Save icon
Save icon
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What even is a good alternative save icon these days?! This is the only save icon I know.
Edit: lmao I’ve gotten so many replies! I love y’all.
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Set it in stone.
...maybe something more basic like this:
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Back then the version control really was v2 Final Final. The good ol days.
We still do that level of version control. But we used to, too
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Ahh yes, something even more archaic is what's required! How about a clay tablet icon?
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"Why is the save button shaped like a complaint about poor quality copper?"
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Naaah dis be "compile", nerds be removedin real soon
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A floppy disk is fine, just like Photoshop uses terms like dodge and burn, references to obsolete dark room methods, like cutting and “pasting” were literally how some layout projects worked.
Referencing the last physical incarnation of saving a file seems fitting!
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Pretty harsh to the compact disc don't you think?
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I did photography at college a few years before digital technology took off. The old dodge and burn was way more fun. There was no undo button so you had to remember what gets done where and keep refining the print. It took ages. And the chemical smells were amazing!
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How the fuck is a floppy the last physical incarnation of saving a file? HDDs and SSDs are not made out ether.
If you mean save media you commonly interact with, USB thumb drives still exist. Considering computers becoming much more commonplace in their era they probably have been actually used by more people than floppies.
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Up arrow to a cloud, or down arrow to a platter (which, ironically, is also out-of-date)
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Up arrow to a cloud
Vomits
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Up arrow to a cloud
nice try Microsoft
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Up arrow to Lakitu.
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Hard to disk drives are still around but you might want to make it look generically like a generic that could also be an SSD just as easy
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Tell that to anyone needing a large amount of storage that is instantly available; the newest HDDs with 30TB storage hit the central European market this July. Remarkably, the best value offering is a 28TB HDD @ 14,25€ / TB.
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It's just the download button, truly. They already associate that icon with saving files from the web. The down arrow pointing to a rectangle or laptop icon in word or similar app wouldn't be too ambiguous...
Or, truly, the floppy will just become a nebulous, originless heiroglyph meaning "keep this information for later and let me put it somewhere to find it again," and some Gen. Beta child will get curious and learn about ye olde days of magnetic media from Wikipedia.
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☁️ is a (rather terrible) way to indicate cloud saving.
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I've seen an SD card used before.
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sometimes there is a arrow going into a folder
but then again noone knows what the foldwe icon is supposed to depict nowadays either
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That's the icon for the Downloads Folder
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It's time we upgrade the icon to Zip drives, or maybe Sony memory sticks.
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I miss those icons bro.
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This:
Or a Christian cross (“Jesus saves”)
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Yeah it's old and loses relevance, but we can go older and it circles back to recognizable again
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Or just say the vending machine is because it's a store and you are storing the data when you save
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A disc is also been used for some.
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I once saw a usb thumb drive as an icon. Guess it didn't take off.
It might be the best actually since they're still around and, never say never, may not go anywhere. Though a USBA icon will confuse the USBC crowd soon enough.
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parchment & quill 📜🪶
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Realistically the icon could br anything, even the green check emoji: ✅
But if we want to retain the thematic reference to a disk- icon-ify an m.2 2230 or similar and literally just swap em. lol
Image for reference:
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Would need to have some sort of drive icon - maybe? - that is unlikely to ever be forgotten.. with a down arrow embedded inside.
Hmmm.
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That's a download button, an up arrow on the disk is an upload
The save icon is too established to be changed. It can be simplified and become a glyph no one understands the meaning of, but it's cemented
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A frog from Mother 3
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/joke
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A princess in a tower guarded by a dragon, with a knight holding a sword getting ready to swing at the dragon.
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I think one GTK/GNOME icon set had downward arrow pointing to a hard disk. Seemed clear enough to me.
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A piggy bank (it was supposedly considered at one point by a Microsoft team for an office product)
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Lots of open source projects actually have some really good alternatives for it.
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Maybe a hard drive or SSD. At least the hard drive cross-section is somewhat unique.
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Loading circle then checkmark next to filename
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Man, if only it dispensed actual drinks. But yeah, it used to dispense your whole digital life on 1.44MB. Good times.
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Ironic, since Japan is one of the last holdouts requiring the use of floppy drive for use in government processes.
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No, Japan has ended the usage of floppy disks last year, besides a single case relating to vehicle recycling.
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Me when I'm in a refusing modernization challenge and my opponent is Japan:
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When you use old tech like that, sometimes it becomes a security feature.
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Fuck Excel and Microsoft for tying auto save to OneDrive.
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So OneDrive actually saved me a ton of time this year at work. We implemented it at the end of last year, and we had a lot of problems with it at first.
So usually something would go wrong, and it was my job to dig deep and figure out what caused it. But for the first half of this year, I could just say, "I don't know, but I'm pretty sure it's OneDrive," and then I could relax and do something else.
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Jesus Christ, people really do love to make a problem out of anything, as long as it has "Microsoft" on the label, eh?
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Onedrive has been known to just randomly break programs like razer synapse and plenty of other things, and also reinstalling itself for no reason. A friend had a game running at 20fps and it was a known issue that onedrive caused it. I would prefer to have things autosave without using something that is acting indistinguishable from a virus.
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when you are a computer toucher, adding an extra three or four touches every time you want to save is frustrating.
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And people are correct to do so.
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I can understand the Microsoft hate, but I always chuckle at this knee-jerk reaction every time it comes up.
Microsoft is mentioned, karate-chops the air
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I use it, I even pay for it. But Holy fuck it's bad! It makes explorer freeze when right clicking sometimes, moving files is slow, I can't create a new folder and name it at the same time because it interrupts the process, so I create new folder, it takes over, then I have to manually rename it from new folder.
Its picture viewer in the Web app freezes half of the time, actually, on the android app too.
If I didn't get such a good deal for it, I would go somewhere else. It's fucking trash.
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Programs using this icon should restrict their file size to 1.44 MB. Everything else is just false advertising.
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Maybe it's a super disk LS-240. They were up 240 MB.
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I had one of those beast: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip_drive Probably still have it somewhere among the dust.
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Could be a zipdisk! Those where up to what 750megs?
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Probably just ironic humour.
People in Japan still have access to search engines and have brains.
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Theres something about this sentiment that slightly scares my very soul.
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Remember the cinnamon challenge? It was just like a handful of weirdos doing it and in international news, they said it was average Americans because of our underfunded education system.
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have brains
Shoot, that's an understatement. The Japanese people I've read online and met in person tended to be a whole lot more educated than the average Joe. Their education system seems pretty solid.
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I'm 20 btw.
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They are fun to use, they sound neat, and they dont give me data overload of a 1 tb hard drive filling up and wondering where all the space went. Sure, all you can use it for is a few text docs or 10 low res pictures, but its at least physical and a lot harder to wreck than a cd.
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Come back when you have some punch cards. ;)
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Me likey. The floppy drive clicks symphony tho 😬
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I wonder what other artefacts like that we have.
I'm sure some streamers use "Tune in", which refers to radio dialing.
"Dashboard" means a whole lot of things, but originally meant a board on a carriage that prevents mud from being "dashed" up to the passengers by horses (I think).
Uh..."meal" is literally a kind of grain that most people probably don't eat regularly at all, let alone 3x a day.
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"Hanging up" the phone, as well as the icon for phon4 calls being a latter 20th century corded handset shape.
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A <- ox
B <- house
C <- some kind of weapon we don't even have a name anymore
D <- fish
And so on. This set has been running around for half of the world for thousands of years and yet nobody thinks it's a problem.
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The other day I got a press release about disaster preparedness for grade school kids.
It made mention of teaching kids how to use a battery powered radio to get information. And it suddenly struck me that my 8 year old nephew likely has never even SEEN an FM radio, much less would know how to tune one to a specific station.
Shit like that makes me feel reaaaaaaallllly old…
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My elderly father was confused when he bought an old style fm radio and found out it was only a Bluetooth speaker.
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I'm in my 30s and really never actually used an old radio like that. Like there were some laying around that nobody used anymore and I kind of played with them as a kid, but I'm right on the cusp of not knowing how to use one.
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You probably still have an FM radio in your car. You just use it so infrequently that your forget it is there.
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Tell em it's analog wi-fi
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WiFi is of course radio. We just tune in and listen to it differently.
If you limited your bandwidth to 20 or 30 kHz, you could build a “radio” that you manually tune to a WiFi channel frequency and that produces audible noise. You could then build a 1980’s style modem to convert the audio back into a bitstream that you could run your network connection over.
It would be about many times slower than standard Wifi though modern compression could speed that up a bit.
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Propaganda here boys. Japanese aren't having kids, there is no youth.
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lolll
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I saw plenty of couples in Japan with several kids when I visited tourist sites. Of course, there could be a bit of a survivor bias there..
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Probably from one of those kid renting agencies they have over there. They just rent them for the afternoon. It's not like they'd have the space at home anyway.
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Propagandists identified. We coming for you jason bourne
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What you've probably seen are androids developed by Japanese government to convince people that we're actually thriving. Dont be deceived.
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Hang on didn’t the Japanese government only like last year decide to stop using floppies?
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Yeah but kids don't have to file with the gov, their parents do.
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Yeah, it seems like Japan of all places should be where people should still have the most familiarity with them
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The only writing icon that matters is the drumming gif. It doesn’t even make sense anymore but it was so unbelievably perfect for the time.
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What is that supposed to represent???
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Wait for it.... 😏
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“Drumroll please…”
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Did it ever make sense?
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Yes, early 90s hard drives really sounded like a drumroll.
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If you want to make a greybeard feel old, grab one of the old floppies that they still have in a filing cabinet, hold it up and say, "Hey look, someone 3D printed a save icon!"
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Hey I have plenty of floppies still around, and my beard is not grey.
I shave.
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You think it's bad that the save icons have floppy disks?
A while ago, I was wondering why the usual icon for "database" (upright cylinder divided into multiple horizontal slices) looks like the original flowchart symbol for drum memory, further refined to look like a 1960s hard drive, you know, one of those washing machine sized units. But then again, if you have a serious database, chances are it's running on some several layers deep virtualised replica of a 1960s system
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I thought that represented money
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Why not this?
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There was an 8" one before that too.
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I dunno man. A brick falling on some guy's head and making his eyes pop out seems like an excessively violent symbol.
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Get with the 3.5" floppy times man!
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I've seen that on some vintage software.
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Graphical operating systems weren't a thing when the actually floppy discs were dominant. When icons started to be developed, the hard encased discs were the thing people were using.
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My Geos i ran on my C64 begs to differ
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Satire no?
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Yeah. This shit comes around once or twice a year. It’s something to make the younger generations feel special and distanced from their predecessors.
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Has to be. The Japanese still use fax machines
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Yeah. This shit comes around once or twice a year. It’s something to make the younger generations feel special and distanced from their predecessors.
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No. Millenials barely remember floppies. From that point down younger generations have no fucking idea what they are
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It is only mid 2020s and people already asking such questions. Imagine late 2030s or even 2040s.
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Imagine we were dead
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I wonder if you can
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What the fuck is VR? Is that like brain diving?
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I once had what I thought was a friend, but who was definitely a teacher. He joked that he brought a floppy disk to his school and his students asked who had 3d printed a save icon.
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I once had what I thought was a friend
You could start writing a book with that line.
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That's true! However, I don't like "what" there - friend or no, he was a who, not a what. I just couldn't write "who I thought was a friend," though reading it now it seems okay. Ah well; I'm no novelist, so feel free to claim the quote for yourself if you'd like.
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If young people anywhere would see floppies, I'm guessing Japan would be more likely than a lot of other places. They're notoriously slow about getting rid of old tech. I think Sony was still making VCRs until 2016, and faxes were ubiquitous even like 10 years ago.
I saw people in the mid 2000s plug in USB floppy drives so they could work with whatever records they still had on floppy. I have no idea why that was easier for them than just putting the files on a USB drive.
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Two that come to mind: Deutsche Bahn still transfers the seat reservation database to the trains using diskettes. And San Francisco Muni uses 5.25 Floppies for their light rail trains.
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In the UK the image on signs for speed cameras is a old 19th century bellows style camera
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Save to drawer icon
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That looks like a download button :0
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Throw in drawer and forget about forever
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No thank you
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"Look, dad, someone 3D printed a save icon!"
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Maybe it's time to change the save icon into a USB drive.
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Not unless you’re ready to change “hung up” to “tapped end.”
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Because it is hard to put there Jesus. He, same as floppy, died to became a save icon. /s
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I worked with an engineering software that was developed by a Christian team, they put a cross as the Save Icon. Cuz Jesus Saves. It was a good Dad joke so I had to let it slide.
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Dad joke, lil joke, ghost joke 😎 The Holy Trinity of jokes.
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TIL about skeuomorphisms
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Interesting. If skeuomorphism means using "new objects or interfaces that mimic the appearance and functionality of their real-world counterparts to make them more familiar and easier to use", I wonder what the word is for using old and irrelevant objects in UIs that no longer make sense to the users.
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Back in my day we extruded our own polyester film, coated it with our own rust and cut them into discs free hand! All that for 170K of storage!
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That's a fictitious character.
Actual vending machines are never in this state.Higher probabilities are:
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God damnit, I payed four dollars for that can of sugar.
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Why would you need waterproofing for a 4 dollar token?
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When skeuomorphic isn’t anymore.
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I live in Japan and haven't heard of this, but I'm generally allergic to most social media. I'll have to ask my wife when I get home if she's seen it.
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It works, when vending (saving) you make: the machine (the app) vend (save/create) a drink (a file).
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No, I think it's kind of opposite. If the machine is vending you a drink, that would be better as the "open" icon. You choose which drink (file) you want, and the vending machine gives you the one you asked for.
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Not a vending machine. It's clearly the third member of Daft Punk with a snaggletooth.
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Jesus that makes me feel old and I never once in my life used a floppy drive.
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Oh man I distinctly remember being taught how to insert the floppy disk and then select the A: drive to save to the floppy disk on windows 3.1 in my elementary school computer class. My dad's Prince of Persia game was on like ten floppy disks.
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I'm kinda a little jealous of all the people who had computer classes growing up. The schools just expected us to know how to use them and how they work by the time I was getting in
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Same here! And the weird thing is, we did this like 8 times during the school year because that's apparently everything our computer class teacher knew how to do. I always wondered why that was.
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Maybe it needs to be a 5.25" floppy
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Why not clay tablets?
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[I/O] instead?
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What in the flying fuck is wrong with Jerboa for Lemmy? I can't scroll up past this image now...
That happens from time to time. I haven't been able to find out why, or I'd report it. Leaving and reopening the thread fixes it.
Yeah, I've been having trouble with my feeds not refreshing once I've scrolled down to the "bottom" of what has initially loaded. Been driving me bonkers. Shame, because I rather like Jerboa, but I'm probably going to start scouting for alternatives or sacrifice convenience and stick to a desktop browser.
You running latest version? It's working good for me on this image.
Didn't floppy disks actually exist?
Nah
That's what Big Floppy want you to believe.