"malfunctioning"
"malfunctioning"
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Segregation of labor really started just recently. Go back 10000 years and you’ll find a more even split of roles. 10000 years is fairly evolutionarily negligible- we’re largely the same, aside from some immunity quirks, homeostasis tweaks, gamete peculiarity, and cultural differences.
Pluck a baby from way back and raise it today and you’ll just be raising a pretty average immunocompromised baby.
All of that to say, “women should be in the kitchen for their own good” is unsupported by an even slightly broadened perspective. I’m pretty sure Vikings aren’t coming to rape and plunder your 200 person town, bud. Hiding your wife away is just abusive.
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Case in point, men and women are almost 50/50 in STEM careers around Eastern Europe due to the USSRs policies pushing more women into these careers.
People don't realise that these norms they hold as dogma are so short-lived and subject to change that opposition only shows them unable to comprehend history past their lived experience.
It's ashame they have to drag us down with them.
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While true, there is other issues with gender inequality in Eastern Europe like relatively higher domestic violence towards women and legislature to enable it in countries like Russia.
Inequality is a complex issue and needs to be looked at holistically. I have a feeling that often there is a focus on work and "career" although later seems to be mostly measured in some women who made it to C-levels. In that sense it remains an issue of women being supposed to "function" in a narrow line, rather than the system as a whole being questioned.
More women working full time is sold as a success of emancipation, despite it meaning more work overall for women who have children as some care work is difficult to delegate. At the same time it is a massive loss, that a lot of "life goals" like owning your own home require two full time income or just aren't reachable any more despite higher education levels.
When it comes to single parents, poverty becomes a strong problem and it helps enable abusive relationships as people are economically compelled to stay with an abusive partner. This issue moved on from the stay at home wives to women working full time too.
More income and less working hours are needed generally, and should help emancipation of women even more. In the eyes of capitalists that would be a grave "malfunction".
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I've seen some people talk about that as the harmful legacy of the USSR.
Mind you as a female engineer I agree with the communists about women.
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During the golden age of the "American dream" where a man had a car, a house, and a family, didn't the housewives end up relying on all sorts of pills and shit to not go crazy stuck in the house all day?
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10000y is an incredibly long time if you believe the earth is only 2000 years old, or whatever these idiots believe.
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If i go into the kitchen it tends to annoy the husband as i'm intruding upon his Golden Triangle.
Unless there's tea being made.
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I think this dude might be confusing women with robots.
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And maybe it's a good thing he's doing it...
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Husband, children and a home with a robot? But what use would there be for women then?
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Lol Malfunction?! wtf
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It’s crazy that people like this actually exist. Like don’t you have your own problems to solve? How do you even have time to pedal this sexist garbage.
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Literally his career. His made himself into a walking billboard and solicits donations to sustain his habit of telling creeps what they want to hear.
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I did not want to believe you... but here we are https://www.noahrevoy.com/
I'll go throw up, wash up and hug my wife and daughter
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Sad that Handmaid's Tale actually gives some people ideas
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Agree... But it's peddle
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"Women need the patriarchy because, without the patriarchy, there wouldn't be a patriarchy"
Tautology Club meets in the Tautology Club room
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Tautology Club meets in the Tautology Club room
My goodness this is killing me for no good reason 😭
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Why is this man terrified of women? He talks about them like they’re Tasmanian devils
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You always fear what you don't know
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That man ain’t seen pussy in so long, he would throw stones at one.
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This is in contrast to men, who will bring about a utopia without hunger, homelessness, war and crime. Wait.
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See the men will bring a utopia of hunger, homelessness, war, and crime. And if you call it anything other than a utopia they'll act as though you're spitting on the very foundations of Omelas.
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Oh damn, thats why I always destroy one to two buildings or one piece of critical infrastructure on my way home!
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Jesus, matey, maybe start using the restrooms in the feds' buildings? Those are deserving of destruction!
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The ONLY way this can work is if the men also choose to act with submission to their wife, children, and home.
It's almost like it shouldn't be patriarchy, but two people who love and respect one another as EQUALS in a PARTNERSHIP.
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Why would that be the only way?
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Because if you want a strong relationship with your partner, you set aside your selfish ways.
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Voluntary submission regardless of gender is fine, but the full freedom to make your choices including whether or not you submit is vital to avoiding a gender based class system which is innately destructive
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That's such a baller statement though. Guy is basically saying women will rule the world if not for the chains of the patriarchy to restrain them.
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I woukd rather nit have anything ruled, thanks.
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they malfunction and destroy civilizations
...much like politicians these days!
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And the wealthy
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Ticket cl9sed. Reason: Working as intended, advertised.
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Yeah honestly the civilization part is what gives people rights, without it we're just back to the days of unga bunga club your ideal mate over the head and hope they live to give birth.
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This man, and all men (yes, all) who hold this belief are actually weak men who are jealous and threatened by women. They need therapy to address the root cause of their toxic masculinity, not arbitrary power over half the population.
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Also the culture that causes toxic masculinity in first place needs to change, any amount of therapy alone won't fix the situation. Treating it only as a personal problem is like treating symptoms of a plague but leaving it rampant. But how to nuke the idiocy on a cultural level..? Things seem to have even taken a turn for the worse lately...
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Cut it off at the source: childhood religious indoctrination.
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not a woman but I want to partake in this event
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We can get you some low dose estrogen and they/them pronouns.
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I am so masculine, I dont take no low dose. Get me the strongest thing you got
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The gall of these guys to think women owe them civilization.
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Yeah and also the "civilization" women destroy is purely the put men first civilization - the only civilization they're interested in
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Yeah. I mean we keep trying, but they, kostly men, and mkst consistently these exact men keep getting in the way.
To misattribute a quote to a much cooler misogynist: the creative urge is also a destructive urge.
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Being a woman is not a requirement to want to destroy much of current civilization.
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"Malfunction" made me feel slightly sick. There's no shortage of misogynist rhetoric that paints women as animals, but this guy takes it a step further into reasoning about them like they're machines.
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Taking "baby factory" to a whole new level, ew
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Restore the patriarchy?
I wasn't aware we drifted.
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In the USA women didn't have the right to vote until 1920, it was legal to discriminate against them in employment until 1964, that's what that guy wants us to return to.
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How do you even get such shit in your brain?
And more importantly... I get that younger this shit in your head, but that it actually leaves your mouth... WTF?
This guy should go in a ring with some of the women I know and after a round of ass whooping, I wonder how his opinions would be
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These are the type of people who have never met or spent time around women. They create a nemesis to avoid the fact that they're the actual problem with their life.
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I guess he would think they were malfunctioning?
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Pretty sure the patriarchy and toxic masculinity is precisely why young men are having a loneliness epidemic and some are even doing mass murders, no thanks, dipshit.
Egalitarianism is the future.
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egalitarianism is the future
Ah, so, not so much.
Best we can do is 'blade runner 2049'.
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The mental image in my head is asking a lady the time and she turns and looks at you, opens her mouth to speak and black smoke starts billowing out and she starts shooting sparks at you.
It's easy to think that if half your population were eldritch horrors civilization would have a bit of trouble.
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Bleep bloop
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Am I right???
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Somebody do some glitch text reply.
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TIL I learnt that I am a destroyer of civilisations!
Unlimited powaaaaaaa!
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Civilization isn't being very civilized these days so I'm cool with this.
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Very few people want a civilization that's just a big jail cell with different tiers of guards and inmates.
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I'm gonna guess that this dude is single.
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It's a very sad fact that many men do not like women, but are attracted to them anyway.
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If I found the right person it seems he is married
My wife and I have been married for 22 years. We have three children and have been through all the ups and downs of married life while maintaining a satisfying emotional and sexual connection. I'm not just a talker promoting theory; I practice what I preach.
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Ya know, after thousands of years of civilizations really being quite shit and watching people throwing armies at each other because of childish grudges and the like, largely while under a heavily patriarchal rule…my guy what the fuck are you talking about?
As a dude, and I do know that this is not a new take, we do not have a great track record of acting rationally while leading literally anything.
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and that is, traditionally, with a wife, kids, and a home
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Yea, sounds like a good plan.
Can we men please join in? I feel dysfunctional enough for the purpose as is
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We should just let AI take over.
Just let it happen.
I'm not saying it'll be a good thing but it won't be this...
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Those glorified answering machines just propagate what is in the zeitgeist, albeit saying it a bit nicer.
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Someone misses their mommy.
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Me is with Vee
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Joke's on you, you're not getting a home, anyway.
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This is the guy who knows how to fix your marriage:
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Is that real? I've gotten good enough at massaging AI prompts to get such moronic images, but I don't know how to control certain aspects.
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As far as i can tell he's certified organic moronic https://www.noahrevoy.com/about
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Have you seen this rapist?
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Put them back in their place. Young men no longer want to contribute to society because it's all nonsense nowadays and would rather let it burn to the ground.
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Man here, I hate men like this...
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It really is the worst when shitbags like this take what could be a useful, healthy nugget of advice and paint over it with their antisocial garbage.
For all people, having a "mission" in life, finding a purpose, and having something to look forward to are all generally good things that are good for you.
Your mission that you look forward to does not need to be any specific thing that some scumbag who does not care about you prescribes.
For those of us who want families and have them, and considering that we are a social species, it also turns out that your partner, your kid(s), and your immediate environment that you can control (home) can be a pretty significant and rewarding part of your purpose each day!
It's just a part of how conservatives think that they can claim a monopoly on family values while actively destroying families left and right. Which in turn is part of their warped view of the world where to love X means hating that which is non-X.
I have the most traditional looking family you can imagine. It works great for us, and I say fuck messages like the one in the OP that say our individual paths to fulfillment must look alike.
Many of our paths DO look alike, because there are billions of us living in the same world, and that's why it's worth sharing anecdotes and advice while we shout down the "thou shalt" garbage.
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Ready and waiting. I have a rifle that is tired of deer for when shtf.
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Let's give new meaning to "witch hunt".
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Actually the reason life is such utter shit and the world is spiraling into chaos is BECAUSE of the patriarchy. There is a vast majority of "normal people" that don't care about much else besides having sex and raising kids. When you've chosen to spend your life supporting a family, you don't have room to give a single flying fuck about the dangers authoritarianism, gay/trans rights, concentration camps and general cruelty governments and corporations are always comitting against the masses. Even pretending to care about this stuff can undermine your ability or freedom to raise a family in some places. This leaves the rest of us on our own to fight the obviously losing battle with all the miserable pieces of human trash that want life to be hard "because fuck you that's why/suffering brings people closer to God".
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Civilisation sounds Hella fragile and weak.
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I’m trying to come up with a witty reply, but my brain is stuck on trying to process what malfunction is supposed to mean.
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Why don't some women do this and create their own civilisation? China has matriarchal tribes. With all the liberty, why isn't it attempted somewhere?
edit: added the some
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Because women are not a homogenous group that all care about the same things, all share the same vision, and are all willing to destroy their lives and the lives of the men and boys they care about for a potential chance that maybe somehow sometime in some unspecified future things can get better.
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What do you mean? Women regularly do this, they have women spaces for fitness, medicine, women homeless shelters. There are also women communities in several states, and an international movement for this. I won't link to western ones because of the danger it could bring them (too many violent men on Lemmy) but here's a modern one in Africa:
So yeah, they have been. It does tend to get immediately attacked by men though (hence why I won't link any).
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Weird flex if you ask me. Doesn’t that just prove the guy right?
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It's so fucking gross to see a radical Christianist take an idea that's fundamentally good - a loving spouse, a home of one's own, a future generation to inherit your good works and your hopes for a better world - and turn it into this degraded consumerist commodity.
Who wouldn't want to tear up a system that corrupts an idealized existence into a layer of hell, because he can't stand the idea of his partner enjoying any amount of autonomy?
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How does he turn marriage into a commodity? It’s not like he’s running a tradwife store where you can just pick docile, fully trained housewife off the shelf, is he?
All he’s saying is that marriage and having children can provide the sort of structure and meaning in life that many people seem to be lacking these days.
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