US are really working hard to get prohibition, 30's great depression, and McCarthyism all at once.
Some other things from the 30s, too.
The snazzy European uniforms?
Speed run
I don't even remember all the reddit account I had in the previous 5 years
Off to El Salvador with you!
Why did you have more than 1?
to spread out , risk mitigation of reddits tendancies to ban people. i had accounts for certain niches that doesnt want to interact more "controversial" subs. unfortunately this year around reddit filters targeted all accounts at once as potential spam, ban evasion.
Change every so and on to maintain some sense of privacy, it won't work against reddit or th US gov, but at least may avoi that people look too far in my comment history, then I had to deal with a ban... for telling people to move to lemmy
Lots of mods will dig through your history and ban based on activity in other subs. Having themed accounts helps segment your content. I had separate accounts for hobbies, anything political, and local stuff. I don't want those things linked.
I also deleted accounts every so often to start fresh. Except for the hobby one, that was neutral enough that I let it stay until I completely left Reddit.
most of them wouldve been banned already, or become shadowban, if they suddenly became active. reddit now sees inactive accounts and new accounts as potential botting.
I feel sorry for anyone who has to go for work; I imagine tourists will choose another place to go.
A lot of places are finding workarounds in order to not deal with this and potentially open up serious legal avenues. I know my company is actively avoiding sending anyone here from anywhere else because of shit like this.
It's not a real possibility for me, but I'd absolutely say no, if anyone tried to send me there.
You think it's going to stop there? US citizens will soon have to do the same, or be on the no fly list.
Those lazy fucks, they've already had those data for years!
I will stop flying if it comes to that
Luckily you guys have land borders. Unluckily they might start patrolling them for people escaping too.
It's like getting banned from smacking my own balls with a hammer.
Oh noes!
You realize that you don't have to go to Florida?
But how else am I supposed to pet the alligators? Do you seriously expect me to go all the way to Africa to pet the crocodiles in the Nile instead?
"In addition to social media histories, Customs and Border Protection would add other new data collection fields, including email addresses and telephone numbers used in the last five years, as well as the addresses and names of family members, the notice reads."
Wtf I was planning to visit NYC but this is crazy man.
sounds like they want to feed it into AI and other survellience tech like palintir.
We have already postponed our Disney trip until the cheeto is gone.
I am prepared to go to Europe or Japan instead though if America can't figure its issues out.
And I suppose I'll continue my plan of staying the hell away until this administration is long gone
This feels pretty hard to enforce, are they gonna let people self select what they provide or are they perhaps going to give a list of services to give accounts for? The latter would have me looking either like a ghost that disappeared about 7 years ago (for most public social media) or one that disappeared about 3 years ago (if Reddit is included)
What happens to people who don't use social media at all? Are they going to be treated with suspicion?
until this administration is long gone
Based on past performance, the next Democrat administration will repeal maybe 50% of these changes at most.
they almost never fully repeal any invasive piracy legislation when they get into power, which is why they are called republican lite.
We're probably going to find out eventually. For instance, I have never once in my life had any manner of account for any traditional social media. Just reddit (not anymore) and here. That's it.
So good luck with that, fuckers.
I've only used Reddit (also not anymore) and here. None of the more traditional social media such as Facebook, Xitter, TikTok, and whatever else people are using these days.
Oh, I do have a LinkedIn. I only update it when I change jobs.
Lol yeah just keep pushing people away you fascist fucks.
Your world is closing in, and soon a cross hair will be in visible.
The history you follow is your doom.
I don't know why anyone is still visiting the Untied States but I hope this deters them
funny they dont report in the news how the red areas that are dependant on tourism is actually doing. the gop dont want alarm thier own supporters how bad the situation is, just like they are reporting the news, that trump is using the tariff money to pay off the farmers right now.
Ha! I deleted my Facebook account more than 5 years ago.
Like I would ever want to visit the US under Trump to begin with.
If I'm not mistaken, people who said they don't have any are beeing held for questioning and interrogations, or maybe even denied access. I vaguely remember reading an article about this a while back, so it may not help you as much as you think.
They can (how long can they hold you based on suspicion alone?) and will cause you a lot of trouble if they don't like what you give them.
This is what I've been thinking about. What do they do with people that intentionally avoid social media? Is it simply presumed they're hiding something? To that end, would it make sense to run a 'fake' social media account where they just post and share the most politically neutral/milquetoast memes and commentary just so there's something in their history? I have always disliked the idea that one simply has to interact with social media or else be labeled an outcast/weirdo/suspicious person.
It feels like it comes from the same school of thought that the Internet and/or computers need to be used for everything...i don't like the way society continues moving away from "real" methods of paying bills and handling important personal affairs by replacing the old ways with "better" online alternatives. There are definitely benefits to both approaches, i just don't like when a "paper option" gets eliminated entirely in favor of electronic.
Just having a senior moment over here, please forgive my rambling 👴
I could see them detaining you simply for having linux on your laptop. If they can't navigate around it then you're obviously up to no good. I don't use a display manager and could see them cuffing me simply because you need to login to my machine via TTY and know which WM i'm using.
What makes them think that I even have a 5 year old account on any social media platform?
"Sorry, you can't enter the US unless you have a social media account"
Unless you have a FIVE YEAR OLD Social Media account.
This is social media. It also includes email accounts and phone numbers.
Wow. Even China doesn't do that.
edit Might be that they don't need to get it from you
Ikr? Yet people are so afraid to visit China by contrast...
(Not that I blame theme)
Lest we forget the Michaels.
Between China and the US I'd currently be less worried about visiting China. And I'm a white dude who has bashed the CCP online plenty.
china cares more about money, they do suppress news about thier country often to not scare away tourists.
🤦🏻♀️ What about the people who don't use social media? Or have used social media for less than 5 years?
Or people who disclose a suspiciously wholesome 5 years of social media use? Or use social media platforms that allow backdated posts - how well are those going to be scrutinised?
Why am I even asking? This is all so stupid. People only want to travel to places where they won't be immediately grilled on what they think of the dictator. (...Out of curiosity, what's the process like for North Korea? Strictly for comparison.)
I'm pretty sure the only posts I've put on Facebook in the past five years are all a version of, "Hey, I'm just checking in so y'all know I'm still alive." I haven't updated my personal information on there in about a decade.
If they find out, out the door you go.
I've been sending emails to hotel companies and urging them to oppose this. I urge you to contact your congresspeople and also companies in the travel, hospitality and tourism industry and demand they oppose this policy and more broadly ask them to stand up to Trump because he's causing people to rightfully boycott the US.
Also to everyone who is boycotting the US thank you so so much, I'm really grateful and as are so many Americans who also hate what the Trump regime is doing. The more people who boycott the more pressure it will put on companies to finally stand up against the Trump regime.
Yeah man, just remember we love you guys despite your insane government.
Chill bro, we didn't need another reason not to visit. We got it.
None of you better come here. I'm not saying this because I don't want you here, I'm saying it because we are literally on fire right now. We have a lot of finding out to do.
Check under your couch for Russians. Or Venezuelans. Or is it Chinese? Whatever it is, it's certainly not a home-made problem.
More realistically: tourists will just stop coming here.
Maybe that's the intent?
I mean it genuinely is, seems like others are still in denial and not getting the message.
European: Haha, yeah I hate foreigners too! Now, onto our vacation in the Florida Keys-
Trump: No, you. I meant you. Get out.
He's getting his buddies those covid-era interest rates, one way or another. Our sacrifices are ones he's willing to make.
Pages 732 and 736 of project 2025 (50% complete already btw) outline the "suffolk banking system" that they're forcing.
Combine SCOTUS ruling on the 14th amendment in summer of 26 and you can start to see the narrative of canceled midterms. Dude jerks off to the thought of surpressing riots
More and more non-usa folks no longer want to see Mickey Mouse, Hollywood or the one-armed bandits.
Or, and hear me out on this, he can fuck right off.
Then again I'm not the target for this type of tyrannical despotism because there's absolutely no chance I'd ever willingly visit that place.
You're not the target yet
I'll start creating and selling accounts.
This is our daily reminder that the Republican party has revoked the US Constitution in its entirety.
Lol - looks like my old man is never getting to the US. He posts at least 1 meme a day on Facebook that comedically shits on Trump. It's become something of an obsession.
Meanwhile, my brother-in-law is hoping to get to Boston with my nephew to watch Scotland play at the world cup. He's been frantically un-liking dad's posts and deleting his own for days.
Wow. Next year's World Cup is going to be either the biggest debacle, or played to empty stadiums (in the USA anyway). What a complete and utter fuck up.
Dear Trump administration... I've already decided never to visit the US, you don't have to sell it to me.
Soon it will be easier to visit North Korea than the USA, which I suspect is the plan.
Is a presence on Gopher and IRC cosidered social media?
Another reason to never set foot in the fascist states of dumberikkka ever again!!
Hey now, to be fair we're a vassal state of ruzzia.
How on earth can the people who voted for this piece of shit not see him for the coward that he is?
People who wanted this to happen so they can turn the country into another isolated ethnic state.
This should be in Not the Onion. This is so farcical.
Why not just ban tourism. Wouldn't that be easier?
I wouldn't be surprised if that's what's next.
And then banning us from travel.
That video was awesome.
Yea yea got it, US geography is all nice and that but I am not trying to visit there until there is zero chance of getting detained by ICE or border control "because of reasons".
You can always be white and rich, that usually works.
Not that I'd ever go to that shithole but what fucking social media?
FIFA world cup is going to be a shit show.
That's WILD hahahaha
I understand relatives and work, but anyone out there who is still "touring" the US at this point deserves their Darwin Award.
No thanks
Ah, classic
Even after Trump is gone, I'm determined to never say foot in the states again. I always wanted to go to DEFCON though. Guess that isn't going to happen unless it moves.
Good thing I never deleted my linkedin, that should be much cleaner than fediverse accounts
The joke's on them. I've been gone from facebook for 10 years lol
Pass
