Israel formally states it did not kill Charlie Kirk
In a video statement, Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu called the growing MAGA conspiracy a ‘monstrous big lie.’
In a video statement, Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu called the growing MAGA conspiracy a ‘monstrous big lie.’
What an odd thing to formally state.
I feel like I would suspect them less if they hadn't said anything. Most of Israel's formal statements regarding allegations of Israeli violence are lies, so what would make this statement different?
Even more importantly… maga is never gonna let that bone go.
This has "OJ Simpson book" energy
Well, he was white and almost as much of a Nazi as them.
They do so many (illegal) international assassinations, it's good to clarify
See also Mossad
Probably some quirk of Trump's personality being catered to.
I didn't suspect they had any involvement before, but now I have some doubts... 🤔
Charles himself said about 6 months ago that he was worried Israel would try to harm him because about a year ago he stopped supporting them over the genocide, so this isn't out of absolutely nowhere. My guess is that it was just a dogwhistle.
The fact that Israel is actually saying it, however? Like... Aight. If they said nothing I would have continued to disregard it, but Israel's statements are around the same credibility level as Russia's, so I kind of have to give credence to the possibility that the exact opposite of what they say is true...
I think this means we're at the stage where he's decided it makes more sense to list off all the crimes he's not doing.
List complete.
Shoplifting. Feeding the homeless. Sleeping in his car.
The ones cool people do.
He does the first and last out of spite rather than necessity and satisfies the middle by adding "to dogs" at the end.
Oh come on! He did nit eat my nut either!
Wait… WHERE IS MY NUT????
Damn you Bibi!
Eww, clean after yourself when you nut
hysterical pregnancy? is that even a crime? what kind of list is this
I had zero reasons to suspect Israel in this, but now there is one
I hope that people aren't really taking this too seriously as a reason to suspect Israel. There was a LOT of chatter saying that they killed him, by the Nazis of course. A dominant narrative on /pol/ is basically that Kirk got in bed with the Jews and now he's paid the price for trusting them.
From the standpoint of your average left-leaning person, Israel making a statement like this seems completely out of the blue and makes them look really guilty. But there's a whole demographic of people who really think that they did it. I don't think it's too unreasonable that they would make a statement about it. And let me be clear. I absolutely hate Israel with all my heart. But there are plenty of events in this world that they are not responsible for.
More importantly, this seems dangerously close to reasoning like: "You wouldn't defend yourself against these accusations unless they were actually true!" Which is definitely not a good bar to set.
There's a separate conspiracy mostly on Instagram that asserts he was wearing a titanium breastplate and the shooting was meant to be staged like Trump's, but the bullet accidentally ricocheted off the breastplate.
I doubt it tbh but who knows. We have extremely unreliable evidence, eg the text messages that seem manufacturered.
People on X were theorizing
Makes sense, they're reaching the point where it's more efficient to list the people they haven't killed.
For the record, I can believe that Israel has managed to bomb everything in Gaza except Hamas.
That's true they don't kill nazis; Israeli snipers only shoot babies in the skulls and eyes:
It’s crazy how that’s the least evil way the IDF murders children, they also target their genitals
Fingers crossed for the Streisand effect.
Confirmed: When I read this headline I thought "uhhh kinda weird; who asked?"
Qanon. Of course Qanon asked.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. The murder of Charlie Kirk continues to benefit some of the most powerful individuals and banks with ties to Epstein.
The Senate called for this investigation hours before he was killed
So if anybody was paying attention to that right now instead of the threats of civil war, that would mean that people would be looking at the relationship between Epstein and individuals like Netenyahu, Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, and Peter Thiel, as well as the banks that helped fund them like JP Morgan, BNY, Bank of America and Deutsche Bank.
Or at least, people would be noticing the Republicans have voted 3 separate times to block this investigation starting on the day Kirk was killed.
The "I didn't kill Charlie Kirk" shirt has a lot of people asking questions which are answered by the shirt.
What an oddly specific denial...
Incidentally, why don't we all play with the same truthiness ruleset?
Benjamin Netanyahu ordered the hit on Charlie Kirk.
We know with certainty that Donald Trump did not order the hit, as he'd be bragging about it.
Do we really, though? I don't trust El Taco to remember what he's wearing at the moment, let alone whether or not he ordered a hit.
Somehow this makes me suspicious when previously I had no thoughts on it lmao
I guess he draws the line at innocent, hungry children. What a saint
Israel killed Charlie Kirk.
This is going to make the conspiracy nuts latch on even harder. You just Streisanded yourself, dumbass.
ps: The American right wing hates Jews almost as much as they hate Muslims.
I'm not right wing, I'm not antisemitic, and I never liked Charlie Kirk.
Still think there's a good chance Netenyahu was involved in his death. I don't believe he acted alone though. Hours before he was killed the house and the Senate tried to investigate connections between Epstein, big banks like JP Morgan, Netenyahu, Elon Musk, and others. Republicans in the House and Senate blocked it and barely anyone noticed bc suddenly Charlie Kirk was assassinated and a bizarre series of incidents allowed the killer to get away.
Trump immediately began calling for war on the left and Elon Musk suddenly went on his white supremacy world tour.
The investigation into the suspect has been botched as fuck, and they claim that they had a note he wrote confessing to the murder but it was destroyed.
The House voted again yesterday and again Republicans blocked a subpoena of big banks involved in this connection. And once again barely anybody noticed bc the Trump admin is still distracting with war on the left avenging Charlie Kirk's murder (which they most likely helped carry out).
Kirk was rumored to have refused to accept money from Israel, but he also had been one of the few right wing propaganda outlets who backtracked after making the statement that he wouldn't talk about Epstein. He made the statement then after backlash from his fans he said he would keep covering it.
There were several powerful individuals that would have been very angry at him and also needed a big distraction right around the time he was assassinated. The question is who actually gave the order for the go ahead? Who orchestrated it and who sent who to carry it out?
P.s.: I love Jews and I love Muslims. I hate corrupt governments and individuals that use entire groups of humans as a scapegoat to distract from their own evil bullshit. We used to call people that did that Nazis.
Who orchestrated it and who sent who to carry it out?
And was it a lucky coincidence? Were witches involved to spell the assassination out in scary-looking sticks?
You know that some people distantly benefiting from something doesn't mean that they orchestrated it, right?
Trump immediately began calling for war on the left
Yeah, because the right knows not to waste a tragedy.
But also, they were already doing that. They've been calling for war on the left, like, since before Trump took the presidency again. Kirk has barely upped the temperature from the insane shit they were saying a month ago.
And a big part of why they support Israel so much is that it's a way to get all the Jews out of America.
As Netanyahu's open love for Charlie Kirk shows, Christofascim exists to direct hate towards Muslims. Replacement theory is about not letting Judeo-Christian "foundation of America" (1776, really?) get diluted by muslims and other ethnicities hatred of supremacists by their declaration of war in producing non-conforming future voters.
Anti semitism is the greatest tool for Zionist supremacist hate groups, like the ADL or Bill Ackman, to get a pretense for media airtime in which to advocate for genocide.
Proud boys members came to CA University protests in order to bash anti-genocide protestors. Hatred that is more focused on muslims than jews is the goal of Zionist supremacism, and the hatred of Jews, extremely useful to convincing simpletons that victimhood deserves their supremacism.
He left behind a wife and two kids. That's how we know Israel didn't do it.
Stolen from here
BTW, Netanyahu having to deal with actual antisemites peddling conspiracy theories sounds a lot like the boy who cried wolf
I didn't think they had anything to do with it until this.
Netanyahu made a couple of social media posts about it when it happened, but there's now not really another sensible reason why the PM of a random country cares about an American podcaster so much.
I can't tell if you're being serious or not
The more the Netanyahu reacts to this the more he shows where his head is at.
The PM of a different country is placing a lot of importance on what was before, just seen as an American podcaster by the mainstream.
This coupled with his "if I go down the global right goes down with me" post he made last week just makes it even more sus IMO
well i didn't until i read this headline
me neither fuckin smudge lenses
"Because charlie kirk was an adult"
-bibi Netanyahu probably
Holy shit, they killed Charlie Kirk??!
I never even considered Israel could be responsible. Very nice of Netanyahu to clear that up.
What an odd thing to say...
well coming from such a genuine stand up kind of guy who never does evil things. no sir. yeah I can totally trust this is true.
Every time he tells a lie, his ears grow slightly.
Seems racist
Ok, didnt ask.
damn, i didn't think they did until they said they didn't. one thing i know is that they can't tell the truth
If they hadn't then there is no reason to declare this.
Entirely possible they didn't have him killed, but that doesn't mean they didn't lose control over the monsters they've made.
Sus
This sounds exactly what someone who did kill Charlie Kirk would say. /s
Real talk y'all, I didn't even really think to entertain that conspiracy until this.
we're at the point where NothingYahWho has to list who he didn't kill last week.
Not sure why Israel would do that...not smart enough to come with a creative reason...but, damn, I'm a little suspicious now
Nothing strange here.
It's just like the formal declaration we all made as individuals, to deflect suspicion from ourselves.
Totally normal.
He begins his declaration by quoting Joseph Goebbels
That was very necessary I guess
Somewhere in Iran a propaganda operative is sitting proud
Surely you mean Qatar?
Honestly probably both at this point
Big Lie you say?
40 beheaded raped babies in ovens!
Watching Israel cosy up to the far right is like watching someone free themselves from a bear trap, reset it, and start running straight at it again
People, i know his goons gun down children in Gaza on the regular, but if you read the article it explains that several maggats have been accusing him of having a grudge against Kirk for his recent opposition to the aforementioned gunning down of children.
TLDR: He's not saying it out of the blue. People have been accusing him
Everyone's taking the 'what an odd thing to feel obligated to announce at all' view/reaction
Does anyone else have an internal critic that starts also screaming "wait, they also know everyone can't react any other way--are they banking on us being unable to let go of the numerous suspicions that will continue to live rent-free in our minds for days?"
I know I'm being paranoid, but please someone help bring me back down to a level-headed take on this matter I beg you!
You're being paranoid. On this matter. Calm your tits. Hope that helps.
Yes, there was a ludicrous conspiracy theory that Israel took him out. This is a genocidal nation-state leader calling bullshit. It's bullshit. You tits. Calm them.
Charlie Kirk was supposed to be of the maga faction that supported Israel. Why would Bibi want to whack him?
He was going anti Israel for a little while
I guess now we need to figure that out.
Charlie Kirk was very pro-Israel most of his career, but lately he had been turning against Israel. It is consistent and beliavable that Israel had him killed.
Believable except for the part where there is zero evidence
In other news, Hamas formally states it was not using Charlie Kirk as a human shield, Israeli strike totally unjustified.
So….? They did?
Well we know it wasn’t Russia since no windows were involved.
It's clear that Zionist supremacism was a central issue in the murder. Netanyahu's absurdity statement proves it.
There are 2 wings of Christofascism. The dominant Zionist first, Judeo-Christofascism, and the obvious alternative of Groyper/Fuentes concern that Israel first rule over America feels wrong. Qatari funding to be against Zionist supremacist rule over America is simply not needed to understand that Israel first means Americans last.
Robinson, if he did it, seemed to be of Groyper wing of Christofascim. Kirk distancing himself from Ackman's Zionist absolutism, would make sense for Kirk's credibility even if devoted, as Netanyahu confirms, to Zionist supremacism rule over America. Kirk simply cannot be as demonic as Ackman on genocide and absolutist rule, and have his audience take him seriously.
It's not as though the US is going to investigate Ackman, Trump and anti-Mamdani mega donor, for any role in this, anymore than they let the dancing Israelis "there to document the event" flee the US after 9/11.
oh, please get a life.
You must hate people who know about things and think about things. Do puzzles scare you?
Well there goes the Republicans plan to label Tyler as part of Hamas.
Is this the sound of a bunch of chickens, coming home to roost?
Israel admits they helped radicalize the right wing shooter.
It's Bibi flexing muscles in the most inappropriate way once again. Almost like a brand account posting a deeply unfunny meme joke but said account is for an international spy/terrorist network.
But young person being afraid of getting mossad'ed for his internet posting for a long period of time and not getting any (medical) attention is the centerpiece of that story, not the eventual snap, and not even a backlash we see in the media now. There are a lot of these neglected and driven insane dudes that fash chaotically nurtured with no understanding of how to manage them, or even care, more likely hoping they'd ride the wave. Well, Shapiro canceled his appearance right after the event, and the whole martyr thing is probably also because they want to retarget such shooters from now on, exaggerating how it's wrong to harm exactly them, not the other side, assuming there is still more to come and being afraid of how indiscriminate these attacks would be. Seizing the opportunity is one thing, but I do find they geniunely weren't prepared for what they wished into existence.
So they did, huh?
Unlike Nazi Germany, Israel will actually have to live with whatever the consequences of their actions with the US and the rest of the world are in the longterm, so the whole striving towards a "Supersparta" definitely makes sense. Israel is superfluous to the authoritarian regime change Trump is bringing in.
What an odd thing to say.
I only have a vague idea of what Kirk stood for so can someone please explain why anyone would think that Israel killed him? Wasn't he a Trump supporter - and by extension a supporter of Israeli policy?
It's because supposedly he changed his views on Israel, and Netanyahu confirmed he invited Charlie to Israel to discuss this like a week or two before Charlie died and said he was changing his mind again.
Candace Owens (yarf) has acted emotional about this, there's rumors she was having an affair, or her husband and Charlie were having an affair and she didn't know but was close to him from that. There are also other rumors about Charlie hooking up with men. Anyway, Candace Owens is primarily the one pushing the anti-Israel stuff and that Netanyahu killed him.
Remembering that she is owned by Russia, it could be that she is just stirring up drama while Russia starts fucking with Poland and Romania and NATO
let me get this cued up for when green comments:
