What are the biases of Lemmy?

"AI bad" overrides "Piracy ok", though. I've seen threads in the main piracy community where the general consensus seemed to be that copyright should be used as a weapon against AI.

• Piracy ok

I'm not sure how true that is for the largest instance (lemmy.world) but apart from that it seems quite on point

I think what muddles the water on the "Leftwing" character of Lemmy is that there are two kinds here: those whose personal Principles (mainly around the importance reducing the suffering and increasing the happiness of others, rather than just themselves) which lead them to support leftwing policies and those support Political forces or ideologies which are deemed Leftwing, and hence see themselves as Leftwing.

IMHO it's last group that explains in Lemmy things like authoritarian leftwingers (i.e. tankies) and people who think they're leftwingers because they tribalistically support certain mainstream political parties who claim to be Left but are at best moral liberal and even that second to their very rightwing broader stand on general Equality and quality of life for the many (such as the US Democrats, UK Labour, German SPD and so on).

My impression is that Lemmy has a much higher proportion of Principled Left-wingers than the wider society.

This is probably why if you're not in an instance that blocks the tankie instances, in between the tankies, the principled types and the mainstream "leftwing" party tribalists it almost feels like there are 3 kinds of "Left" in Lemmy.

Yeah, I enjoyed that about reddit at that ave too. As an isolated teen it's all I had

16 atm.

Nobody* is talking about machine learning when they say “AI” these days. They mean LLMs and generative AI and especially the way it is being forced into everything and destroying the environment to do so.

not literally; there is certainly at least one person out there who objects to machine learning, deep learning, or whatever you want to call it. However this is not the general sentiment.

I think the biggest issues Lemmy has with it, which are valid, boil down to environmental impact, AI being used to replace working class people instead of making their lives better, and the way it’s being used to erase art as a part of human culture. If those three things weren’t an issue I’d be less wary of AI.

Biases are indeed usually uninformed and ridiculous.

Anti ai nowadays almost exclusively means the over insertion of llms into ordinary life and/or the over trust of a blackbox computer program. People aren’t throwing hands because of alphafold as much as they are a prime minister using a language model to make policy decisions

Oh are those the ones being shoved into all our orifices?

At this point I'd believe AGI already exists and "AI Slop" is just a psy-opp.

Like how do people reconcile recognizing how AI is negatively effecting society but denying that it could get exponentially more harmful?

AI-agents (not AGI) will change cyberwarfare like nuclear weapons changed convetional warfare.

Meanwhile true AGI almost certainly presents an existential threat to humanity. If for no other reason than our own laziness.

I think it's both. Some people dislike all AI because of generative AI like LLM's, but many people seem to care about making the distinction between generative AI and traditional ML.

Are people anti non-generative AI? Or is broader AI just getting dragged in to the justified anti genAI sentiment?

I formed this question to myself and was about to post it, but then I remembered Lemmy also hates self-driving cars which are likely Convolutional Neural Networks (CNN) or Recurrent Nerual Networks (RNN) which are not part of Generative AI at all.

It’s a spectrum so there are two extremes, you’re either at one extreme the 100% pure male or the other the 100% pure female. There can only be one person at either end. Therefore unless you, particularly, are one of the extremes (and let’s be honest those two people have no clue it’s them) you are on the spectrum somewhere in between. Meaning you are a tiny bit trans.

Unfortunately it’s just harder to be a Star Wars fan since Disney bought it.

Paramount is trying very hard to create the same difficulty to love Star Trek with their Section 31 movie.

As opposed to the easy time to be a fan, like during the "Meesa propose..." speech.

Disney ruined it.

As an avid fan of both since I was a kid, I don't think these two are really at odds with each other.

I’m more a The Expanse type of person

So say we all! Oh wait, that's a different one too...

Touché! I would argue 'Gate has better representation on Lemmy than 'Wars. "Would you not agree, Daniel Jackson?" /Teal'c

Probably not big enough fan base as it's quite niche, only ever was on Syfy and usually on cable. Trek and wars had more lore and cinema.

The chemicals in the protocols are turning the nerds gay

Woke and DEI, is why. Now put the damn socks on and get to work. Once Arch is installed, you may indulge in one Blåhaj

Trans people are almost attacked or banned all other platforms or at least astroturfed, it does make sense

That's mostly .ml users not most of Lemmy and none of PieFed

Wait til they hear the CCP is more capitalist than actually communist, of course they don't read up on history

I've seen both.

No, we're left, please pay attention 🙃

Nah, you are speaking sense. I think Lemmy was really pitched as a Reddit alternative (or at least that was my experience)and it makes sense that the first flood of people who got excited about that are people who miss how Reddit used to feel.

I'm on .world, and I'd happily throw all the billionaires into an industrial shredder.

This brings up another facet: when it comes to ideological biases it's all subjective.

I consider lemmy.world slightly left of center overall, but again with important caveats that some communities within it are pretty left wing and some are pretty right wing. But maybe to someone pretty far on the left of the political spectrum the instance seems very right wing, while to someone pretty far to the right it seems like almost everyone are 'rabid pinko commies'.

Basically, things are more complicated than they may look.

We certainly do have our fair share of Zionist scumbags.

I've been on .world for over a year now and haven't really seen anything I'd call blatantly right-wing. But if this is right wing and the rest of lemmy is even more leftist, I'll gladly join the rest of yas elsewhere.

I wouldn't put it that far, they are closer to reddit

R/ conservative is the most obvious one, where they completely suppressed the Epstein files discussion

an example of a communist government of a major country that hasn’t devolved quickly into a dictatorship

I'm not feeling rage or hysteria, but I find a number of issues with this "test" that could easily cause frustration with anyone who has major criticisms of capitalism. My response is long not because of some irrational anger, but because things are complex and nuanced.

You consider yourself to be "fairly progressive"? I'm going to give you an analogy. It's not great, but it hits on a few major issues relevant to your "test". Imagine a MAGA fan asked you in 2026 to "name a thriving woke government agency" or "a government agency that still advocates for DEI" to make a point about your ideals. How does that sound to you?

First, you'd like argue that the term "woke" and "DEI" means different things to different people. That the term has been transformed into some deranged negatively charged approximation used as almost a slur colloquially. The same is true for "communist/ism" and "socialist/ism". The current US "powers that be" have taken ownership of terms originally used by progressives. Woke was an "eyes open" state of awareness of the systemic racism baked into society. Now it is often considered "naively believing that forced equality makes things better". DEI was an attempt to correct these systemic issues by encouraging or even enforcing diversity in groups of people who make decisions and influence decisions. Now it, and I'd argue "Affirmative Action" as well, is starting to mean a movement to "give power/opportunity to people because they are minorities whether or not they are sufficiently qualified". Understand, I'm not in agreement with the transformation of these terms or the sentiment of the new "meanings" but I see them being used in the US in this manner more often. This makes every conversation confusing if you want to have a legitimate discussion of the ideas. It doesn't help that the terms socialism and communism were never concrete terms to begin with.

Second, you'd be aware that there is literally a powerful force actively attempting to purge the original concepts of "woke" and "DEI" from government agencies. The current administration is working very hard to sabotage any agencies that recognize inequality or try to diversify. The administration has likely broken the law in its efforts to oust any agency leadership who promote these concepts. The administration wants to make the lives of any workers who agree with those concepts very difficult. Any agencies that are based on those core concepts are being spun down or turned into shells that somehow still have a name that implies they haven't changed but in reality their leadership is working to ensure that the agency now serves the opposite function.

That's what it is like being openly socialist or communist in today's world. Everything bad is "socialist" or "communist" - it has been since the revolution in Russia. People have a knee jerk reaction on hearing those words. It's strongly associated with North Korea, Stalin, and the CCP. Endless stories of violent authoritarianism, surveillance states, and the suppression of free speech. Tons of media - Animal Farm, 1984. As an aside, consider the violent suppression of climate or pro Palestine protesters, or the use of surveillance technology to spy on citizens... in capitalist nations.

Back to my point - if you are advocating for socialism, the West will work diligently to prop up existing capitalist leadership to prevent your success, possibly even help them rig elections. Propaganda will be spread among your population. If you manage to get elected, expect to be labeled extremist or even terrorist. Expect embargos, sanctions, and other economic warfare. Expect actual terrorists funded by the West to attempt to sabotage your nation. Expect or attempt to perform coups. Lobbyists would be throwing money you desperately need at your nation if it would just capitulate. Yes, even citizens might work against you because they are quite wealthy and powerful and your going to upset that. Or maybe honest citizens who've heard capitalism is great and socialism is bad and they don't want to live in a bad nation. What's the most effect method to survive a situation like that? You are under siege, paranoid, distrustful, woefully outmatched. Use your authority to defend your ideals and your hold on the government, sell out and become corrupt, or get squeezed out by a political opponent (or ally, trust noone) that is working for and funded by the West looking to restore their influence over your nation. Now you have a dictatorship.

If they ever picked up or even looked history on communism, they would actually won't advocate for it

They still put out title after title of quality games.

Me doubt

The secret is that it doesn't matter all that much beyond who that instance is federated with. Any of the popular ones will feel similar from the get-go and only more and more so as time goes on.

Techy bias and recruiting from Redditors in the first place

I think that comes with the techy side of lemmy

That's kinda what I've always figured.

Even posting this, I'm a bit hesitant.

Yeah, honestly surprised I haven't been hounded for even suggesting it.

Apparently grouped...no, they are one in the same. what notmal group drives massive trucks and ships in rednecks to take over a city and harass them..

Hate to break it to you, nothing about politics is ”normal”.

The same argument can be made against the liberal government, they’re controlling people’s speech and when people don’t agree they get nothing but hate spouted at them.

what group only spouts shit about how much Canada sucks

If you can site sources that would be great, not once have I heard any of Canada's political parties say they hate Canada.

and uses nonstop slogans to 'win votes'...

You’re kidding right? Every politician does this, it doesn’t matter if it’s left or right they all do it.

there's many MANY reasons why they are all one in the same but your head is so far up the ass of propaganda that you can't even think straight. you're a useless moderator who I bet bans people when you disagree who have never even once posted in your little gun club. you're useless

Not once have I insulted you, nor disrespected you so I don’t understand why all the anger. My hobby is directly affected by the current government’s political standings and I’m doing my part to educate folks who not once seen, heard or held a firearm in this country.

If you want to talk about brainwashing take a close look at PolySeSouvient claiming law abiding firearms owners are the reason for the uptick in firearm related crime, not criminals, people who apply to the RCMP and get approved for firearms licenses are apparently the problem.

If you haven’t noticed by now, Trudeau has banned a lot of firearms but yet firearm related crime is still rising, coincidence?