Truck cruelty
Truck cruelty
Truck cruelty
I honestly can't help but laugh at these trucks...
Especially when you see the 5'6 45 year old struggling to climb back in at a gas station after leaving his AC office drone job.
They really think their big truck makes them a big man.
All it does is scream to everyone else that you're insecure in your own masculinity and spent ~80k and a shit ton of gas money to try and compensate.
What gets me is that they are always fucking spotless. My '09 Ranger is all dirty, scratched up, with various straps and ropes in the bed.
God forbid they use their truck like a truck.
BRO! I worked for a paving company years back and the business manager had this raised modified to all hell f350 (trash). He'd get it washed every week, rarely used it for actual work other than dragging a trailer and it CONSTANTLY broke down. Damn thing was impossible to load anything but buckets cuz the bed was as high as my friggin nipples (lol).
Bonus Question: Guess how tall he was
I recently lost my '05 f150 that I used for work to frame rot, so I got a '17. I've put two holes in the bed, through the bed liner, and I haven't even been treating it that bad. It's almost as though Ford doesn't want you to use it for work harder than carrying your yeti between kids baseball games.
My dad would always use the profits from growing tobacco on a new truck every other year...
One year he bought a new truck while we were actively putting the crop in a barn.
Truck was less than 48 hrs old and he was trying to pull a fully loaded wagon across a creek to get to a barn.
With brand new wet tires, he couldn't get out of the creek. So at like 11 years old I got to watch him put a brand new truck sideways into a tree because he was too proud to unhook and let someone else pull the wagon thru the creek. But he still got it in the barn.
He wasn't even that pissed, because the only reason to buy a truck, was to use it for actual truck shit.
Hell, I probably use my car more than those people. Especially after it got hail damage, ALL illusions of "not scratching it" went out the window.
I'm not driving business clients around; my car is a tool to help me get shit done, especially when I traveled for work
I would love to have a truck (because strapping a mattress to the roof of your car isn't the best), but I make what I got work lol
Honestly it's pretty embarrassing for 6'1 55 year old too.
Western masculinity can be so fragile that some think consumerism is the only out of it.
Basically if you're using a pickup as a commuter vehicle..you probably don't make good life choices.
Basically if you're using a pickup as a commuter vehicle.
I use my truck as a truck, but it’s the only vehicle I own; with the prices of cars AND insurance AND put food on the table… forgettaboutit 🤌
.you probably don't make good life choices.
Hey! That’s beside the point! 😮💨 😔
Oh for sure.
I played sports in college way back in the day, and still stay up with a lot of my old teammates. Most of us are huge, but I still give shit to every one of them that have giant trucks.
But it's still funnier when the driver of a giant truck struggles to get in/out of it and can barely see over their own steering wheel. At a certain height interior space does become a factor, but as long as you "gangster lean" you can still fit in a normal vehicle.
But I grew up on an actual farm, I've been making fun of oversized trucks since my cousin jacked his truck up so high it couldn't pull a wagon anymore. And that was back when the small truck in OPs post was sold new.
Basically if you're using a pickup as a commuter vehicle..you probably don't make good life choices.
That is false for nearly everyone. Unless you are driving double the miles of an average person, the costs of a second car that is practical for 99% of your needs and a truck for that last 1% is higher than the costs of just driving the truck for everything. You have to make payments and taxes on the truck even when it sits in the driveway. You might get a small insurance discount for a truck you rarely drive, but your insurance on two vehicles is higher than just one.
People say "just rent a truck", but every time I look into that I discover rental trucks come with a lot of restrictions such that you can't use them as a truck (I expect a truck used as a truck to get paint scratches). And the cost is so high that it won't take many rentals to making having a truck the cheaper option (getting right of the car in exchange).
Depends on the pickup these days. There are several small options available now.
I lived in the same apartment complex as a guy who had one of these giant trucks. He was a short guy, had a sales job which provided him a company car but still decided that he would spend more on his car loan than he did on rent just to have this to ride in on the weekends. He was scrimping pennies on everything else just to afford that terrible decision.
scrimping pennies on everything else
I'd get that if he'd bought an RV, at least he could live in it.
The smaller one has a bigger bed 🤦
Lol and easier to load
My biggest gripe with modern trucks really. Have fun putting that new refrigerator you needed in there and then getting it out once you're home, and God forbid you put a toolbox behind the cab, you're climbing into that bed to get every little thing you didn't think you'd need because you can't just get it by reaching over the side.
There is a four door version of the front truck with a similar sized bed.
Also, you could probably put three of the front truck on a car trailer and tow it with the back one.
Bigger one also has 5 seats.
If you need 5 seats get a car.
That's fake. There's way too much bed space.
Peak Chevy truck grill
the one on the right
is also the one on the left... 😂
the text is actually from a pre-existing post
God I miss small trucks. So much. So so much.
Right? All it needs to do is carry a stack of 4x8 plywood and a bunch of 2x4s, or the entire contents of a two-room apartment -- something a 1980's "mini" pickup like the Ford Ranger or Chevy S10 could easily handle.
The bed is a little narrow for 4x8' sheets of material on a 90s Ranger. There's only about 41" between the wheel arches and the opening in the bed itself above the arches is about 44" which is not quite enough. (It's wider in the gap above the arches but before the top lip of the bed, but you'll never get anything into that space that can't be disassembled or moved with a shovel...) You could stand your material up on edge, but don't try that with drywall. 48x40" pallets are no problem, though. Or at least one of them at a time. It'll slide right in there provided if and only if you orient it with the skinny dimension between the arches. Ditto with 2x4s if you want to leave the tailgate up. Otherwise your strap game had better be strong because the standard model has a 6' bed and the longer 7' bed is both rare and also not quite long enough. I used to drive a 90s Ranger for work and believe me, I crammed, or tried to cram, every type of thing you can think of into the back of it at some point or another. You can get a lot done with one but sheet goods are their downfall.
The 8' bed work trucks of the era could do what you're describing perfectly, and do so better than today's "full size" trucks while maintaining a smaller footprint on the pavement. That, and you can actually see out of the goddamned windows. I have a 90s Silverado in fleet truck spec, crank windows and a single cab with an 8' bed. I can indeed stack 4x8' drywall or ply neatly between the wheel arches and even close the tailgate on it. Much to the envy of my coworkers, who still pathologically own dinkum 6' bed crew cab so-called trucks that they can't fit anything into the back of, and then destroy the back seats "ThAt tHeY ToTaLlY NeEd bEcAuSe oF ReAsOnS" by jamming them full of tools and dirty materials anyway, so the whole thing is pointless. At that rate you may as well just get a van and call it a day.
I want a 2 door version of the Telos Truck. Less screens more physical buttons. It's the length of a mini cooper, and can fit a 4x8 sheet of plywood in the back. Was hoping it would launch for cheaper but without the cash back and crap this administration has canceled it will likely be a 42-45k sticker price. Which is to high.
https://publications.lawschool.cornell.edu/jlpp/2024/11/25/the-unchecked-rise-of-trucks-and-suvs-in-america/ if you want to see the "breeders" of that monstrosity. Basically the result of a semantics loophole game in federal regulations. This is why the smaller Ford Ranger is a "European Model" only.
Pictured: a pickup truck in front of a cope wagon.
Every time I see a complaint about truck sizes, I make it a point to share this video explaining how it's actually the EPA's fault trucks have gotten so big.
how it’s actually the EPA’s fault trucks have gotten so big.
🤨
No, the corporation's horrible behaviour is the fault of the regulators & regulations.
It may not be only the EPA's fault, but an unintended consequences of the CAFE standards and how they change over time is a perverse incentive to increase wheelbase and track, lowering the fuel efficiency instead of raising it.
If you haven't yet, watch the video. It does a good job explaining why you can't make the Chevy S10 we used to see all over the place in the 90s without a big penalty that would make it too expensive.
Trucks, cars, all of it. I praise Mazda for keeping the Miata/MX-5 small when almost nobody else has.
if only they didn't give it headlights that blind people
nearly drove into one last night because it was coming up a small hill in front of me in my neighbourhood (on a curve) and I drifted left as I slowed down to ensure I didn't hit the pedestrians to my right. couldn't see a fucking thing because of its 'lowbeams'
Or this one.
Same bed size, probably same payload capacity, and you can actually grab something out of the bed on the old truck without needing a stepladder. Really the only thing that the new truck does better is towing, simply due to added engine power and bigger breaks.
That new truck is a F250 which can handle a lot more weight in the bed than the small truck. It wasn't much smaller of a truck 40 years ago.
I don't know what the old one was, but let's say it was something like the Ford Courier from the 1970s. That pickup could take a load of 1,400 lb (635 kg). I don't know how often someone would need to load more than 600 kg into their truck, and that's with the curb weight of 2500 lbs or about 1100 kg. A modern F-250 has a curb weight that's more than double the Courier at about 6300 lbs or 2850 kg. It can carry 5000 lbs, (2270 kg) but again, how often is that needed?
I can understand buying a big truck if you're towing heavy things, but for loading up the bed with stuff, I wonder how often someone would get to 600 kg and say "I have lots of space remaining, but dang it, I've reached the weight limit!"
Every time this gets posted I can't help but think what would happen if you loaded up the little guy with comparable weights. I get it, full sized pickups aren't for everyone but come on, they aren't even close in payload capacity unless you're hauling packing peanuts. Check it out.
Just the beds here. Not getting into the motor, transmission, suspension, etc.
A modern Toyota Tacoma long bed. Bed Length: 73.5 inches Width at Tailgate: 53 inches Depth: 20.2 inches Max Towing Capacity: 6500lbs
GMC 2500 HD Denali (my pickup) Bed Length: 82.5 inches Width at Tailgate: 71.4 inches Depth: 22.4 inches Max Towing Capacity: 15,000 lbs
With a full sized pickup you can stack a pallet of lumber flat. Lumber is 8ft standard length. Whole sheets of plywood and drywall are 4ft x 8ft. A 12' roll of carpet sits on a roof rack without overhanging the front or back. There is just no comparing the two, they are made for completely different purposes.
My point is the full sized pickups have a place. I used to install carpet and hard floors. Now I tow an RV and need the higher clearance for the locations I visit. For little miss molly home maker or office job joe, full sized pickups are a ridiculous choice but don't judge if you don't know. Camping in remote locations isn't only for the affluent. Not everyone can afford a commuter vehicle in addition to their fun vehicle. They have to make a choice and drive what they own.
The bigger truck can move the weight, sure, but that aluminum bed isn't going to survive very long. The old design is easier to load and will last longer. And, yes, has more room for the bulkier stuff.
They are bloated for no reason is my problem with them. I have an older chevy 3/4 ton for hauling our camper, boat, and the shit for renovating our fixer upper. The capability of a modern 3/4 ton is like 50% more at most, yet it's like 3 feet taller for no reason. I can still haul 3k+ lbs and tow 12k, but I can still see over the hood with very little issue.
A modern half ton is bigger than my 2001 3/4 ton truck. The bloat is real.
And the testicles hang useless from its license plate. They snipped the wrong bits. Poor things...
Them bumpers don't line up and the wheel well of the "modern" one is taller than the hood and bed.
I plan to buy another truck when the time is right. I would be looking for a high towing capacity, heavy duty drivetrain & leaf springs etc, 4WD, off road suspension and at least a 6.5" bed, a long bed would be fine too. But I plan on buying a single cab work truck, not a crew or family hauler (if they still make single cab trucks at the time).
I bought my current SUV for my wife but she had to stop driving it because of physical problems so I've made it kinda suit my needs with a bunch of modifications and upgrades. But I really need a truck for what I use it for.
The small truck at the front isn't for you then, they didn't have a great tow rating.
At my job, I load full pallets of concrete, drywall, plywood, etc, into customer trucks all day every day.
The bigger the truck, the more likely the customer is going to be a pain in the ass. Wishy washy about how much load they can carry, and crying up a storm if you touch the tailgate.
Smaller truck? Load up and go, They'll probably be back for more in a few hours too.
I like to tell people that if their truck can't handle the load, then they paid too much for the truck.
Also also, bigger trucks tend to be parked like douchbaggs more often than smaller trucks, just blocking the way for everyone.
I like to tell people that if their truck can't handle the load, then they paid too much for the truck.
"If your bullet is too small for the deer, you paid too much for the gun."
"Say less, I should hunt squirrel and rabbit with a .30-.30."
"If you can't take all the groceries inside in one trip, you paid too much for the groceries."
"Alright well yeah but that's just because eggs cost $100. Two trips is ok."
I don’t want to disrupt the circle jerk but those are two different models so this is not an apples to apples comparison. This is like comparing someone’s Subaru Outback to a Cadillac Escalade. Those are both SUVs but the Escalade is much bigger than the Outback. I’m not saying that trucks haven’t become giant monstrosities in recent history but this is a misleading post. If you compare a Ford Ranger or Tacoma from 20 years ago, it has gotten larger but it’s still a modest sized pickup truck in 2025.
I am a contractor and drive a pick up for work, it’s big and dumb.
Of course those are 2 different models? How does that make this insanity any less fitting?
I mean, sure, comparing the smallest (or 5th percentile), median and largest (95th) truck of one time to those of another time would be more truthful etc. But this is not a quantitative study, it is a meme, and it gets the point across perfectly.
He has a point, though, just not articulated as well as it could be. Someone is being a bit cheeky with this image, because those are two different classes of trucks, not just different models.
The one in front I believe is a 2nd gen (1998-2000) Toyota Tacoma which is a classed as a compact pickup. The one in the rear is a Ford F-250 Super Duty which isn't even meant to be their consumer pickup truck; it's a very definitely classed as a full sized pickup with its own heavy duty chassis and isn't even based on the F-150 anymore. Everyone and their dog does indeed drive an F-150 but not as many people are just running around in an F-250 just for the hell of it.
A less disingenuous comparison would be the old Tacoma in the front and a current Tacoma in rear. Trying to compare old and new Super Duties would probably be futile; those have always been huge.
Describing one of these as "on the right" is a wild choice.
What they have told us is true ... from a certain point of view.
Technically true is certainly a form of true.
I don't think I'd call that progress.
I think in this context it's talking about "industry progress" which just means "whatever path the industry has taken"
It's evolving, but backwards
Evolution doesn't have a direction. Being big is helping these trucks breed faster, so they're becoming more prevalent.
I really don't understand the appeal of cars of that size...
I had a co-worker who got an oversized and lifted monster of a pickup, and I asked him what he's compensating for. He replied "my height" - he was a short but good natured guy, we had a good laugh.
Honestly, I do.
When I drive my sensible sedan I like to see a few cars in front of me to be able to respond better to hazards, not just some GMC's ass directly in front of me. I allow proper following distance, but with a...idk about majority, but damn it's a lot of those trucks around me, I can't see around unless I'm unreasonably far back. And electrician vans etc. Being put at an even field butt-to-ground speaking makes it easier to see around them and even over sedans. And in this category, the lights from even other sedans are in my eyes and I have a severe astigmatism in both eyes, getting above to the point where lights aren't in my eyes is honestly safer for everyone since car manufacturers refuse to quit with the blinding white lights.
What's more, sometimes I have to move a chair or bedframe etc that doesn't fit in my car, and I have to call a guy I know with a truck. If I did get one, not only could I quit bothering him, I could help others too. I like helping my friends, so I see this as a positive.
And then there's shit I don't need but like I'm not every person on earth and others have different needs. Towing boats and trailers and shit, my boss tows 20-30' trailers all the time with his, y'know? I don't need one that can do that, but others do.
I mean I'm not likely to get one anytime soon lol, and even if I did it wouldn't be like some extended cab dually, but I can understand the appeal at least.
Former mechanic here, the commenter isn't entirely wrong either, saw a lot more cooling issues on newer trucks, anecdotally of course.
My condo building can’t even feet these fuckers in our parking spots. We’ve had to ban certain residents from parking here because of those trucks
There's also double the seating in the one at the rear. The beds looks about the same size, but if the cabs had the same seating the primary difference would be the height.
But then it wouldn't be as reaction inducing.
inb4 fuck cars and such
More seating isn't an excuse - it's just a symptom of the problem.
Trucks were supposed to be practical work vehicles, but they've just become glorified masculine SUVs.
40 years ago it was common to put 5-6 people into the cab of the smaller truck. It wasn't comfortable for anyone but it was done. Worse however it was not safe for anyone (not enough seat belts) and so people died. Often those people were kids who should be in car seats, but instead were sitting on laps. If the weather wasn't too bad they would put some of those people in the bed of the truck (which could fit 15) instead of the cab.
I'm saying if both vehicles bad the same number of seats, the length would be about the same.
That doesn't mean the height is justified, but it would be much more helpful to compare vehicles with the same utility from back then and today.
This means you could probably call the Slate the retro pug of trucks.
Are the truck beds the same size?
I guess. But what's important is what they both will contain during their lifetime: nothing, or a few grocery bags.
Bigger roads bigger trucks
Ahh it is so refreshing to know that Reddit’s hate boner for pickup trucks has spilled over into Lemmy.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Damaging the health and safety of the people around you to stroke your own ego is pretty much always a dick move.