Chicago fighting ICE
Chicago fighting ICE
kolektiva.social
Antifa International (@antifaintl@kolektiva.social)
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/50409858
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The guy the arrested was fat too, but clearly he actually fucking worked in his life.
He was able to resist those pieces of shit until they gave up.
No one attacked them and just heckled the shit out of them. Couldn't subdue one man between the two of them, then ran away when the realized the world still thinks they are pieces of shit.
They looked like some sort of local chapter militiamen dipshits. Fucking meal team 6, wannabe warriors that probably even get turned down by their own hands.
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Arrested? No. They assaulted him and ran away.
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Good point.
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Idk if anyone will find this more useful than I, but the Nissan's VIN is 5N1BT3BB1SC775713
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Why did no one take any of the infinite opportunities to take the green dude’s mask off from behind? He’s definitely bolting if that happens, real ICE or not. And with rulings from judges against wearing them, I’d think you have decent legal standing even in the slim chance something comes of it.
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My thoughts exactly. You want them to leave quickly? Rip off their mask and run away. When their faces start circulating and later retribution can be delivered, then you'll see progress.
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They were walking the line of getting shot. I'm strong enough to have grabbed them by the belt and neck collar and tossed them to the side, but reaching for the belt would look like reaching for the gun.
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And nobody keyed that ICE rental car?
Hmmm...
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Don't forget to bring your lentils
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or slashed thier tires.
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That was amazing! I cheered out loud when I saw them give up!!!!
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They're not just fascists, they are also cowards.
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That was ice?
I saw two criminals assaulting a random innocent person and trying to kidnap him. Assault service of course provided by the "I wanna have the Nobel Peace Prize" president
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Holy shit, those were the sketchiest-looking, least-trained, pudgiest, definitely-not-trained, mother-fuckiest, federal agents I've ever seen! Definitely not two racist, assholes from bumfucktucky recruited in the last 6 weeks to drive around in a rental car harassing brown people!
Jesus christ
Fuck ICE
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Give 'em a break. They just got out of prison a few months ago.
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I highly doubt that was ICE, honestly.
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Mall cops have better handcuffing skills than these chucklefucks. Do they literally have zero training?
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BYOTM
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Suggestion. If you see something like this happening, there's enough people in ICE's face and no one's in the car, cut the valve stems. They're made of fairly soft rubber. If they do drag their victim in, they won't get far. Hell, if you see an ICE car parked somewhere, prop a nail under the tire so it punches as they leave.
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Not an American but thinking to go back to my childhood and these are the fuckers you would 100% know live in your neighborhood and you would slash their tires. It's illegal and it's petty but it felt so good.doing it. Hell even just key their car is worthwhile.
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ACAB is ACAB the world around, but these fuckers aren't even locals. It's not uncommon for authoritarians to use non locals to enforce their bullshit because locals are more likely to side with their neighbors at a certain point.
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The cars are likely rentals, so at the end of the day you’re just damaging someone else’s stuff.
Which will hopefully incentivize them to not rent to ICE
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Really wish they would've censored the good Samaritans' faces.
Amazing to see this but I would not want to be caught on video interfering.
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Shocked that nobody stole the car, or fucking kicked one of those Nazis in the face.
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Or just take the keys
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Toss into the nearest sewer opening
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They're Americans, but they're learning.
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kinda surprised their hamstrings didn't get cut with a pocket knife or their ankles hacked at with a hatchet
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Americans are too cowardly to throw a punch to save their country.
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Its just the least effective thing you could do. You would be better off unmasking or slashing their tires. Both will impact them significantly more and come with way smaller charges if you end up in front of a judge.
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why is it always a lemmy.ca user begging Americans to fight?
don't you have your own country to fuck up?
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Get cancer, Nazis.
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Why is someone with clearly zero training or physical ability allowed to wear the word "POLICE" like that?
Jeeeesus, spent all that time going at it like a couple walruses on a beach and didn't even get the guy.
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I can't believe I just watched that many people for that long do absolutely fuck all.
In my country, within seconds, people would be running in from off-screen and absolutely wailing on those two. And they'd relish doing it.
A nation of sheep gripped by fear, controlled by whoever wants it.
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The problem is the people standing around don't want to become victims themselves. I was wishing they'd do more through the whole video but, if they did, they're running the risk of a 20+ year prison sentence.
That said, I think there is plenty of plausible deniability here. There is nothing to say these two are actually officers. Only one of them is in "uniform" and that uniform is something anyone could buy.
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That's what I was thinking - much as I wanted them to do more, it looked like the bystanders were being careful to do everything they could that wouldn't invite immediate escalation - making clear they were filming, moving dropped material away when they got a chance, and generally slowing down the whole process considerably.
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Neither of which have a firearm. One dude doesn't have a vest and neither have helmets, and they're driving a Nissan Rogue. No fucking way that was ICE.
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We get shot by our police here A LOT. It's really hard.
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The first tool an American cop uses is their gun. The first tool.
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You do not understand that this is not your country, clearly.
There are cameras everywhere. Anyone not prepared to mask themselves could easily be arrested later by police.
In top of this, Trump wants violence. When things are solved like this, without violence, Trump gets more frustrated and angry... And he resorts to using footage from years ago to try to anger his base, which is already very disillusioned with him over a number of things (Epstein files, Tarrifs, Qatar military base.)
What happened here was smart. What you are suggesting is destructive to our country.
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Non-violence has worked so well for the past two decades, congratulations.
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If it's any consolation, as a US-ian watching this, my mind was racing through all the things I wanted to do. The kidnappers are all-in focusing on the victim, with stress probably fogging up their brains. Anyone with an iota of mental discipline and a moment to strategize would have an advantage over them.
I kept thinking how easy it would probably be to remove their masks and sunglasses. Their hands are full, what are they gonna do? They could let go of the victim (win!) to re-cover their faces, or they could let their faces be visible (smaller win) and whatever comes of that, comes of that.
Then I remembered that I've got pepper spray, and this video may be the kick I need to actually start carrying it full-time.
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At second 46/47 you can see how one of the agents grabbed to his weapon (not pulling it) without pretty much any hesitation.
So it foors like if they werent in such a public space they would have definetly used it (and if its only for scaring) -
If Americans haven't stood up for themselves by now, they never will. It's pretty GG.
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Came here to say this. Good they do something I guess, but Jesus fuck doods they do the bare minimum that passes as 'something'.
Nation of sheep is right.
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They have hired the fucking bottom basement, ignorant, fascist wannabe, dumb asses.
So basically Trump supporters.
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I highly doubt these men were paid by the government. No M16 or M4, no helmet and vest for home boy, foreign vehicle. These were right wing psychopath kidnappers.
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Real ICE is really that much of a clown show now.
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If they really had the law why would they have given up?
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They were afraid that real cops would show up and figure out that they're not really ICE. There's no fucking way ICE operates a Nissan Rogue.
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Ice is literally operating out of these vehicles. You are in denial.
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They are renting vehicles to blen in
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They do though
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🔥🔥🔥
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Fucking Proud Boys cos playing as ICE. These fuckers should be kidnapped instead.
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I'd like to see how putting a bullet in masked kidnappers who are not in police uniform and refuse to show badge numbers holds up or not in court. Like how is anyone going to know the difference? It's just self defense. Genuinely curious - is there precedent for that?
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Only a matter of time before we find out.
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court
Lol
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Is it legal to murder kidnappers in the USA as a bystander?
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Well, the Derossett case in 2019 confirmed that you can shoot plainclothes police who don't identify themselves if they're kidnapping someone from your home. Presumably that would extend to yourself too. Outside your property, I dunno. But as a bystander, there is tons of legal precedent that you can kill someone in the act of committing an armed robbery or some other forcible felony even if it's not directed at you, and that killing is not a crime. Murder, rape, and kidnapping also fall into this forcible felony category.
My best guess is a lower court would correctly conclude with a not guilty verdict, and it would keep getting appealed with a fast track to reaching the Supreme Court because ICE are a gang of losers. And then it depends on the can of worms that the Supreme Court is willing to open to appease their daddy.
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There's no way that was ICE. NO US organization has ever bought a foreign vehicle for official use.
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oh man at 0:50 I wanted nothing more than to see somebody walk up behind that nazi removed with steel toes and just fucking kick him in the nuts as hard as they could
what I don't understand is how we haven't seen terrorists like this get sucker punched from behind or something
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Simple enough, people are scared, and rightfully so. These fucks will not respond to being attacked by retreating or attacking back, they'll start shooting to kill, both the attacker, and anyone they think might be even tangentially related.
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Everyone in the video did really well - hinder them but don't touch them, it's assault to touch them, but if they slam into your body because they weren't paying attention, well that's on them. If you form a moving wall around them, they feel threatened. Honk and shout and video and they feel seen. This is how we fight back.
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Why are you letting this happen in your country?
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LOL because ICE has been operating that way since at least 30 years, this didn't start overnight. If you didn't want a quasi-military force with no-warrant arrest powers, the time to complain was in the '90s.
Or you can blame Russia. That always works.
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It's pretty normal for anyone to defend their home from invaders.
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just not enough good people with a gun around, I guess
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Was that guy trying to play mall cop kidnapper in Johnston and Murphy loafers?
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God I hope this isn't AI. Fuck these fascist cowards.
Unmarked vehicle. Masked. Only 2 of them, one not in uniform. Yeah, this isn't a lawful arrest. This is a kidnapping.
You are on the wrong side of history, and nobody will remember you. You will be forgotten as the pigs you are.
Uniform? I see nothing I can't buy on Amazon. Won't say what I'm prepared to do, but I'm not watching a kidnapping go down.
Yeah, I don't even think that was the real ICE. ICE carries M16s or M4s, not sure, but between the two of them you don't see a single weapon? This is absolutely an unlawful kidnapping. And we're they driving a Nissan? No fucking way ice rolls out with only two guys in a Nissan.
Guy in green has a gun, but they're definitely just kidnappers in cosplay
They had a black Subaru Crosstrek in the video of when the crashed into 2 brothers in a truck, then arrested them.
They’re using rental cars not to try and blend in. Be aware of this, but still do what you can to stop kidnappings.
The only time US has been in right side of history is when they were forced into it.
Well, they're on the Reich side now. 🤌🏼
I'd rather these scumfucks were never forgotten, or forgiven. Their identities should be immortalized