Ignorance is bliss
Ignorance is bliss
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After you block a few hundred groups of anime and nonsense it’s surprisingly enjoyable.
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Sorry about that, some people don't know ani.social exists and create comms on the wrong instances. They're supposed to show up in my local feed, but now they're in yours and you don't even appreciate them!
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When you block that many groups how many new posts do you see? And how do you sort the posts?
I have only blocked a few groups but added a filter for posts containing trump or elon in the title as I get plenty of that crap from other sources.
Regarding the anime and furry posts, they come in waves so it's not constant or if I want to get a break from the yiffing I switch between sorting by Hot, Scaled and Top 6hrs.
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Not who you are asking, but I block a lot of communities (almost all of them political, when I want to look at political stuff I will go to other sources.) But I also sub to a lot of communities. It is possible for me to reach the bottom of my feed, but since I mostly check it between doing other things, it takes anywhere from a few hours to most of the day. And that's with me setting it to "Top Day" as my primary filter. If I'm really bored I'll do a pass through Top Week or Top Month. If I'm STILL bored, I'll set it to Active or New Comments, but usually by then it's like, "Okay time to go do something else" and I'll try to find some other activity to do.
This is a feature, not a bug IMO.
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i just blocked lemmy.world and my feed is immediately 20x better
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I was very supportive of Beehaw defederating from lemmy.world early. It's lovely.
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I'm still mad at the 196 mods for causing even more 196 commies to be made for me to block.
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I kinda love that people are willing to deal with these various technicalities and unknowns as a worthwhile compromise as long as it's not [input any walled-garden here]
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Cheers to all the brothers and sisters out there helping out their siblings!
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@threeduck@aussie.zone aussie.zone is your server where your account resides
In all everything from other instances are shown while in local only your instance. If you want to find subs just select all and search or got to all in the feed bar and subscribe-
Don't sorry, they got answers
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Lemmy isn't too hard, it's just annoying at times. Like when your instance hasn't downloaded the content of a given community and it just looks empty until you subscribe to it.
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Wow, so that's how it works. I signed up to a couple because they interested me and hoped in the future something would be posted, or I would, and then saw a heap of posts.
It wasn't dark magic after all. Perhaps it was psionics?
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If one user of your instance is subscribed to a community on another instance, then that community is visible on that instance as well.
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My account was shut down without notice a few weeks ago. The server providing my account shut down. All comments, saved links and history was gone.
How do you explain this to a non-technical user while reassuring that this is a great system?
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"you know how when a corner shop closes in town, you're still able to go to a different store, but if safeway has driven all the other stores out of business and then shuts down you'll fucking starve to death?"
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A little pain in exchange for longtime gain?
Oh no, TIL that the Fediverse is "exercise" - no wonder most Westerners avoid us! 🤪
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"Choose an instance that provides monthly reports, including finances, such as !home@lemmy.zip"
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Hypothetical response:
"Sure, that's an option, but no other social media I use requires a routinely read regarding whether I need to backup my saved items because it might shut down."
Let me just be clear that I personally don't have a problem with how lemmy runs, but I do think that difficulties and issues are heavily downplayed for potential users.
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It's crazy to me that whatever program you used to make that account on that server didn't automatically force a backup location on the same device where the account is used. On Android, some folder. On desktop, some folder. And it's crazy to me that we can't just import all of our votes, comments, and posts in that backup to another account on the same device or another.
That is a terrible system. No answers from me. Just questions
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Doing that requires content addressing. It's what atproto is built around (bluesky's protocol) but nobody's made a proper forum variant of it yet
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Don't be vain. Cast your shit into the void and let it go.
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how do i find the users in my instance? I own the instance lol and I have no idea how to query for active users
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Shhh, embrace freedom
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It is complicated, and I like a little barrier to entry.
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It's like needing to know the password before being let into the treehouse.
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"Fuck spez!"
"Yes, yes, come in, come in!!"
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Yes me too, try PeerTube it is even more complicated.
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I followed reddit sync over to lemmy. I didn't know how anything works but my experience has been roughly the same as it was with Reddit. I like the discussion here more though.
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Exactly the same. And I still don't know anything about this place after 2 years. At least here I bothered to create a profile unlike reddit where I was just browsing and never posting anything
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I have to say this is my experience too. I'm a boomer and whatever stumble upon here is purely coincidental.
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https://lemmyverse.net/communities
Type a word for something you might be interested in, and if there's a community it should come up there. The main problem is still that the fediverse doesn't have enough people to support niche (or even kinda niche) interests yet
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3 legged dung beetle jump racing isn't niche!
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But you are here all the same. We appreciate you!
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Tbf you are dependent on all because most channels are dead/very slow.
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I actually saw an ad for Lemmy on reddit and here I am. Figuring out enough to make an account was worth it. They should do more ads.. or maybe not. We don't want too many of them coming here. Im still trying to cleanse my brain of the juice I drank.
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I’m kinda in this boat right now too hahah
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Any questions we could answer for you?
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I would appreciate it if you could explain how I browse instances. I am using Voyager on iOS, not sure if that’s relevant, and I was trying to search for hexbear since people keep talking about it. Nothing comes up.
Then I tried searching for lemmy.ca, but it didn’t appear as something I could go through and browse, just a few of the communities there showing up in search results. What am I doing wrong? Or misunderstanding…
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It's just a bunch of reddits all whispering in each others ears
Hey sh.itjust.works, tell feddit.uk to leave this comment and upvote
Sh.itjust.works: "Hey feddit.uk, starman2112@sh.itjust.works said to leave this comment and upvote"
Feddit.uk: "Hey lemmy.zip, starman2112@sh.itjust.works left this comment"
Lemmy.zip: "Hey Blaze, starman2112@sh.itjust.works left a comment"
And then all the federated instances get on the group chat and update the vote counter
Edit: I didn't even realize I was commenting on feddit.uk lmao this game of telephone is wild
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Good.
The barrier to entry is a feature! All those fools on FB and Reddit are there because they're told there's no friction. It's the internet version of Wal-Mart. Anyone can find their way in.
I want to hang with people who are at least smart enough to tie their shoes sign up for a Costco membership. It's a LOW barrier to entry, and that's more than enough.
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Seems like a sound though-process
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The barrier to entry is a feature!
What? No it isn't. Any individual instance is as simple to navigate as Reddit. The federation aspect is still in an early stage of development and implementation.
Twenty years ago, Reddit was in a similar state. It took a long time and a lot of effort to improve the system enough to be easily navigated and searchable (and then more time to mangle these features in the name of monetization).
But the idea that federated instances being difficult to traverse and filter against are intentional is utterly bogus.
I want to hang with people who are at least smart enough to tie their shoes
If you're not navigating Lemmy via VIM, you are literally a baby who shits himself and needs someone to change his diaper.
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Wow. You're very much not understanding - I'm definitely not saying it's intentional. It's a take on the "It's not a bug, it's a feature" notion.
I'm saying that signing up for Lemmy not being as one-size-fits-all intuitive as Web 2.0 social media is a net benefit because anyone who tries to sign up, gets confused SO easily, and then frustrated and gives up is not the kind of person we want taking up server space on a Lemmy instance.
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Lemmy isn't hard, it's just different
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It's not even that different really.
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It's literally just reddit but a bunch of them
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yeah, the ui is a total ass, but its fun
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Dude it's 2025 is that good ass or bad ass
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Good ass. It's not perfect but it respects your boundaries, tries its damnedest, down for any fetish/kink, there when you fall asleep and when you wake up.
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Which ui? The slrn style ncurses client that I don't know if it exists or something else?
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I still don't fully understand what Fediverse and instance means.
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The Fediverse is like a country, and an instance is like a town connected to the other towns in that country. You're free to travel, visit, and interact with people in all the other towns that have their roads connected.
Each town has its own rules and culture, but they generally get along with all the other towns in the country. You can even choose to build your own town with your own rules and have a road connected to the rest.
On the other hand places like Facebook or Twitter are like huge, walled cities where you can only interact with people inside that city. They also claim the rights to all of your data to sell off.
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I love great analogies.
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Fediverse is like a country
I might even go one level up. The Fedeverse is like a network of connected countries like the EU.
Platforms like Reddit or Twitter are isolated countries like North Korea.
I'm glad I found my way out.
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Nice analogy, I might repost this to !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Fediverse = universe of federated instances.
Federation = many entities connected together and interoperating, etc
Instance: every individual Lemmy site with its own domain name runs an instance (a running copy of the software) on its server.
Those servers are talking to each other so users on one can talk to users on another server. That's federation.
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Wonder how people manage grocery shopping in more than one shop.
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how is feddi formed?
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I find it is a lot easier to search through communities and instances on a desktop. Mobile is clunky even through some of the apps that have been developed are pretty good.
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Tbf, PieFed's categories of communities and user-customizeable and shareable Feeds greatly simplify the UX in working with communities (ironically more so on a mobile than desktop, surely an oversight that will be fixed soon).
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how come I can't view "all" meaning every post from every community in every instance?
"subscribed" is the exact same thing as "all"
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My understanding is, if the fediverse is a web of instances (being the server/domain you signed up and have an account on), 'all' only has the context of everything on your home instance and stuff people on your instance are subscribed to.
So not just your own personal subscribe, but the entire subscribe of any user from redlemmy.com in your case.
Your all is likely different than my all. There is no true 'all' because of how communities connect and aren't contingent on each other's existence, and things like instances defederating from others.
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“subscribed” is the exact same thing as “all”
It shouldn't be! If you subscribe to a couple communities, your "subscribed" feed on the front page should only show posts from those communities. The "all" feed will show posts from all communities that everyone on your instance (server) subscribe to. "Local" should show posts only from the communities hosted on your own instance.
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I don't understand why sometimes when I click on asklemmy at the top of the old.lemmy.world ui, sometimes it goes to regular asklemmy and sometimes it goes to asklemmy@lemmy.ml. And I don't understand why these two communities have completely different posts.
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They are two completely different communities that just happen to share their names. (And one of them is full of tankies, while yours isn't)
How this works is the same with email: You can have john.smith@gmail.zz and you can have john.smith@outlook.com , but although those do have the same first name, the two addresses do not point to the same mailbox.
If a community is on your own instance (servers are called instances on Lemmy), then the part after @ is not shown. So, there is asklemmy@lemmy.world, and there is asklemmy@lemmy.ml. The latter one is luckily empty, as nothing on .ml is written without serious brainrot.
The one you see only as "asklemmy" is asklemmy@lemmy.world. There are actually this many asklemmys:
Each of the above is an independent community. Each one was founded by a different person and has different moderators, etc.
When you login to Lemmy, you go to lemmy.world and login there. I don't. I do not have a user account on lemmy.world, which is one of the instances (servers) for Lemmy. However, I do have a user account on sopuli.xyz, which is another instance. When I log in to that, I can read anything written on any instances that have federated with sopuli.xyz. We are having this conversation in a community on yet another instance:
As you can see there, this community is located on an instance called lemmy.uk.
So, I am reading this through sopuli.xyz, which has a connection to lemmy.uk. When I write something, Sopuli sends all the text to lemmy.uk which then saves it. And then your instance, lemmy.world, has a connection to lemmy.uk as well, and shows you whatever is shown on that instance. When a Lemmy-instance creates such a connection to another instance, it is called federating.
The nice thing about this construction is that if someone tries taking over Lemmy, they only take over their own instance. Its users can just migrate to another instance, create an account there and continue almost as if nothing had happened. And if some instance is not moderating its users' activities properly, other instances can defederate from it. That means: They can stop showing their users content from the badly behaving instance, and also the users from that instance won't see anything held on the other instance.
I hope this blabbering helped!
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Would love a "subbed" category too, nether all nor local nor front-page does that ??!
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On Voyager there is Home which is subscribed communities. All / Home / Local.
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I love Voyager because I was a big Apollo user back on Reddit.
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All I want is keep scrolling new funny. Lemmy gives me that.
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Bro is right
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watching and participating in the boomerification of millenials (in regards to lack of tech literacy/ competance) is quite upsetting.
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As long as you can clear the single minor technical barrier to entry you're welcome here. It may be the lowest of hurdles, but Reddit threw all their hurdles away a while ago and just let anyone capable of moving forward on a flat surface in.
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And bots. Don't forget the bots
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Most bots meet that criteria.
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we need more of these people more or less, even though yes, they're dumb, that's like.. most of the population when it comes to the internet (like, only the young people even know of reddit here, much less use it..) and then there's the specific niches that are barely living in lemmy.. ah, end users..
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The fediverse is big enough for everyone, and unless there's ill-intent or something damaging in a user/instance, I don't see any point with excluding them. All this would do is limit growth, and may actually be the attitude that let's it shrink into a slow death.
If you don't like a user or instance, block them and go about your business.
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tbf I also was confused as hell when I joined reddit. Don't need to know everything to participate.
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My main thing right now is trying to figure out how to visit/subscribe to other communities, particularly those outside of Aussie.zone
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But, after all that it's still better than Reddit.
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Typical Fediverse take.
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Oh no I don't know how to choose a server and sign up, in fact I appear to not know anything at all.
some end user
I swear to fucking god, when I become an end user, please shoot me in the head alright? I don't want to look like the biggest fucking moron on earth to anybody that is able to Google and read something for like 30 seconds.
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I don't think the usability of Lemmy is the problem, it's just users not wanting to tune out of mainstream social media. Everybody is there. Why wouldn't they? It's where everyone is. And convincing people that the massive shift in the type of content you can consume is worth it to not be consuming the content all your friends consume. It's a catch 22. The only thing we can do is to post as much content in the fediverse as possible. I don't think framing the general public as incompetent is helping either. Of course you didn't make the comparison in the first place. I really hope the vast majority of the users of social media are able to Google something.
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Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
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Same
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I struggle to understand how such a person can drive a car and buy groceries if they can't figure out these extremely simple concepts
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why am i being called out here
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This is why federation is not the solution to centralized services. The solution is called decentralized, or P2P. I don’t even understand why ActivityPub got so popular, when it is one of the worst protocols in terms of communication. But whatever. I’m still here. Because it is still better than Reddit
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Federation is decentralized. I feel like some major structural issues would exist with p2p, like would I only see posts from people actively online while I am online?
What other protocols do you think would suit the needs of a decentralized social media better?
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You would still need servers to connect to. Take a look how Solana works - the same concept (with or without the blockchain) would work for social media.
Unfortunately there is no really good protocol. ActivityPub has the purpose of making things interconnected between different worlds. Like, Lemmy with Mastadon. But for that you have to find a common denominator, stripping away all the good stuff, for a feature that no one really wants.
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yeah pretty much
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It's not that is too complicated, it's the fact that there's no one here.
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Is this you?
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Username checks out?
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Lmao
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It just gets boring arguing with the same 12 accounts. That said some of these people putting in a full days worth of work to keep the memes and other content flowing. They the real mvps
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Arguing? Nobody's arguing here. And last I counted, there were DOZENS of accounts, not just 12!
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Reddit wasn't much different. Even at the beginning there were accounts everyone recognized.
Just do what I do. Block the people that post a crazy amount of things. Those people are probably just pulling from r/all/topalltime and reposting anyways so it's not like you're losing anything of value.
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There are dozens of us!
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You need to switch up how you view it. Go to
- Hot
- 6 hour
- Scaled
- Active
That'll get you an hour or so depending on what instance you're on. Your instance decides what you see on All and Hot. That's why it is kind of important which instance you choose. If one gets too big, it controls what most people see.
According to the recent stats, there are millions of people here every day. That means you're not seeing them.
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More or less yes for me too. Hot is my default, then Active. I also toggle both between All and Subscribed.
I don't come here to lose hours usually, but the above is plenty for me.
I only wish we had a good equivalent to /r/publicfreakout. I'm having to seek out protest videos elsewhere, and I refuse to go to reddit, and they don't seem as prolific as they did in 2020.
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The population here is like a tiny slice of what it is on reddit, there's no one here
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You're not a nobody. We care for you and hope you find peace lord
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@threeduck@aussie.zone you're getting famous
Fedi-famous (the best kinda currently)
Ascending among such legends like The Picard Maneuver, SatansMaggotyCumFart and Nicole, the Fediverse Chick!
I was struggling so hard to find the original post, finally found it over on aussie.zone and then I saw that it was a lemmy.world post, an instance I've blocked on my local instance, feddit.dk. Stuff like that is what makes lemmy a bit confusing haha