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  • I deleted my 11yr high karma account on 1st July. I had another before that which was a couple of years or so old.

    I did it in protest but as an interesting side effect, my mental health has improved slightly. Guess actively engaging with toxicity does have an effect.

  • That's the joke, but it's really not true.

    You can write unintelligable code in most languages.

    Perl's syntax is fine, and you can write beautiful code with it - but it will also let you write fugly code that works.

    I think those who say this seriously just don't understand Perl, or even programming generally. (Whilst I like Perl, I'm also proficient in C, Java, JS, Python, PHP, Bash and probably a few more, so I'm not just promoting the only thing I know.)

  • Ah yes, the "Right to be forgotten"

    You are correct, of course. However, they are well within their rights to not delete your data. Look up "Legitimate interest" - it's a huge GDPR loophole and widely abused. (Certainly in charity fundraising in which I used to work)

    The LI can be for their own business purposes, including profiling, machine learning and of course, advertising.

    It can also, and usually is, need to keep data in case they receive a legal order to provide it. In the event of Reddit being used for terrorism purposes (which I'm sure it has, along with every other messaging platform), they will be required to produce that information. Which they can't if it's gone.

    We wave the GDPR around like it solves all our problems. And whilst it does add a huge amount of public protection and it's impressive it made it into law given those objecting to it, it does not give you the right to your own data above all else.

  • Whilst I totally understand your comments and even appreciate them, I still believe I am right.

    About four years ago I used NukeReddit - a similar script that loads your comment history, edits each posts, replaces the text with nonsense and saves it. Then deletes the post. I did that because someone got close to identifying me IRL and I didn't want them to, and wanted to tidy up my own data leakage.

    After that, I continued using Reddit until the recent nonsense when I decided to leave to good. First, I used Power Delete, repeating it over several days to delete thousands of comments and hundreds of posts. About a week after that, I submitted a GDPR data request. Another week, I deleted my account. About a week after /that/, I received the GDPR response containing several CSV files containing my data. That included posts and comments I'd made from 11 years ago when I had created that account.

    That data had survived two quite thorough scrubs and deletions, and whilst I no longer have access to that account, I believe my data and my account are still there - just unavailable to me.

    I do know a little about data and databases, and in many mature projects, deleting posts simply sets an is_deleted column with the date it's deleted. Editing a message simply creates a copy of that message, sets the original as is_deleted with a date, and sets the copy with the edited text. That's standard and honestly, I don't know why Reddit would not do that.

    Also consider that Reddit may be under a legal obligation NOT to delete data. If there is a criminal investigation at a later date, they will need to be able to provide that information. "Sorry Mr Government, we deleted Bin Laden's posts where he incited terrorism to dozens of other suspects" is not going to be received well.

    The bottom line is that only Reddit architects will know for certain, but I'd put real money on betting that I'm right.#

  • Not arguing with the other possible reasons given, but it can be really hard to get started with SO as anything other than a reader. Gaining enough points to comment, answer, or even answer a comment feels really hard now that so many questions are already answered well.

  • You didn't wipe your comments, you only created a new version. And if you deleted them, it's only a soft delete. Reddit still holds your data. I proved this by doing a gdpr request and received stuff I'd wiped and deleted four years before.

  • Agree on point of detail, but the "drama" is the reason for the fuss. Redhat's communication, especially to the community that helped build and support it, has always been patchy, but over the past few years it's been apalling. As others have pointed out, they've insulted a lot of us, specifically for not contributing upstream - so it's not unexpected for them to be called on it when someone does.

    I think the EL sphere as a whole (including RHEL and all up and downstreams) is getting drastically weakened directly because of Redhat's poor decision making, and that's a shame for all of us.

  • Not quite but it's not black and white. Rocky is owned by Rocky Enterprise Software Foundation, but that is owned by Greg Kurtzner because a legal entity needs to be owned by /someone/ in law.

    I personally trust him because I know a little of his story and his involvement with Centos before Rocky (ie, he cofounded it), but I appreciate that might not be enough for everyone. I've followed the project closely since its inception and am very happy with its progress and outlook so far, solely from a non-commercial aspect.

    And Alma is NOT better. That's like saying Cheese is better than Apples, or Titanium's better than Lead. They're different distros with quite different approaches. It's fantastic both of them entered this market and both of them are doing well, choice is the absolute best thing about Foss.

    (More detail about Rocky's legal makeup here, if you're interested) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Linux - I also have no commercial interest in it other than a user)

  • Yes, I've populated most of my local area, and every time I go for a walk or bike ride, I add as much detail that I can. I also find it very enjoyable and it's pretty cool to see features I added show up in all kinds of mapping services that use its data

    Osm now has the clearest and most detailed maps for walking that I know, and I use them in preference to the UK's ordnance survey maps, which don't scale so well on electronic devices.

  • Nice summary. One minor, but important, addition to your post:

     
            much worse for Fedora, they have been culturally enslaved by Red Hat, 
    
      

    Not just culturally - Redhat legally own Fedora too. Legally owning Centos was how Redhat managed to kill Centos Linux. One of the key things Greg wdid when creating Rocky two years ago was set the legal status so that Rocky could never be taken over in the way Centos was.

  • I know what you mean about "it feels a bit ruined" - I had to post something for work there today (a technical question that I felt was best suited there), the first time I've been on for two weeks. It kinda felt like I was visiting a porn site - that same shifty feeling that I hope nobody notices it was me.

    It is a real shame, but when you sit back and think about it - it's just a website. It's not really that important compared to other things, so I'm generally finding better things to do, like you are. Doing that, for whatever reason, is a good thing.

  • Linux @lemmy.ml

    Jeff Geerling stops development for Redhat