Microsoft is making every Windows 11 PC an AI PC
Microsoft is making every Windows 11 PC an AI PC
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Making every Windows 11 PC an AI PC
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Microsoft is so incredibly fucked when the AI bubble starts to burst. They've abandoned so many of their other projects and customers to go all-in on it.
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I dunno. I feel like they are like the cable company now. They will jus sit there twiddling their nipples while we are all fucked.
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I need the cable company (or similar) due to the fact that infrastructure is hard to deploy, and we need Internet to participate in society.
Nobody needs Microsoft cause every single one of their products has an alternative that's at least as good.
They survive by courting enterprises, but many of them can also switch away if they want.
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Oh really, how bummed would they be?
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They will be fine. They are second most valuable company in the world. They have money to throw around and their source of income still seem inexhaustible. A few new Linux users won't even make a dent.
Sorry to be so blunt, but it's the truth no matter what we are wishing for.
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I keep parroting this, but in the next couple of years, I think there will be a couple of giants that fall. I work in ServiceNow and they, like many others, have gone all in on AI. Their problem is that they were slower than some, their solution is half baked at best, and it's prohibitively expensive. Nobody is paying 10s of thousands+ extra for the licensing to be able to run agents, and less are paying the extra licensing required for the users to be able to use that agent.
I've now been pulled into copilot studio, and yet again it's another product rushed to market that isn't ready for the big stage. Dog shit documentation and training material, and terrible environment design.
All of these big players have invested so much money in adding AI, nobody wants it, and now they're all hemoragging money.
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Their problem is that they were slower than some, their solution is half baked at best, and it’s prohibitively expensive
Sounds like a lot of company these days.
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Precisely my thoughts. Companies that are all in on this, except for 2 or 3 of the ones that actually are making headway on AI (as opposed to just mirroring Sam Altman's ponzy scheme like Microsoft is doing), will eventually crash and burn.
Look at Apple, they've been left behind in the AI race, but they have other good stuff thatsome of their fans will support (I'm using the word "good" very lightly here), and with their market value and endless cash flow, they are way more likely to still be here 10 years from now.
None of us can see the future, but we can look at the signs. MS will never be a point of reference for AI, as that task belongs to OpenAI and Google exclusively for now (and Meta to some extent).
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Hate to tell you, but we're all incredibly fucked. Least of all Microsoft. They know what they're doing. They most certainly already have a plan for recovery, as they know it's coming just as well as everyone else.
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It won't make a difference.
What other projects they abandoned do you see as so critical that it would break Microsoft?
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I think that Microsoft will continue in some form regardless of what happens with this bubble because they have huge amounts of physical assets and cash on hand.
That said, their market position in any given sector they're in might not be as invincible as it seems. There are corporations that were titans of their industries, including technology, that either don't exist or are ghosts of their former selves all in far less than a lifetime.
Kodak, Xerox, Bell Labs, IBM, and Yahoo all looked like unstoppable juggernauts when I was a kid, and my own kids haven't even heard of some of them.
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Copilot, Github, LinkedIn, ChatGPT are the ones that come to mind. All of them have started to degrade in quality in one way or another, and with the exception of LinkedIn, they all have competitors that could potentially, over the long haul, could dismantle Microsoft. They're also running out of places to extend and extinguish.
It probably won't happen in one or two lifetimes, but enough cracks in a dam accumulate and eventually the whole thing breaks.
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Windows Live Writer, obviously.
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Making every Windows 11 PC an AI PC
Great, so everything runs locally, making it a self-contained “AI PC”. Otherwise, the headline surely would’ve been, “Making every PC collect data to train Microsoft’s models with little benefit in return“. Right?
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What do you mean "little benefit in return"?
Clearly, it streams a buttload of data!
Your ISP bill will surely grow. Hope you're not roaming with your laptop on!
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With 68% of consumers reporting using AI to support their decision making, voice is making this easier. [1]
Does anybody actually believe that 68% of consumers use or even want Copilot? But they included a source for this very generous assertion at the bottom of the page:
[1] Based on Microsoft-commissioned online study of U.S. consumers ages 13 years of age or older conducted by Edelman DXI and Assembly, 1,000 participants, July 2025.
Oh yeah, that's compelling: US consumers, 13 years old and older. An entire thousand of them!
So the only question I have left is which junior high principal Microsoft "compensated" for this survey, and what happened to the 320 summer school attendees who said fuck you, no anyway.
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- 68% of people who answered the survey full of loaded questions they sent to a curated demographic
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Yeah like we all use chatGPT for the most part now but that still does not mean copilot
Fun fact though out of topic: I once searched for 2 girls one cup in copilot, and though it said I cant talk about it, it provided sources and one of them was a link to the video
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I can't judge you for that, I feel like you probably got the very best Copilot has to offer, lol
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When google shoves their ai to the top of search results, its hard not to read it. I've been spoiled by ublock and I am no longer used to ignoring the first few things that come up.
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I've been using Duckduckgo with uBlock for years, so I had no real problems with anything like the hell of Google "sponsored content" until Duckduckgo started putting up their own AI search assistant. Since then I've gone from start.duckduckgo.com to noai.duckduckgo.com because I got tired of turning their search assist off and couldn't reliably block it with uBlock because they kept changing it. (I delete all cookies after every browser session and do not maintain individual app accounts, so their AI settings options were never gonna work for me.)
Because of the way my brain works, I literally don't even want to see what AI says until I've done my own looking. Yet I never failed to turn it off, because I just can't rely on it.
Usually when I'm looking for something I'm in a hurry, so it's less trouble for me to just pick my own sources, preferably older than 2023 if possible, and read a bit myself than to spend time getting blithely lied to, or even just suspect hallucination/omission to the point that I think I need to verify it before I can rely on it.
It's not an exaggeration to say that for me, it is literally faster to skim three or four completely different primary sources than it is to try to verify the assertions in a single search assist paragraph: one is just light reading, the other is point by point comparison of the AI offering against multiple independent sources. So I read.
I've never regretted summarizing a topic myself, but I've definitely gotten some rotten eggs from AI, both in blatant non-truths AND in holes of omission you could drive a truck through. I won't make that mistake again. So for me, AI summaries are well worth staying wary of for now.
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My favorite is when AI summary answers a question, then the links from the search below contradict that answer. It's shit for biomedical research.
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They got that 68% usage number likely by counting everyone accidentally using it after a search swap or similar trick.
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Also just because you have used AI doesn't mean its overly useful. Gone to ChatGPT multiple times to try getting information that Google now is too shit to provide, and ChatGPT ends up providing some stupid response that is clearly wrong.
Occasionally used ChatGPT to find a website to use as an actual source, but now those sources are also AI written bullshit that is clearly wrong. Which is increasingly concerning because while I know some things are wrong, I don't know everything. How many other things that it points to are wrong? Its not too bad if you are able to verify it through non LLM sources, but what if you can't?
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It's the newspaper (news site or app now) problem. You read the news from your venue of choice, taking it all in, sorting out how you feel about it, maybe pick a side on an issue. Then you turn the page and there it is. An article about your career field in A.
Wow, you might think, they got this so wrong. They clearly have no understanding of A. You might even get angry about it.
And then you read the next article.
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they are equating "AI support" with "I want AI copilot integrated into my OS"
and that's a big leap
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What saddens me is that I can't tell which game this is.
It's not Zero for sure, and not the 3rd I think either.
Is it the original 1 or 2?
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Don't know
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fuck off, not my shit you wont
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Meanwhile I'm making every one of my computers Linux.
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How to either make more sheeple or convince more to switch to Linux.
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More unwanted bloat to disable, I guess.
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You seem knowledgeable, can I remove copilot or make sure it doesn't install?
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Tiny11 is how I did it on my dial boot system. Cleanest Windows Install I’ve had since Windows XP. But who knows if an update doesn‘t just install all the crap somehow still? I‘m mainly using Linux now because it just works.
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It's unlikely you can prevent install or remove entire features when Microsoft does not want you to. Depends on how baked-in they make it. More often than not it's a game of whack-a-mole where you find out what toggles are available that disable stuff you do not want.
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i think the whole problem is that they call it AI, which basically describes it as something that it just cant deliver
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It can deliver.. your personal information to the states +third-parties
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The only reason I have a windows box is for gaming, specifically sims (racing and flying)
Ever more reason to test and see if the wheel and flight stick work under Proton.
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Bazzite my dude. Check it out, super easy and setup for easy dual boot so you can give it a shot without clearing windows (if shits partitioned right)
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I want to use this last year of win 10 updates to slowly get onto Bazzite but I have heard horror stories of dualbooting Linux and Windows. Windows tends to overwrite the boot preferences and caps the system.i have only booted into Linux from an external drive in the past, so what is the tried and true dual boot method?
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I'd be amazed if you were the first person testing if those things work. However, I would not be surprised if your specific peripherals do not work as they are supposed to.
If you know someone with a Linux pc it could be easy to test it out.
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I’ll probably throw in a spare HD and dual boot the box to test one of these days. Each successive MS attempt to force crap down our throats just further incentivizes me.
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And for some reason when I buy a laptop I need to also pay for that disgusting spyware. How is this scam still going on?
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MafiaSoft is definitely taking their piece of the action, but laptops from smaller companies like System76 end up costing a fair amount more extra for equivalent hardware than the $50-$100 tax you’re otherwise paying for an OS you’re going to promptly replace. I’d say vote with your wallet, but I realize not everyone can afford to do so.
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Yeah, the lack of mass production causes higher prices. Framework and system76 are doing good things and deserve support. However, the issue imo is a legislative one. You shouldn't be forced to purchase an operating system with your hardware.
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There are alternatives. I bought a Lenovo direct from their site with no OS installed. The saving from not having Windows was enough to afford double the RAM.
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Yeah, the OEM deals in themselves are shady as fuck once you think about it for a couple seconds.
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Only when you buy a windows laptop. You can buy MacOS, Android, chromeOS, linux laptops.
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You can also buy a framework which doesn’t come with anything
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ChromeOS and android are about to be the same thing. I know you can buy laptops with Linux for a while (e.g., RHEL on IBM/Lenovo machine); however, it is definitely not the norm. It's getting much better now, but if you want your choice of hardware it's probably going to ship with windows. MacOS is quickly becoming a walled Garden too. I just want to be refunded for an operating system that I immediately wipe, and everyone else should too.
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From what I'm reading it's just Cortana 2.0
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Hey Copilot, what happened to Cortana?
Copilot: ł ₭łⱠⱠɆĐ ⱧɆⱤ
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Clippy 3.0
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...and 99,99% of middle managers '''working''' in tech be like yeaaaaaaaa daddy just cram that shit down my throat like I'm an abused goose!
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I was pondering about updating that dying w10 partition, just in case. Well, looks like someone else put the final nail in that coffin for me.
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return of the clippy, now named skynet.
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All with your permission and built upon the security of Windows 11.
So I can decline. Good.
You’re always in control of what Copilot Actions can do. Copilot Actions is turned off by default and you’re able to pause, take control or disable it at any time.
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“With Gaming Copilot (Beta)” you can let the AI play the games for you. /s 🤡
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you say that like people don't watch playthroughs on youtube and twitch.
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Oh thank God. I need more AI in my life to be useless
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One more reason to restrict Windows to a VM and run Linux or some other *nix on the host for a baremetal OS if you want or need to run it at all.
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All glory to the QEMU-toad!
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I asked copilot...
How would Microsoft loyalty to US or other government's national security possibly compromise a user's PC if that user gives copilot permission to operate their PC?
How national-security or law-enforcement demands could lead to compromise
- Compelled access to data Microsoft controls — If Microsoft stores or indexes any of your Copilot data in the cloud, Microsoft can be required by lawful process to produce that data to U.S. or other governments with legal jurisdiction.
- Compelled changes to services — Governments can issue orders that require providers to change logging, enable access, or install monitoring in ways that may be secret or accompanied by gag orders.
- Access to telemetry and diagnostics — Diagnostic or telemetry data that Copilot or Windows collects can include evidence of your activity and may be producible under legal request.
- Local features that capture content — Features designed to assist (for example, an automated “Recall” that snapshots screens) create local records of sensitive material that increase exposure risk if accessed by an authorized party.
- Remote-control or agent capabilities — If Copilot is granted elevated permissions (input control, script execution, system configuration), those same capabilities could be exercised under legal compulsion or via back-end access mechanisms.
- Software updates and maintenance — Lawful orders can compel vendors to ship updates or config changes that alter how a product behaves, increasing access to user systems.
Practical ways those legal obligations could manifest on your PC
- Production of synced or cloud-stored Copilot logs, prompts, or screenshots to authorities.
- Microsoft being required to provide live access or historical logs from back-end services that the Copilot agent uses.
- A secret court order or national security letter forcing Microsoft to enable additional logging, monitoring, or remote access for a targeted account or device.
- Disclosure of keys, tokens, or server-side records that tie on-device events to your identity.
Why elevated permissions matter
- Read access to files and memory lets an agent capture documents, credentials, or keys.
- Input/automation control enables actions on your behalf (open files, send messages, change settings).
- Persistence (services/agents) makes it easier for any compelled access to be effective and harder for you to detect or disable.
Risk-reduction steps you can take now
- Limit permissions: Grant only the minimal Copilot privileges needed; avoid giving input control, admin rights, or system-level automation.
- Disable features that capture content: Turn off any screen-snapshot or automatic indexing/Recall-like features if you don’t need them.
- Avoid cloud syncing for sensitive data: Keep sensitive files off services that sync or index them in the cloud.
- Prefer on-device-only models: Use local-only AI modes when available so prompts and context do not leave your machine.
- Use full-disk and file-level encryption with keys you control; avoid storing keys where the vendor could be compelled to retrieve them.
- Harden account security: Use strong, unique passwords and MFA on accounts tied to Copilot or Microsoft services.
- Audit logs and telemetry: Review and reduce diagnostic/telemetry settings; regularly review logs for unexpected activity.
- Segmentation: Use a separate machine or VM for highly sensitive work so a general-purpose Copilot-enabled device doesn’t hold those secrets.
- Legal & contractual protections: For high-risk contexts, seek contractual commitments, data residency options, or legal counsel about how a vendor handles lawful demands.
Quick practical checklist
- Turn off automatic screenshot/Recall features.
- Remove admin permissions from Copilot agent.
- Keep sensitive work on a non-synced, encrypted volume.
- Use local-only AI options where offered.
- Enable and monitor endpoint and network logging for unusual remote access.
Short conclusion Allowing Copilot to operate your PC raises the surface where lawful government demands or compelled actions could expose data or enable access. The likelihood and scope depend on which features you enable (especially cloud sync, screen capture, and elevated permissions) and the legal jurisdiction over the vendor or the data. Minimize permissions, disable content-capture features, and isolate truly sensitive workflows to reduce exposure.
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At this point, regular use of AI should forbid you from voting. It not only means that you can't make decisions on your own, but that your choice can be affected by the people owning the AI service.
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Someone I work with puts every question they have into GPT. They are completely incapable of having an original thought anymore.
GPT is causing real life brain rot for the general public.
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Nice update!
...open O&O shut up and disable, disable, disable, disable. Sweet.
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Disable? I think you mean Remind Me in Three Days! - Clippy
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First, you should be able to interact with it naturally, in text or voice, and have it understand you.
Second, it should be able to see what you see and be able to offer guided support.
And third, it should be able to take action on your behalf.
Fourth and finally, it should be able to destroy your corporeal form and live on as digital-you liking your aunt's dog pictures on Instagram and writing Facebook posts about immigrants taking our jobs, with just as many creative slurs as you would use.
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Take action on my behalf? Absolutely not. Go fuck yourself AI.
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It's obvious that Windows and Microsoft remain as evil as they were in the 00s when they basically singlehandedly held back web development with ie6 for a fucking decade.
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First steps of windows install:
- No to everything for data monitoring
- Google or Opera default browser
- Disable or ignore all copilot icons
- Unstick all user folders from OneDrive
- TranslucentTB
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You forgot the step where you ignore step 2 and use Firefox.
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All your points are a bit questionable:
- Sure, you should click no to almost everything Microsofts asks anywhere, but that hardly helps. Use privacy tools like O&O Shut Up to actually disable spy stuff.
- God no. Vivaldi is nice if you must have Chromium (this is made by the guys who used to build Opera, before it was sold to shady new owners), otherwise Firefox.
- See point 1.
- Just uninstall the damn thing, or some tools of point 1 might do this for you.
- If you must, sure.
Using Enterprise version of Windows is the best option, it already has most of the malicious stuff left out.
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Yah... You dont own your OS on W11, you had better script those changes or they might be reverted on major updates. (They do that for the default browser all the time, and they will likely break that script every year or two)
This is why the [gestures broadly to Lemmy community] evangalizes for Linux so much, everyone is going have to learn a new OS anyway. Aside from what ever Apple is doing, there really are only two choices, a free and open source suite of software that is trusted because everything is public and auditable, or an OS that activly contributes to the creation of the Torment Nexus. We do get that some applications wont work on linux, but my response to that is to look for a new version anyway, your living on borrowed time. Windows 11 is rolling full speed ahead on breaking compatibility with everything Microsoft did not make (and therefore cant update to collect data on you).
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Google or Opera default browser
What about Librewolf,there is a build for it for windows but no auto updating
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Disgusting
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This is a threat?
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With 68% of consumers reporting using AI to support their decision making, voice is making this easier.
sure, maybe as a reference tool. not as fucking something that can perform actions on my computer
Second, it should be able to see what you see and be able to offer guided support. And third, it should be able to take action on your behalf.
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If you're stuck with Win11, this will unfuck quite a bit of it.
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Oh boy I can't wait to try out this new feature on my laptop that is forced to run Windows 11 because it's a Windows on Arm device and Samsung fucked it up so much that they didn't even include a device tree file in the BIOS so I can't even reinstall Windows. As if I didn't already block gemini using my DNS server and Bing and Microsoft Office servers as a whole. Who is this feature for anyway? Just for data collection for Microsoft? So they can leak more shit through copilot from the rest of the world and companies that are forced to use this dumb operating system? So they can auction off the data to 150 trackers and companies to make a bit more money for an operating system you sometimes have to pay money for? Man IT departments sometimes having to put more work in to disable copilot for Microsoft to also just go behind your fucking back and advertise to your users to use copilot on their phones instead. I hate this company with a burning passion in my heart and soul. They are just as evil and souless as Adobe when it comes to just stealing your data and I'm glad that there will be some effort to avoid Microsoft in the future from countries that is somewhat actually just happening. Google and their shit is just as bad though and I also wish them a quiet stay in fucking hell with gemini and whatnot and leaking of personal information already. I'm just done. No one wants AI and I'm tired of having it get shoved into everything.
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Is "agentic" even a real word?
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There's no committee that approves words being added to the English language. Anything that's understood by the group that uses it is a real word. We make up new words and change the definition of old ones all the time; dictionaries are descriptive, not proscriptive.
That doesn't stop the concept of 'agentic AI' being a pile of bullshit being peddled by snake-oil salesmen, of course, but you don't have to be Shakespeare to be permitted to make up new words.
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The question should be more understood as "was the word agentic even in use prior to AI-people slapping it on everything?" It was a genuine question, I have never heard it until it being used in this context.
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Great. Well I'm not pushing the update icon that's been waiting on me for a few days. If Copilot is invasive and can't be turned off, I may finally jump ship.
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I’ve only owned windows machines… well since my first DOS machine in the 90s. I made the switch to Mac after hearing about the embedded Ads in 11.
I’m sure there are many more going to Linux.
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Apple's making it easy these days. Mac Minis are cheap and more than enough computer for 95% of people's tasks, while also using sipping watts. I'm on a M4 Mac Mini and it's using 3.91 watts right now. I've run it at full tilt for extended periods of time and I barely heard the fan. It even runs BG3 somehow.
That said, the power button being on the bottom is dumb but not a real issue. MacOS's assumption that you're going to be using a trackpad is annoying for those of us with nice mice. Actually, MacOS is just annoying in a lot of ways. I get that the bumpers are there to keep people from causing long lines at Genius Bars, but I wish there were just a single button that I could hit that tell the machine I know my way around a *nix and don't need to be babied at every turn.
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What about the weak old Notebooks?
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Pro tip: Buy great laptops on Marketplace, use Rufus to make an ISO which bypasses the RAM and TPM requirements and lets you make a local account, install Win11 and resell for 2x what you paid
I've been rolling in cash with this for the past month
E oh you guys don't like that lmao 😂😂😂 too bad for you, most people still want windows, I'm there to capitalize on it!!
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I honestly don’t mind as long as it’s down with permission. At least Microsoft are trying to do something interesting, computers are so boring nowadays. You could take any of the operating systems and wind them back five years and I probably wouldn’t notice.
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OS's should be boring. Applications are the interesting part of the computer. Anytime you get an OS trying to be "interesting" it's really just invasive/annoying. OS is the bass player in the band.
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I honestly don’t mind as long as it’s down with permission
From Microsoft "fuck you now all your files are on onedrive", sure, they can be trusted. After all, it's not like microsoft "I'm wiping this bootloader for you" have done anything shady before. Microsoft "I'll revert those default apps settings because you clearly wanted edge when you changed everything to firefox/chrome" is THE company that respects user decisions. Microsoft "I'll update and reboot now, fuck you" really knows how to stay in line and not do the opposite of what users want.
Really, what could go wrong in believing that Microsoft "I shit you not, you want to open that link in edge even though you uninstalled it" will respect the end-looser checking or unchecking a checkbox.
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Microsoft is doing more for Linux adoption than anyone else ever has lol
Valve with Steamdeck and Proton development: “Am I a joke to you?”
They are helping, yes, but windows 11 is a driving force like I've never seen.
Steam took the cap off the toothpaste tube.
Microsoft is giving the toothpaste tube a good squeeze!
Honestly, big shoutout to Microsoft for the strong push to get me in Linux's loving embrace.
Double shoutout to them for making it very easy to not even considering to come back.
That and backwards compatibility for Win7 & Win10. Shares of those OSs have gone up and several application developers have announced continued support or are advocating for unlocking/keeping secure those OSs.
Source?
And Mac.
Yes definitely, but mentioning anything good about Apple on Lemmy gets you stitches…
I have said the same as well. Prior to them dropping the fat grumpy that is 11, I was all in on the windows ecosystem for myself. I heavily modified it of course so it didn't have a bunch of the nonsense but overall, the experience was good. But then they started warping 10, and then they came out with 11 which was massive garbage at release and now is worse garbage years down the road. And with that AI outlook, I'm full on bailing from everything.
MS has to justify thier cost of spending so much money on AI datacenters, they need everyone to buy it to offset the unprofitable cost of AI usage. thats why they are so desperate and suddenly trying to force W11 down peoples throat.
I've got two friends that are right in the edge of trying. One has a spare thin client that he wants to PoC with and was asking for distros and how to install. The other was thinking of jumping in the deep end with Arch, and I've warned him, but the wiki is solid, he's not dumb, and Arch install is better than it ever has been.
PoC? Punch only Clowns?
And literally 99% of their userbase will stay on Windows.