Stephen Colbert Revives Right-Wing Alter Ego to Rip Donald Trump on Free Speech
Comedian’s MAGA character offers TV hosts tips to please Trump.
I would love for Colbert Report to come back.
Same!
Tangentially, I had a hilarious debate with someone several months ago who was convinced the Colbert Report version of Steven Colbert was just who he actually was, and somehow had a significant amount of difficulty understanding that it was a bit… despite how comically fucking obviously it’s a bit. Low key curious if I accidentally came across the guy who invited Colbert to W’s press correspondents gala all those years ago (and may I just say holy fuck his speech at that event was just… 👨🍳 💋 )
For what it’s worth, Bush knew it was a roast. Roasting the president is a traditional part of the press correspondents’ dinner (or was, before paper-thin-orange-skin became president). Earlier in that very same dinner, Bush did a bit roasting himself with a Bush impersonator.
Every so often, I used to go back and re-watch the entire thing. It was just so good.
I had to laugh when the "liberal media" was later spinning it the next day (and the hard right outlets like Faux and hate radio picked this up and used this spin - "see, even the liberal media says it was bad!") as not that funny, it got hardly any laughs in the room, etc.
Yeah, NO SHIT many people in the room weren't erupting in loud guffaws. He was making fun of YOU motherfuckers, too. Right to your smug little faces.
Just like Orange Jesus didn't erupt into laughter when years later, Seth tore him a new one right to his face, as did Obama. Orange Jesus sat there, seething. Orange Jesus gave it 0 stars, boo, it was terrible, no more discussion. LOL.
He talked about why he left at one point and this was part of it. Because even if he didn't mean what he said there were still people that believed him.
Shhhh, nobody correct him, it’s way funnier that way.
“You mean Trump cancelled a conservative host?”
I would rather them do something substantive with their power than to continue to normalize right wing views.
It's funny I remember thinking something similar in Germany a long time ago, about another politician: all those humorists, cartoonists etc. mocking him are basically just helping this conservative asshole win. Whether I was even right about that is one thing, but there's a huge difference:
He wasn't threatening to crack down on every person against him or on every minority he chose, and he couldn't have either because the system was working (at least way better than in the USA).
Also they were mostly joking about his bad English and love for fatty traditional foods. What Steven Colbert does is a bit different.
No, satire and such have an important place even in working democracies, but especially in a still young dictatorship.
Also: what really is Steven Colbert's power? Can't he effect much more doing exactly what he's doing?
There are many ways to fight back. Don't point your finger and say "you're doing it wrong". We're on the same side after all.
You really didn't know the purpose of that show?
The Daily Show was also killing it last night. Jon’s Trump themed set was amazing.
My god it was so gaudy it was brilliant
Absolutely devastating
If Trump thinks this is genuine, then he really isn’t very bright.
Lots of conservatives thought the Colbert Report was genuine. My dad was one of them.
Can confirm, used to know people who watched it because they didn't realize it was satire.
Also not being able to detect satire is supposedly telling.
I think the most over the top thing Colbert did on that show was the episode on the funeral industry.
Oh man, I remember going out to lunch at a company I was starting with, with two guys and they were debating if he was serious or not. They absolutely, genuinely weren't sure, either one.
Otherwise seemingly bright guys.
HE'S BACK BABY!
Can he do that? I thought another network had rights to the character, they even did a whole bit where they both show up on stage to differentiate them.
What are they gonna do, fire him?
Lawsuit?
Watch this. You're pre-fired. And when I'm promoted, you'll be full fired.
Rofl
CBS and Comedy Central are both Paramount.
They allowed South Park to air. Their only condition was that they draw eyes on Thump's tiny penis (to make it a character)
Yes!! I was hoping for this. He needs to become very slowly progressive. This will change some people’s beliefs since they don’t understand sarcasm.
Does “becoming slowly progressive” include being a shill for Israel? Or is that something he’s committed to at all times?
Is it even really a colbert report revival if he didn't talk about BEARS?
In case you didnt catch it on tv it's on youtube:
Wow, did he "rip" him? Sounds brutal. Oh wait, the guy doesn't care, and neither do his followers.
They care or there wouldn't be any cancelations
When Gina Carano got fired for saying that "the left" had created an atmosphere, where it was OK to abuse those "the left" didnt agree with, she was fired because she likened this to how the nazis did the same to create an atmosphere where hating Jewish people was OK. "The right" then came out moaning about free speech, and "the left" said that disney was a private company and could fire whoever they wanted.
Now its... three/four? Years later, and Kimmel has been fired for saying that Kirks shooter was right wing and that "the right" were doing anything they can to make it appear otherwise. Disney once again, has taken action by not quite firing Kimmel, but its effectively what it is. Now "the left" is banging on about free speech, and "the right" is jerking off to the sound of "consequences" and "Disney is a private company who can fire anyone they want.
Its kinda funny how points of view are so easily moved around depending on the politics are play, huh?
This is kinda the world you all created for yourselves. Anyone not balls deep in the dumb culture wars told you this "cancel culture" would have swings and roundabouts. Fucking with peoples lives and careers because they made some edgy joke on twitter a decade earlier. Celebrating cunts like Skai Jackson who was doxxing fucking children online, and sending millions of her followers after those children because they said something mildly racist. Its all a big fucking nightmare now, and its never going to stop. The right, the left, whoever is on top will be coming for whoever, for whatever, whenever. None you could just leave it at dont watch the people you dont like. You had to have them fired or ruin their lives. Well, this is what that looks like now. Congrats, you played yourselves.
Disney was coerced by the federal government via FCC commissioner threats and literally by Donald Trump himself, President the United States.
If you don’t understand what the difference is, you really need to shut the fuck up until you can graduate high school.
There is no legal way for the FCC to force disney to do anything. This was one man, Carr, talking out of is arse, trying to look hard for his orange daddy. Why anyone would take what he said seriously, I dont know. If Carr had the power to do anything, he would have done it through legal channels. But he didnt. He just said some shit, and everyone pointed to that being the "real reason" because it couldnt possibly just be that disney, a company with a history of throwing talent under the bus, could just want to walk away from him.
Yeah, without taking into context history you seem to miss several important points. It was never a both sides issue and this was seen in the red scare otherwise known as McCarthyism. You see the government literally purged all the left wing people during this time.
This destroyed the left, it never recovered. The left has never even done something close to this. The right's invention of "cancel culture" propaganda was a response to being held accountable for abusing women during the me too movement.
The devil is in the details which you gloss right over to come to a counterproductive and laughable conclusion.
See, this is all fucking lies. Lies that you were fed, because it fit some ideal of the righteous avenger that you see yourself as. The fact is, loads of people abused me too. Thats why no one cares about it anymore. Thats why people have gone back to NOT pointing at the people who abuse them. Cancel culture is alive and well, what I will say is that it was never a left wing thing. Nothing is ever just left or right thing. Its a culture war thing. Havent you noticed that you are all calling each other "fascists" and "nazis"? Its all the same thing, just coming from two different angles.
The fact is, you are all playing this dumb fucking game. Both sides seeing themselves as the good guys, while we kinda hang around not talking about the Epstein files... funny that, huh? Right wing, left wing, repukes and democrazies, all the same thing. How anyone can look at what the dems did to AOC in December, and have the balls to call themselves the good guys is a joke. Its all fucked. And anyone who thinks theyre team is the "good" team, is a coolaid drinking muppet.
Also, there is no "left" in America, there is only right and further right. Thats it. You call yourselves left, and the rest of the world throws up in its fucking mouth.
SO much false equivalence here, but the most important distinction is that it was at the behest of the US government that Kimmel was silenced. No matter who it was or what was said, this is not only not okay, it's deeply illegal. Nothing of the sort was remotely the case with Gina Carano.
And you can prove that? Because if you can, then its pretty easy to sue and win as that would be extremely illegal. So, the evidence of that is... Oh wait, there isnt any. Its just that Carr said stuff, and people think that means something. But it doesnt. As there would be no way to enforce it legally. Thats why there is no official "order".
Its not false equivlence, its the same fucking thing. You just dont like it because its outing you for what you are, a culture war weirdo who gets off on this constant and needless drama.
And not for nothing, but Gina Carano was getting rape and death threats because she wouldnt change put her pronouns on her bio. That was what prompted her to make the comparison to the atmosphere that nazis created around Jewish people. When the same thing happened to Laura Bailey because she was the voice of Abby in the Last of us part 2, there was public outrage. But for some reason, its totally fine that Gina got rape and death threats because she was a moron that spouted dumb maga nonsense... Yeah, no. No one should be getting rape and death threats, just like no one should be getting murdered, and no one and I mean fucking no one, should be allowed to keep a platform that they use to corrupt or mislead the public. The only issue I have with Kimmel being taken off the air, is that hes not even close to be the only one who does it. Fox News, which I know you will agree with me on, has been doing that shit for years. They need to be held to account as well. More in fact.
At the end of the day, its all a fucking circus. A soap opera played out in easily digestible clickbait headlines that no one ever reads beyond. We believe screen shots from twitter uploaded on to imgr and reposted on reddit before being reposted on twitter again, as long as they align with our narrative. But when someone posts a link to a source discounting that random twitter post, all of sudden everyone is hyper critical of believing random news articles and you need "better" sources, like any source would actually change anyones mind once its made up.
The whole thing is a fucking shit show, and the fact that you are all saying the same things, word for word in some cases, is fucking hilarious to me. You can either see this information for what it is, and revaluate your relationship to social media and have a serious look at what its doing to you, or you can just call me a cunt, hit that downward facing arrow and be on you merry way, confident in the knowledge that you put a "fascist" in his place... The choice is yours, chief. If nothing else, I hope you have a great weekend. Even if you do end up calling me a cunt lol. Take care.
A corporation caving to public pressure/sentiment is very different than caving to the president of the United States after he threatens to use the levers of government power to destroy their business. To me these things are night and day.
Guys I think this is literally Gina Carano’s Lemmy account, she’s been talking about this shit in like three threads
Kimmel did not say he's rightwing. He said the right is doing everything they can to make it appear he isn't one of them. As usual, your collective persecution fetish fills in the blanks.
isn't there a difference between a president actively pursuing a firing of someone based on their free speech, vs a company deciding to do it for any reason other literal government coercion? if disney decides someone is fired because they think the court of public opinion is going to result in a negative financial impact, that's pretty different from the president of the country calling for his firing even if there's a percentage of the population who called for their firing.
pretty sick of the false equivalencies between the government applying influence, and private corporations deciding actions based on what they deem profitable. neither are based on morals, but the government is supposed to be the one curtailing this shit, not fanning the flames.
that said, i do think i agree with you partly, if i read this correctly, in that people should absolutely be ready to be punched in the face if they hold a contentious opinion. a lot of shitheads would be shutting the fuck up a lot more if nazis got punched more often instead of being praised. if being not-fascist becomes a contentious opinion, you can be sure as shit i'll be ready to be punched in the face for standing up against racist fuckhead nazis
What influence? Carr is toothless, thats why he made a public statement. To "look" hard. But he had nothing to use against Disney, because as you are all pointing out, it would be illegal as fuck. But hey, Kimmel can sue if this is the case. All he has to do is prove it.
But the point isnt that the stars perfectly align, the point is that the talking points are the same. You are saying the very same things, and dismissing whatever you dont agree with. Gina, Rosanna, Johnny, Jimmy, it doesnt matter. The points of view are the same, they just come from different angles based on what your politics is. Thats the joke, IMO.
Bro, you get your bread ration from Russia for writing all this bullshit, fuck off
Not the same animal. Carano is part of a franchise marketed to all age ranges but is very popular with children. Star Wars is a huge cash cow for Disney, and despite Disney being it’s own kind of tyrant, it does give a fuck about its image to families of all kinds. Everyone with half a brain knows this.
Kimmel is late night TV for adults in which political commentary is par for the course. That’s it. No more no less.
One got fired because a company didn’t like what an employee said while very much a public figure for that organization, the other was just doing what they’re supposed to do and the government got them fired. One is a clear violation of the First Amendment, the other is collecting an unemployment check.