When The Threadverse Catches You Using Discord

Yeah, and in terms of usability Discord alternatives are really quite substantially behind Discord in terms of functions.

I don't think the same is with Reddit and Lemmy/Piefed. The distance is not so vast.

IMO that's the very reason why the FSF failed to gain significant traction over the years. Using a 100% libre device is HARD, even if you really want to. But yeah, gatekeeping is never gonna be helpful to push people towards better habits...

However, I would politely disagree with the "best tool for the job" argument. I believe that FLOSS software is an inherent quality, and that some degree of trade-off is acceptable, and even needed if we want to further promote it. Like, is Darktable worst than Lightroom? Sure, but it's an awesome piece of software with minimal trade-offs for most people, so I think it's still meaningful to promote it above a potentially better software for the job, feature-wise but that requires to give up all freedom to Adobe.

Eventually that limit of acceptable trade-off is matter of personal choice, and again, it sound silly to gate-keep people on the Fediverse for that...

The principle of copyleft is that you can't encourage a free environment without some level of militantism. If you accept user hostile software like Steam alongside copyleft applications, then you're fighting on the side of that hostility, on the side of theft and oppression.

Many newer popular FOSS softwares advocates stronger for libertarianism than collective protection, but it's the strictly libre software that has been the backbone historically.

Users benefit from software, not from other users. Non-FOSS software already exists, and would exist without libre initiatives.

Do you think more users, even if apolitical or incidental will best increase the amount of quality FOSS software being written in the long run, or a smaller but principled and politically motivated user base? Will no-strings free-to-use softwares encourage more new FOSS software or a treasure trove of existing quality libraries that can only be used if you agree to stop oppressing the user?

If we use Valve as a case-study, then they have taken freely available software and created a product out of it. They have contributed back to that software, and because of their contribution Windows-emulation is now better for FOSS users. But they haven't made any of their previous products less oppressive. They created a Linux-product to escape Microsoft's power over them, and their business is charging rent from all game developers. Compared to almost anyone else, they have very little to loose by making their products user respecting and FOSS. They didn't chose to do this. Would they have had, if the work they appropriated to create the Steamdeck software had even more militant terms of use?

Well ummm.... normies ruin everything.

Lol, actually rejected by the community.

It can catch you off-guard with how some people can react towards a certain topic. I would be in big trouble if I said I think self-hosting is a lot of work. Then there's users from instances with unique rules enforcing them in neutral spaces. I was told by a Reddthat user to not post too many articles at a time. They have a 5 article limit rule per community a day.

Dbzer0 is pro ai

Obviously a personal choice, so noone should be giving you shit about it, but I moved all the people I want to talk to onto Deltachat/Signal/SMS (in order of my preference), that works perfectly fine and I havn't found someone who is opposed to all of those options.

I deleted my Facebook account when they said they were going to stop fact checking. I just made a post telling anyone who wanted to stay in touch to text me, gave them a week, then deleted the account. I've also been more politically active since leaving Facebook than I ever was before, as most major movements these days are using email mailing lists instead of social media groups.

I'm not going to say you have to delete Facebook or anything, but like, this sounds more like excuses than anything else to me. I have friends who still have Facebook who only keep it purely because they originally signed up for various apps and shit using their facebook account, and so they don't want to lose access to those things if they delete the Facebook account, and they are honest about it. I don't see them going around telling people like me that it is unreasonable to delete your Facebook account.

Also, it is 100% a personal decision to not use social media. You do not Need to be on social media. You don't need to be here, or on Instagram, or Bluesky, or anywhere else. You Do need real life connections and interactions. If you don't want to give up Facebook, fine, but don't act like it is an impossibility to make that choice, just don't make excuses man.

It’s literally not possible to make the decision unilaterally

Sentiments that would be completely incomprehensible 20 years ago.

If Facebook is so central to your life... Not sure what to tell you. I got banned from FB for posting that fake nude of trump and it's the biggest favor they did me. So glad to be away from that garbage fire.

Matrix here too. I can't (and don't) force others to not use Discord but for the things I set up I can choose Matrix instead.

There's a critical need for more public servers than just matrix dot org though.

no but fr. we need a better alternate than the matrix and XMPP protocol, theyre both too buggy. I use them but fuck its annoying sometimes

Does anybody else? I've never been to Discord on purpose, but that's the trick with digital oligopolies, I don't get a choice in the matter. I don't need an app to talk to myself, but to talk to the people I need to talk to on Discord I need Discord.

FOSS = Free and Open Source Software. Open source means the source code of a program is available for anyone to view, and free (as in freedom) means the community can contribute to it (this is an oversimplification). FOSS software, like Lemmy, is not owned by a company and as such the software is (usually) developed for the benefit of everything rather than for maximum profit.

Free open source software

The future! (for nerds only)

The issue is that so many amazing groups are using it. I wish they would use matrix/xmpp instead.

It's not like there's any actual alternative with decent UI that doesn't require self hosting or a subscription.

Let me be the first one. It has nothing to do with FOSS or decentralization, I just think it's a shit software.