Is not you. I'm just lazy.
Is not you. I'm just lazy.

Is not you. I'm just lazy.

Distro hoping is fine. But there is a certain feeling you get when you can fix your own problems by reading the arch wiki
I love fixing arch by reading the arch wiki, or fixing ubuntu reading the arch wiki
I set up my login manager for fedora and my grub for fedora using the arch wiki....
I tried to find a solution for my failing marriage in the arch wiki. The arch wiki instructed me that the problem was consulting the arch wiki. Thanks for saving my marriage, arch wiki!
or fixing windows by only using WSL and reading the arch wiki
How to enter arch wiki if no internet
On your other Arch laptop, obviously. You need multiple pre-owned ThinkPads loaded with Arch at any given time to maintain workable redundancy, just like you need several clean pairs of programming socks.
Phone or use an offline copy
Another option that's available is hosting your own Kiwix instance and downloading the Arch Wiki .zim file.
I have a few other .zim's from the Kiwix library including Alpine Wiki, Stack Overflow, Man pages and a full copy of Wikipedia. There's a lot available at that Kiwix library which can make for a good offline digital library.
Just download it and setup on your own server
Whenever I have a Linux box without Internet I just USB tether an Android phone---if the phone is on WiFi then it uses that (not cell), so it's basically just a WiFi adapter that's almost universally supported. (I think it NATs, so in some circumstances won't work, but good enough for most emergency use cases.)
I am a nerd with many computers. That helps.
you can download the arch wiki on kiwix (for android), it's like 30 megabytes
I use the Arch wiki for non arch stuff
That and the man pages
You ever read the man pages for mount?
You guys read man pages?
Distro hoping is fine.
Yeah. I hope my distro keeps working as smooth as always. I really hope.
I won‘t lie the Arch Wiki has not helped me once. Odd threads in the forums or 2 minute long Youtube videos, though? Couldn‘t make it without those.
Total oposite experience for me.
Honestly. Arch has taught me a lot.
Me: Oh and Mint, could you also add my old printer that I can't get to work on any other OS I've tried?
Mint: Sure thing.
Ha. On Windows I had this ancient Ethernet Canon IP printer. Windows hated it, even with the supplied Canon drivers and network Utility. It always needed messing with every time to get it to show up as a printer on the network.
When I moved to OpenSUSE I went into YAST2 printer discovery. It found the printer right away, and suggested a model, and asked if I wanted to install the GutenPrint driver for it. Yes please. And do you want to announce this printer to others on your network (via CUPS) Yes. Done. Worked 100% with no Canon utilities.
me: hey mint, suspend automatically.
mint: no.
me: suspend manually then.
mint: no.
me: shutdown
mint: no.
....
sudo shutdown now
Mint: It's already set up
My experience has been the opposite. I built a new PC last year, and only Fedora and Arch recognized the Radeon GPU and the Intel Wi-Fi. Mint was shipping a kernel that was too old to recognize either one.
Agreed. Out of all the distributions I have tried, Fedora (and its various spins and derivatives) are what tend to have everything actually work out of the box.
My first distro has been Nobara after swapping off windows.
It really is dummy proof.
For those on the edge. Just do it. Windows 11 is free to go back to. You risk nothing by giving Linux a try.
Opensuse Tumbleweed tho
On new hardware it's generally easier to use a rolling release distro in my experience.
You're more likely to have a newer kernel and drivers that support things like wifi cards.
IMO, you shouldn't have to learn Arch just to be able to get a new PC. Eventually, people who like Ubuntu and Mint are going to want to upgrade to a new computer, and they might be in for a shock once they do. That kind of thing is what pushes people back to Windows.
Mint has a GUI menu where you can select a newer kernel.
Thankfully Ubuntu will focus on shipping the newest kernel each release and Mint's gonna profit of it. Also there's newer kernels you can switch to optionally.
I tried basically every distro on my laptop and fedora worked all hardware 100% out of the box + printer + fingerprint reader + all day battery life
Fedora gnome is so good it makes Linux boring
I wish my fingerprint scanner worked D:
Honestly, the only two problems I have had at all are fingerprint scanner (like, lowest priority for me), and the battery continues to drain quickly even when I close the laptop or put it in sleep mode or whatever it's called
Ah I’m sorry to hear that all I can suggest is trying to look up what your specific hardware is and see if there are any solutions on archwiki or something
I did make sure to get a thinkpad because I heard they have excellent Linux support so it is possible your hardware just doesn’t have a proper solution yet 🤷♀️
But I am not a coder so I don’t really know how to do anything but google and try
Linux being boring is a good thing. I want my OS to be boring. I use Mint, BTW
Unless there is an update and you have to wait for a couple of months to get all the extensions back
And then you just go to extensions.gnome.org and tell to run the extensions anyway by ignoring the GNOME version
Don't have much experience but I run extensions designed for 45 on 49 without any problem
Unfortunately for me GNOME without extensions it's unusable and I don't have the patience to stay 3-4 versions behind to ensure compatibility
Edit: I wrote the wrong URL, it was .org and not .com
Fedora gnome is so good it makes Linux boring
Is this a workflow thing? I was looking at Fedora last week and I'm interested to hear what you like about it.
I'm on Cinnamon and made everything look like OSX, but it seemed like gnome would have a learning curve. And as much as KDE looks like Windows NT, something a touch more modern does seem nice.
Lol KDE looks like windows NT? Uh... No.
Wobbly windows is best thing ever by the way.
KDE looks like whatever you want.
Gnome extensions can look pretty much exactly like kde or better depending on your taste, kde is easier to customize and more intuitive. I like that gnome is extension based with each extension being something you pick, many having their own customization and settings.
Some extensions I like: Arcmenu: start menu like windows, kde, etc. lots of layout options, replaces the hot corner big icon search menu thing
Dash to dock: use on handheld, perfect touchscreen menu customizable or (use one at a time) Dash to panel: use on desktop, even more customizable, basically gives you a panel since gnome by default has the hot corner android like app menu (which I also use mostly on the handheld, love the hot corner for moving stuff around)
Windows thumbnails (pip any window, monitor downloads or chats)
I use a lot more but forget the names, nothing really breaks if you toggle use incompatible addons or whatever it's called. You can also edit the addon and change the version since that is what the devs do 90% of the time to update it.
I used to use KDE but so many small visual inconsistencies and oddities would annoy me that I was definitely already feeling like trying something else. Also I really like fingerprint login which kde had trouble with.
Switched to gnome just to try and once I setup my extensions it just felt right. (Extension manager downloaded from regular App Store)
Fedora has a great gnome implementation that is preconfigured much better than any other distro I tried. Fractional scaling was available without configuration and gnome’s online account login + fingerprint login also worked out of the box.
Everything just works but my thinkpad is also linux certified which could explain why everything is so easy. Still, other distros required more gnome configuration work and I’d have random problems with sleep mode, Bluetooth, WiFi, etc.
Also, it brings me a little personal peace of mind knowing the distro is supported by fedora and red hat. That is serious institutional support and I think is just a good thing for Linux generally but also could explain why fedora has an edge to me
Me: Btw how old are your packages?
Mint: Its rude to ask the age of a distro
Me: well are the maintained properly?
Mint: uhhhh.... Some of them are
Mint us absolutely perfect for folks like me. I want to use my computer, not work on it. I have Blender, a couple of slicers, GIMP, a couple of DAW type programs and a few other things. Perfect computer. I have no interest in the bleeding edge. Now granted, I don't game, which saves me some grief but I guess kinda marginalizes me these days, and I'm not even hobbyist level savvy in the console, but I do hate both Microsoft and Apple, ta-da!, Mint. If there's a better distro for me, I don't care, I like mint.
Mint us absolutely perfect for folks like me. I want to use my computer, not work on it.
I know you're not going to believe me, because you sound like the type of person who is "set in their ways", but the only thing that makes Mint better for you than some other distro is that it happens to already be installed on your computer. That's it. Mint is not the perfect choice for anyone, because it's not particularly good at anything.
Keep using it. If it works for you, great. I don't care what you use. But we shouldn't be misleading people new to Linux into installing a distro that might not work for them.
Ok, good for you I wasn't arguing
That's a big part of why I switched to OpenSuse XD
Most people don't care about version numbers of CLI software/drivers. For GUI apps there's flatpak/snap or whatever is the official method a dev chose.
If I put my Mint computer to sleep, the wifi adapter stops working completely. 🤡
First thing to do on most linux distros, but especially mint, is turn off everything sleep-related forever.
I feel like no OS can get sleep to work properly lol
I've literally never had a problem with this....that I know about.
What are you all turning off?
Ha! It's the one issue that's been giving me the biggest headache through multiple distros. To be fair I believe most of my problems originate from Nvidia hardware and software.
God yes, it was fucking with my partners graphics drivers, and killed most games I have running.
I've been having this exact same problem. I don't have a fix, but hey, comradery.
It's annoying, but it isn't feeding my data into the AIs.
This was my exact experience with Manjaro.
Usual suspect, the Wi-Fi/Bluetooth card. Milk spoils? Wi-Fi/Bluetooth Card! Freshly divorced? Wi-Fi/Bluetooth card!
Not true, sometimes it's DNS.
I used to had linux mint in an old computer and for some reason the wifi didn't work. I asked a couple of times how to fix it but was ignored everytime. I didn't care because I used it connected it with the network cable, but my wife was really frustrated because she can't take it around the house to listen to music and so. After a while of me telling her that I would fix it, she got really mad and told me that if in 2 weeks the wifi of that wasn't working she would pay a technician to install windows on it. So I came back, not asking for a fix for the wifi bit for other distro easy to use like Mint and talked about the reason why I was leaving mint. And now, of course, people was willing to help me fix the wifi and even wrote me a script to execute on start to fix it.
When I first started using Linux, I was told that if I had a problem, I shouldn't give a well-reasoned, well-documented description of what's wrong and what steps I've tried, because everyone will ignore it. Instead, I was told to say that Linux sucks because I'm having this problem and I'd get 3.8 million angry fixes within 10 minutes.
This is true of nearly every topic.
If you're like me and you work with computers for a living and you don't really want to put in the hard work of fixing computers at home, you can do what I did. Which is to download an abliterated local AI and tell it what the problem is and what specs you're working with and it will almost always fix it for you in like five minutes.
And when it doesn't fix it in five minutes, it will destroy your operating system with whatever commands it tells you to paste in a terminal, and you were going to be wiping and reinstalling it anyway, so nothing lost.
all this time spent on setting up a local llm and reinstalling a whole system + setting it up again instead of reading the documentation 😭😭😭
This is how Microsoft develops Azure, except they don't have the option of starting from scratch.
Mfs can't fix a wifi and are asked to install a maintain a local llm server.
she got really mad and told me that if in 2 weeks the wifi of that wasn't working she would pay a technician to install windows on it
That sounds super toxic tbh.
Why? Imagine your house's door doesn't work so you have to make a long trip through the back. You keep asking your partner to fix it. They insist they'll get the door working. Either they can't or don't, doesn't matter, but you have the money and are willing to pay for someone to fix it. Your partner insists they can fix it. I think it's reasonable to say something like "if it's not fixed in two weeks I'm paying someone to fix it."
If OP installs Linux on the machine she uses, something she needs doesn't work, and OP doesn't fix it, she really has no other options.
Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. If OP is unable or unwilling to fix a problem that is important to her, why isn't she allowed to pay someone to fix it?
You wouldn't say its toxic if she threatens to call a plumber after OP promised multiple times to fix the leaking toilet.
Sound more like tongue in cheek to me, but it is impossible to tell from this few sentence comment.
Am I the only MF that prefers Fedora over the other distros?
linus torvalds does too
And his attitude toward distros is that he wants one he can completely ignore
Nope. I bounced through about 5 distros before settling on Fedora. I've been on a little over a year and no real complains from me.
Nope, there are dozens of us. Dozens!
I've been using Fedora for a long time because it's actually up to date and tends to have the best of what the open source community has to offer, while still having some opinionated defaults to make things run smoothly.
Never had a problem with WIFI drivers. NVIDIA on Wayland however... (not Fedora's fault the proprietary drivers are garbage, its done what it can by at least making them easy to install)
Since when does Facebook have a distro?
That's Fedora
Since when did they change the logo from a fedora to... this bullshit?
i always think that when i see it too. I hate that the logos are so similar
This juxtaposition.
Leaving aside Arch and Nix for the moment... imagine rating Ubuntu over Mint. The depravity of the human mind know no limits.
I don't think this is a rating, but a diagram showing how tall the socks of the users of each distro are
I tried Ubuntu first and my laptop didn't like it, and I wasn't even a little interested in fighting with my computer just to get to use it. The sock scale is probably fair in representing how deep the user wants to get in just to operate. As a Mint user i can say I just dip my feet in Linux to feel the not Windows.
unrelated, but what on green earth happened in the inbox?
They'll never see your question
OP is the femboy in the picture
sometimes lemmy doesn't mark messages you've read and replied to as read, so voyager continues to show as red. the real question isn't "do i have the notification number" it's "has the notification number changed"
for me, inbox zero will remain 105 until i decide to empty the whole thing
as a debian user, i can confirm :)
As a badminton player, we have the same length socks.
Damn, I need to buy longer socks.
You really do not. You're all good.
damn, my socks have been shrinking
I wonder where RHEL would fall in that scale?
probably around the Fedora level, they're fairly equivalent.
The REAL question is, where does Hanna Montana OS fall on the scale?
Fedora gnome was the definition of perfect. It was so stable that it was boring. The KDE one on the other hand….. Let’s say it has never worked for more than a day for me.
Don't you put that evil on KDE, Ricky Bobby!!
If KDE was a woman... I'd take her out for a 3 course meal, split the bill bc she don't need no man to take care of her (or her baby), drive her home using the scenic route, walk with her from the car to her front door, then ask for consent before giving her a goodnight kiss
Back when I last tried LM gnome, it would fail to get to the log-in screen every couple weeks. So far haven't had any major issues with bazzite kde.
Been using Fedora on several laptops and desktops, and haven't had issues with wifi. Or with anything else for that matter. For me, everything in Fedora just works and never breaks.
The first bug I've seen was recently. Apparently an update broke the 'shutdown and update' function in Fedora Workstation. So now when you press it, nothing happens. Then when you try shutting down, the PC will shut down without updating. It'll update and shutdown upon next boot. Can confirm Fedora KDE is unaffected though.
For me, everything in Fedora just works and never breaks.
Apparently an update broke the 'shutdown and update' function in Fedora Workstation.
Hmmmmmmm
I remember this sort of stuff a long time ago. There were wifi drivers that were either linux, but closed source, or horror of horrors having to resort to ndiswrapper...
Of course, the Ubuntu derivatives made this easy enough by just including it, but Fedora was much more purist about open source and so wouldn't even tell you about rpm-fusion, let alone enable proprietary drivers for basic network access.
Now Fedora has edged a bit more practical and proactively let's users know about how to add proprietary stuff and the wifi industry takes Linux seriously, if not for desktop use then for all the embedded use cases they would be left out of without good Linux support. Fedora is still a bit far on the 'purist' side still (try to play a lot of media using dnf provided software, it will tend to break), but not as hard as it used to be)
And Kinonite by extension. I updated and restarted because I like fresh kernels.
Don't judge me, it's my kink OK. In my sad, pathetic little white bread life in the middle of nowhere.
"btw can you please install the latest nvidia drivers?"
"latest?"
switches back to Fedora
Why do I need latest? Why do I need even know version of a driver for my hardware?
NVIDIA drivers still suck on Linux, but each new update has been bringing massive usability improvements lately.
Since the drivers continue to be worked on after the release of the hardware. Some new functionality for new games may be developed. Or bugs may be fixed.
Seems like a dishonest question. Unless you are only using GPU compute professionally with out of date software.
Someone I personally knew almost gave up on Linux because their mint install would have screen tearing issues due to an outdated driver module and kernel, since Mint follows close to Ubuntu's kernel releases which are slow.
Cutting edge and bleeding edge kernels is one of Linux's biggest strengths because 99% of driver modules are in the kernel, so keeping it up to date will significantly reduce the chances of issues with your hardware, especially if its anything new.
You dont need to know the version, but knowing that your updates are based on cutting edge latest stable is what can save you from driver headaches.
I'm still kinda surprised to hear that people are still having trouble with Nvidia drivers. I would have thought that Nvidia would have decided to improve that because of the AI boom. I wonder why they continue being so bad at this 🤔
That is because nearly all of nvidia's revenue comes from AI datacenter hardware now, and before that from crypto miners. As long as CUDA works without issue, their main clients by dollar volume are happy
Have 2 Monitors with different screen resolutions. It crashes more often than windows 95 when I try to alt tab between applications.
I use mint, btw
Literally describes my last couple weeks distro hopping
Computers have a personality and preference of distro based on their hardware
Shopping for wifi adapters is not fun
TLDR; make quadruple sure that the card you're buying uses an Intel chip, and that the chip has drivers in the kernel version you use.
People: don't bother to check if hardware is supported by Linux
Linux: 🤷 Aaah.... yeah, I don't support that... Sorrie? 🤷
People: leenuts suxxx!!!
It's kind of complicated. I've used Linux since Slackware 7 and I still have issues with some drivers.
Sometimes you just already have the hardware. Sometimes the vendor says it's compatible but it's not, or you have to compile drivers from a CD. Sometimes it depends on the version of the kernel used. Sometimes it depends on the architecture. Sometimes conditions change and what's supposed to be working doesn't.
I don't think the meme is blaming Linux, it's just how it is for some people. Some are gonna distro hop, some are gonna compile their own kernel.
If I had a nickle for every time something "supports Linux" but doesn't actually work properly I'd have so many nickles.
Still to this day I cannot get reliable 6ghz wifi on my Intel NICs. Most of the time I get stuck swapping back and forth between 5 and 6 to the point that it's slower than even 2.4. I haven't tried the latest fedora so maybe that's my ticket to good wifi?
All my machines run linux but, I mean, that sounds like a distinction without a difference.
To be fair, between the overzealous pushes from the Linux evangelists, the lack of accessible documentation, the buggyness of some of the common software, and the heavily-relied-upon community support, its usually very hard to tell if your experience will go smoothly or not.
For example, previously, when I had problems with Linux Mint, it was with a pretty bog-standard B350m mobo's built-in sound. According to the dozen or so people I consulted over it, it should have worked, but for whatever reason, didn't. More recently, I decided to take another shot. I knew my mouse (A Razor Naga X) wasn't supported, but google told me Open-Razer covered all the important functionality. This turned out to be wrong, as Open-Razer was mostly for customizing RGB and lacked core functionality like button rebinding.
Don't get me wrong, I still use Linux on some secondary devices, and consider it a (mostly) viable Windows alternative, but blaming all the problems on users ignores the massive number of issues with current Linux desktop.
Funny enough, Fedora just works for me. The live CD convinced me enough to install and then it stopped recognizing the touchscreen and gyro components with my display.
Only after reinstalling on the fourth attempt did Fedora finally pick up my laptop display exactly like it did in the live USB.
Dramatic music
I got two weeks of uni left and afterwards, I'm thinking its time to take the plunge again. I haven't used linux since I threw ubuntu lite or some shit on a cheap netbook 15 years ago. I remember it working pretty well and not having any major issues out of the box.
Then again, it's not like I have any trouble with Windows now. My install is almost perfect for me with everything extraneous ripped out. However, it's more of a moral/philosophical choice at this point to support FOSS and to claw back some of my digital privacy. I wish I could find a way to easily see what software I use will work directly and what I'll need to find replacements for.
Well. I have an issue and I'm just gonna drop it here as a last ditch effort.
In my Mint Software Manager, I noticed that certain data won't come through.
Specifically the reviews are not displayed. All applications have 4.5 stars. No reviews whatsoever.
How could I fix this?
Can you confirm that you are connected to internet?
If you want people to help you, they'll need logs. To get them,
mintinstall in the terminal, then press Enter Send me that and I can give it a look. Can't promise much though, I'm not a Mint user. When you have Mint issues, consider asking in the Mint forum
Try to install Fedora 43 everything goes perfectly installation finished without any problems. Restart and bam I'm in my bios. Restart thinking it'a fluke, bam back to bios. Try again with a different setup USB bam bios... Ask around try what people are saying bam back to bios... This happened to me on old MSI laptop from 2015 and the new Asus from 2024... I'm beginning to think Fedora is allergic to me.
That's a weird-un. I moved to Fedora specifically because I wanted a no-nonsense distro, and for the last 7 years it's delivered on various desk- and laptops, knock-on-wood.
my dads laptop just wouldnt get normal internet on mint. it always said the connecction was good but then nothing worked. on fedora it all just works. (for my own laptop mint was fine)
hehe, would be real nicebwith a command for completely reset and reinitialising wifi and bluetooth adapter 😅 Fedora ❤️
Tried Fedora KDE just recently, and apparently the latest version broke something and you just get a black screen on some laptops, fresh install and all. Found some random ISO someone posted and that one worked, but kinda crazy it's been over a month that this is known to not work and the official ISO is still borked
The fix is to use a grubby command to disable rhgb at boot. You can find the fix in the fedora discussion website.
I don't know if it's been officially fixed yet, but I'm holding the update for a laptop until it's fixed.
Anecdotally i had to screw around with packages and drivers and updates and what not to get wifi to work on latest Mint with a Broadcom, but nothing egregious or anything.
I've run into the same with the latest Ubuntu using a broadcom wireless. Might be a broad failure.
How does this happen? Do not most major desktop Linux distros more or less run almost the same kernel with the same driver modules? (Except in the case of Debian being several years behind the rest).
TLDR, computer SAYS NO!
Each distro has its own flavor, and sometimes that flavor leads to things not going the way the user or even maintainer of said desktop applications intended.
But at the end of the day, there's only one program in control of all the hardware. They're all getting the kernel from the same place, the distros aren't writing their own kernels except for a few tweaks here and there.
Fedora has a policy of not shipping with non-free/proprietary packages. So depending on what wifi adaptor you have the driver might not be present by default. It's easily fixed by enabling non-free/third party repos after installation, but the annoying gotcha with wifi drivers is you might not have an alternative way to reach the internet to do that.
Mostly but some base distros change the kernel config and other make changes to the code for some reason.
This was me when I tried freebsd.
All good on the wifi front here on Asahi Fedora Linux on Mac mini M1. 😁
What really annoyed me is, that for some goddamn reason fedora renamed or removed the dnf command to add repository's and now each time I want to add a repository I have to write the config file by hand.
my wifi in mint works perfectly. getting the screen to rotate in tablet mode is another story.
Never had an issue with that, are you perhaps using an Nvidia gpu?
Perfect example of Linux never having the same functionality on different systems somehow lol.
Hey Mint could I have audio please?
Mint: No and never ask again.
I still use it though.
So I'm not the only one?!
The only routine sound issues I have on mint is the output settings don't stay the same through a reboot, and there doesn't seem to be a way to permanently disable output for monitor speakers that I don't have (eg HDMI sound).
I had the same problem with mint.
This is why I always have a backup USB of another distro if there is an issue that is truly vexing to solve through normal means.
I just went through the hassle of putting a PXE server on my main server. I put boot repair disc, Debian live, a few installers and I just remembered I need to throw clonezilla on it.
I always end up losing my USBs and I just lost my primary OS USB and had to re-download all my isos so I figured enough is enough.
I've had Fedora on a Thinkpad X300, Thinkpad T420 (what I'm typing on right now), and Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 GA402RK. The last has a Mediatek MT7922, unlike the prior 2 with Intel wireless -- and they all have worked flawlessly.
I had this issue with Debian once..fedora just worked great for me..except the nvidia card! Can't run anything with the GPU..steam does not run with it..OBS crashes..It makes me wonder about LMDE..
This but having a 5G modem.
I went through over a dozen distros before sighing and accepting Kubuntu.
You need kernel support
Distros probably won't change that unless they are doing something goofy with the kernel (screams at Ubuntu)
It's hilarious, and sad, that the same issues I dealt with nearly 20 years ago, are still the same issues.
Let me get this straight, you want to suspend AND resume?
If you were going to resume anyways then why bother suspending in the first place eh?
But don't you DARE say on Lemmy that Linux isn't ready for everyone to use...
But don’t you DARE say on Lemmy that Linux isn’t ready for everyone to use…
If we're talking about "everyone" as in "generic people , who spend either office job time on their computer, and about 1 hour of pleasure time doing non specific hobby stuff" due to adaptation of more wifi drivers etc (even though this is the point of the meme), since everyone's doing all their shit on web interfaces anyway, yeah, it's everyone ready.
My fucking father in law is on a chromebook , my wife has been on ubuntu mate for years. I'm running debian with minimal issues (stupid overheating).
But don't worry, 2025 is the year of the Linux desktop
I think its because ultimately, most linux users either are using linux professionally, and therefore only care about the professional goals they've been assigned to completing, or they tend to be rather insufferable (the type to tell new users to enter sudo -rf --no-preserve-root or pretend that the average user both does not need any powerful features, but is also too lazy and stupid to use powerful features, but should still switch to linux to be berated for some reason).
That combines with the biggest thing: That there isn't the money to go into developing things for linux that there is for mac or windows because the people aren't there, and the people arent there because linux is basically for snobbish elitists, the fringe of society or professionals, AND has all the problems of that catch 22 in the first place, which further concentrates the worst people being the ambassadors for linux, like the real, felt ambassadors, like what someone actually runs into when trying to switch.
I do think Valve is doing a pretty heavy lift right now, and I am very glad they picked KDE, a DE that focuses on open ended pragmatism.
From my personal experience, ubuntu has been way easier (more of "it just works") than linux mint. What's the reason behind people preferring and recommending mint? Is it only the UI?
Gnome is a terrible UI, but no, it's recommended because it's been recommended since the 2000s...it's just momentum.
Marginally better UI means nothing to me if the distro can't handle basic features like audio through HDMI, therefore I'll choose pretty much any distro over mint.