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'Not medically well': Trump's health questioned after his face seen drooping at 9/11 event

www.rawstory.com 'Not medically well': Trump's health questioned after his face seen drooping at 9/11 event

President Donald Trump spoke at the Pentagon for the annual Sept. 11 event, but some of his expressions are prompting questions about his health. After large bruises appeared on Trump's hands and his legs swelled as a result of chronic venous insufficiency, observers have been hyper-focused on the p...

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Probably why he posted an AI eulogy for Kirk
- I don't know if it's completely AI...
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q1N6Akpz9c
  It feels more like a really really advanced filter. Which explains why he keeps his body almost perfectly still, to the point he holds his hands together the whole time.
  Those filters don't like movement, but I've literally never seen him be so still before.
  Like, he filmed it, that's actually trump in the video, then they ran a deep fake filter with him with a "better" face/hands. But so it wouldn't stick out, they ran the same filter over everything else, which is why everything looks AI in the video despite no plausible reason.
  It's sounds tinfoily until you remember this is trump we're talking about, he's done way worse
  
  There’s oddness that’s also affecting the window in the background. You see it move around odd when he moves around odd.
  He’s clearly covering his right hand.
  
  I'm on board with a heavy filter at the very least. I think he has the hand of a stroke victim and covering it. My theory is many, mini strokes.
  
  I heard someone mention it could be Adobe Premiere or some shit like that.
  It’s definitely doctored in some way.
  Reminds me a lot of the lengths they went to hide the fact that FDR was in a wheelchair way back.
  
  It might be another person and they glued trump's face on them with ai. Then tehy edited the best takes.
  
  Did people forget that we've been editing videos for decades before "AI" existed?
  
  *recorded. This isn't 1950, nobody uses film anymore.
- https://packaged-media.redd.it/0dqg6jnjukof1/pb/m2-res_480p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1757646000&s=409ba24eb3124beb170cfa1260b9e574575bc375
  Just look at this video from today, obviously stroked
  
  Damn, Moves the left hand then looks at the right not move. For a narcissist, trapped in your own body may just be the worst thing.
  
  Every day brings more good news.
  
  Which one?
- Yes, the real one would be like, Charlie, great guy. Dead. Sad. I remember one time he said mister president, I really look up to you—may I see your collection of master locks?
- After seeing this, I am 100% on the "it was AI" train. They may have used him or even someone else as a sit in to overlay onto. Kinda like MOCAP.
- I saw someone mention something about his hands but that was quickly debunked. Was there anything else that proved it to be faked?
  
  How was it debunked?
  You can clearly see his pinky finger melting into his palm and then his ring finger becoming his new pinky if you play the official video on YouTube at 0.25 speed.
  https://lemmy.world/post/35748353/19324281
  Im not saying the whole video is fake, but there's definitely something weird about the video
  
  It definitely wasn't debunked. A justification for how it might have happened was presented but that is in no way a "debunking".
- That damn ~~autopen~~ AI.

We all want him gone, I'm just always gonna be sore we won't ever see him destitute and imprisoned. We shouldn't have had to rely on the inevitable to rid us of this human parasite.
- Maybe he'll suffer for a few months unable to get out of bed while getting to scroll through posts of death-wishes and people celebrating?
  Would be nicer if he was handcuffed to said bed for the duration though-- for being found guilty of raping children since he is a child rapist who raped kids.
  
  Honestly, that would be worse for us, as they’d continue to invoke his name and say “this is what he wants done” and autopen the shit out of things with us having no recourse to prove otherwise.
  At least if he’s confirmed dead, they can still invoke his name, but it’ll be blunted and it will hopefully put a serious crack, if not break, the cult of personality hold on a lot of MAGAts
- Death is the great equalizer
- Honestly I don’t even care about justice anymore I just want the bleeding to stop so we can start healing
- Well, there's always his family, ya?
- Understandable but gotta be pragmatic and take the wins we get.

Considering how much he likes golf, does this mean he’s taken some strokes off his game?
- He will lie about not having a stroke like he lies about his golf strokes.
- I do not know but he still managed a full throated response to the kirk incident.
  
  I’m honestly more than a little suspicious that some staffer just made a deepfake

Ma boy doesn’t look good at all. Time to prepare some champagne, just in case.

I wanna see the fucker go down like a sack of potatos mid self-aggrandizing rant and the bonk of his head off the podium to be sampled into a thousand ebm tracks
- I miss '80s and '90s industrial music filled with sampled speeches too.
  
  Skinny Puppy coming out of retirement for one track makes my wee wee tickle
  
  ¿Como eso?
- Fingers crossed, hitting your head super hard when falling is also a pretty good way to die. People hit their heads on nightstands falling out of beds and die all the time.
- dude i have a Benjamin down on an Elvis. Doesn't have to be eating, but we're talking massive blowout on camera
- This has been my biggest wish

Sorry to upset people thinking of him dieing soon, but they're going to sit him in a gold throne, kept barely alive, in suspended animation, then keep him alive and in charge for 40,000 years.
They'll use AI every time they want him to "say something".
- That's it, I'm jumping in the nearest warp storm.
  
  I'm gonna join the first Genestealer cult that gets to me first.
- So does that mean they need to sacrifice 1000 teenage girls a day to keep it powered?
  
  Basically, yes. It's all explained in the Epstein Files.
- Can something die if it was never truly alive?
- Heck, we need Karl Franz, not the emperor of mankind.
  
  With our luck we'll end up with a Goge Vandire. Trump's death will cause a power vacuum and it will get worse.
  
  SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS
- https://youtube.com/watch?v=YCTgcZ6ImsQ
  They are going to "Weekend at Bernie's" his bloated ass...ha!

I hope him a slow and ludicrously insane painful death with much suffering.
- There's already suffering because of this asshole. I'm ok with him being gone.
- Absolutely not. It'll be much better for all concerned if he mentally deteriorates while he's still physically well, so that he's acting like a lost grandpa at press conferences, visibly shitting himself, forgetting what's going on in interviews and not even being able to cover it as well as he currently does his forgetting-what's-going-on-and-covering-it, all that stuff.
  Let it play out to do as much undoing as possible to the cult of "Trump can do no wrong" because they're trying to double down to their friends and family about how he definitely didn't just spend five minutes yelling about "the Japs" and drooling when he was talking to reporters or something. That would be my wish, at least.
  
  He was already doing that stuff during the election.
- Id rather it be immediate and public. Just keels the fuck over on live TV out of nowhere so we can move on quickly.
- Not too slow plz, like they'll 100 fucking percent have him running shit from a hospital bed
- Wouldn’t have minded if Crooks was a better shot

yeah cool... where are the Epstein files?

Can’t wait to see trump wearing sunglasses and going everywhere with Hegseth and RFK Jr. propping him up as they walk around and pretend to have him whisper things in their ear that they relay to us.
They’ll probably just be boring and use AI, but I’m still hoping for a Weekend at Bernie’s.
- Weekend at Donny's

So what happens to project 2025 when the mouth piece responsible for Trump's Gen Z support dies, Trump dies, and VP Couch Fucker becomes president?
I don't see a lot of people putting up with the Heritage Foundation's bullshit if the snake is rattleless and headless.
- We can only hope
- The question is whether the democrats will actually meaningfully act to undo any of project 2025. The way they act now it seems like it's coin flip on whether or not they'll continue it themselves.
  I mean, they're going to want to win over those same voters once Trump is gone so they don't really have much reason to not have hard shift to the right.
  
  Dems crave the approval of the right and have spite for the left, embarrassed at any support they get from the left.
  Without new dems we will not find out newsom will lose or have it taken from him and after 2028 it will be fixed up tight(er.)
- Trump won't live much longer. He is on serious life support.

You know what should make him feel better? A bunch of fried chicken and a big pot of coffee!
- A line of coke and a big ol hit of the meth pipe should give him the pick me up he needs
  
  Ohh no. He doesn’t do that. Anymore. Very much.

Well, I wish him the worst, and hope for the slowest, most agonizing recovery for him.
- What a vile sentiment. This is a human person that is a felon and a rapist and actively brings harm to marginalized people, and you wish him a recovery?!
  
  My post was clearly a reference to wishing people well and a speedy recovery, but now that I saw the other response to my post I do want Trump to survive for the rest of the year, giving Vance less potential time at the helm
  
  A painful agonizing one that will lead to a false hope of recovery. Commenter was playing the “long game” when it came to well wishes.
- Who said anything about recovery?!
- Well, if he recovers and makes it over the 2 years before JD Vance replaces him, then the 2 years won't count towards limiting Vance's two terms. However, if he kicks it like a year into it and Vance serves 3 years, then he couldn't run for a third go since the 3 years would count as 1 full term.
  
  Is it fleshed out like that?
  I do not think it will matter, Vance will not keep the supreme leader spot, he will be rejected for somebody with more Charisma in 2028.
  
  Honestly, if Vance assumes control and your democrats aren't screaming all day and all night about this unelected and illegitimate president for as long as it takes to get an election, then they really haven't learned anything about the way the game has been played for the last couple decades.
- Eww no imagine the poor people who have to take care of him and wash his absurd american body. Just put him down. He's not going to jail
- I hope your wishes come true.

Witches, unite
- Witches, untie
  
  Fuck yeah, you know what’s up

He had a stroke. COVID infected in at his age have double the chances of stroke later on.
He can talk to Charlie about how karma is a removed.
- Karma would have been him rotting in a prison cell for the last 40 or so years
  
  He might cop a locked in
  
  He will be a steaming pile of shit in his next life.
  
  I haven't given up hope.
- Uh huh. Remote diagnosis through grainy video. Bell's palsy is far more likely.

It shits me that the orange plague is going to die in comfort, surrounded by expensive doctors easing his symptoms. The pedophile cunt deserves ALL the suffering in the world, after the harm he has caused to humanity !
- He's vain. If he really did have a stroke, and can comprehend the fact that people are making fun of his droopy crooked smirk; that is worse than prison for him.
  
  Right. He always made fun of the disabled. Didn’t want to be seen with them. Must be hell for him.
  
  @brem @drhodl
  Probably true, but am I selfish to want both?
- There's still hope that he'll become a locked in vegetable
- On the bright side, they can't call the fucker a martyr, and I'll finally get to pop the cork on my bottle of champagne.

Definitely looks like a stroke. Just like the posters in hospitals where they tell you to immediately notify staff if you see a face like that.

Loving that for him!

Famous people always die three at a time. It's a rule....of three. Let's go #2!
And if this is from a stroke, $100 says that's where he was that weekend he "died".

False hope sucks, don't tell us until something more substantial happens
- Yeah, people have been saying this kind of thing for almost 10 years now. It's wishful thinking.
  
  10 years? I only started to hear about it from around 2021. He was significantly less energetic at the time compared to his first term.
- Right before i got banned from reddit, people starting posting articles that said "Trump, 79, build a new concrete garden..."
  Stop playing with my emotions like that!!! Those titles aren't cool.
- Well if it makes you feel any better, things will get worse after his replacement is able to more effectively implement the party's agenda.

He's been not stroking out for years, why start now?
https://www.dailydot.com/news/trump-mini-strokes-tweet/

Please just fucking stroke out.

Lots of people, the best people in fact, are saying it was another mini stroke.
- The best mini stroke they've ever seen.
  I might have to agree.
  
  The doctor had tears in his eyes and he said, “sir, this was a stroke of genius.” You know my uncle was a genius, very good brain, good genes, that I can tell you.

That Charlie Kirk announcement video looked so Ai, dude is gonna drop dead any day
- It's not ai, stop spreading weird conspiracy theories. It's super obvious the video was recorded live three months ago when this op was greenlit.

Come on guys, it's a bit mean to suggest he's had a stroke.
He could have simply shat his pants due to dementia, as is perfectly normal and healthy for the commander in chief of the most powerful military in the world to do.

That's not a droop. That's just Trump making a "I went doodie" face.
Cause he probably did.
- No, this is different. He doesnt even know where he is during the 9-11 event.
  
  It definitely looks like he's mentally drifting. Very, very old man vibes.
  
  Can't it be both?

In all fairness, the only photos or footage I've seen of trump in which his face doesn't look like he's melting were from like the 80s.
Being a human (ish) McDonald's grease trap will do that to you.
- I know, right? Like how the fuck did he make it this long?

Man, I saw that photo and for a brief moment I felt bad for him, but then I remembered he's a piece of shit, and deserves every health problem he gets and then some.

Sooner he goes back to hell the faster we can fix his screwups
- Won't JD Vance step in when Trump dies?
  
  Sure he will. Stupid liar that he is will make him less popular too though

At this point are we sure this isn't an animitronic wearing Trump's skin suit?
- Is that better?
  
  Hellraiser Bloodline?

The little blood clot that could!
- Take my energy little clot

Y’all been questioning his health for fucking ten years now.
- he just keeps getting younger and more mentally stable 🤓 aneurisms are a sign of genius
- He's gotta die eventually
  
  God fucking willing
- Back then, it was questions about early indicators of dementia. Wow, how wrong we were! /s
  
  Seriously with someone as batshit as him, speaking like a raving lunatic at all times, how could you tell he has dementia? It's like trying to diagnose a palm injury on a guy with no arms.

South Park should do an episode with the child rapists dick also drooping on one side.

Excuse me. You mean the charlie kirk memorial event. Fuck those losers in the planes or the towers or the pentagon or all the first responders who died on that day or who survived and still have difficulty getting their long term medical issues treated. I mean, we were going to ignore all the people whose lives we ruined with the resulting wars regardless. But whatever, this is AMERICA. We only care about nazis who take advantage of children!
But yeah. Fuckface has been in very poor health for a while. Just a question of how long he hangs on. Already way too long.

Bell's palsy? Botox side effect? Too much numbing for dental work? So many possibilities when you trust pseudoscience and "doctors".
- He’s only sad about Charlie on his left side.

They say "bad news comes in threes."
So I'm sure it won't happen this week.

Hmm. How poetic would it be if he had Bells Palsy. Go look up the name of the virus that causes that.
- Why’d we have to look it up ourselves? You couldn’t just tell us? 😂🤣 OK, OK, yeah that would definitely be poetic justice. But the Wikipedia entry I read says it’s only suspected of being a cause, so 🤷‍♂️
- There are a lot of things that can cause bells palsey, viruses are one, not sure which but would guess hpv, herpes, but can be bacterial and in many cases they cannot find the cause.
  What virus are you referring ro?
  
  Epstein-Barr, but it's just as likely chicken pox

Bell's Palsy maybe? I don't think stroke victims are able to pretend they are well while it is in progress.
- I believe you right side can stay paralyzed after a stroke. Doesn't have to be in progress.
  
  Yeah my knowledge of strokes is quite limited. I only figured out there were different types, i.e. blood vessels in brain bursting vs blockage in heart stopping blood to brain. There are probably more.
- That was my first thought too. Bells Pasy just makes your face droop. You're not cognitively impaired in any way from it. My step dad had that back about 10 years ago maybe? Only thing that makes me think it might be more is his face is far droopier than my stepdads ever was.
  I feel like Bells Palsy is a sort of paralysis from the virus/bacteria (i forget which one it is that causes it). And this seemed more extreme. But who knows, cant diagnose someone from a picture.
  Edit: Cause unknown for Bells Pasy. You learn something new every day. I thought it was caused by a virus or bacterial infection, thats what I was told as a kid.
  
  It can be caused by lyme disease but not necessarily.
- That was my thought too. It happened to my mom once. Half of the face sort of sags

he'll be the oldest president in history upon leaving office.
That assumes he makes it 3 years. I'm not so sure that his health will hold out that long.

Wow he's stroking out now huh

His mental health is long gone. His body is trying to keep up.

Trump in the year 2325 after his 75th term in office.

I'd rather him get shot in the neck
- It’d just get stuck in his goiter/neckvagina, unfortunately.
  Maybe the universe will bless us with a good solid fall/hip fracture.

Die soon?
Pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease

Musk makes a very similar duck face when he's not happy.

I don't ever want Trump to be assassinated, I want to watch his slow decline to madness in real time.
- We already seeing the slow decline to madness since last decade. The problem is that we should watch it from a camera in his jail, not in the most powerful sear in the world
- Seems kinda messed up. Assassination / public execution at least help give others in similar position a reminder that they should not cross some lines.
  
  Watching a person fall apart on their own crushes their followers' motivation
  
  Hard to plot revenge against diseases while also withholding medical care and funding.

Tbf that’s the same face my dad makes when he’s falling asleep on the couch

no no, this is not Trump having a stroke. don't get fooled! Trump is dead, this is just the robot they replaced him with having a little malfunction. wake up, sheeple! /s

Wishing him the worst 🙏

Ah, Denzel kept making that same face in that new Spike Lee movie. I'm gonna need more than that.

Half his face was simply mourning Chuckles. That's all.

What are the chances that two of our last presidents suffered from serious mental degradation and other health issues? There must be a connection. Dangerous mold in the oval office maybe?
- More like dangerous old
- Yeah, age

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