Growing a personality

But I do think our standards have been lowered to the point where “not a nazi shitbag” is going to put him in the upper echelon.

I agree, but in many places lesser evil is the best we can do. I think if one lives in a red state then we need to vote as much as we can to minimize harm. If we live in a blue state we need to vote for the most progressive dem in primaries to start the shift away from corporate dems. In pretty much every election from the last 30 years non voting has been the biggest voter block.

Protesting is important too, but we need to follow up the energy and vote as well. Otherwise we are saying that we care a lot about something, but not enough to go all the way with our complaint.

Pete isnt a low standard. Hes would be a good candidate in pretty much any country.

All of politics is a compromise. You can't actually accomplish anything if you have a dogmatic approach to it. That's why Sanders, who I very nearly wholeheartedly support, is so rarely able to actually get anything done. And bless him for it!, he's the moral compass we need! But to get things done, politicians need to make deals, sometimes with shitty people.

I don't like everything that Buttigieg represents. But I like him a lot more than Newsom, who throws trans people under the buss without provocation. I certainly like him more than Joe Walsh, the 'former' (?) Tea Party conservative that now claims to be a Democrat.

Add that he enabled the Biden disaster to the list. He was supposedly his mock debate partner and didn't raise any red flags about Biden's mental health. Seriously, fuck that guy.

Oh nooooo, he's not perfect! Let's elect trump again.

In contrast, I see folks like Sanders and AOC as real agents of change.

Are you aware that an entire nation of people other than you exist and that many of them are not down with candidates as progressive as Sanders and AOC?

Are you going to live the rest of your life crying about Sanders being cheated, or are you going to accept that there simply weren't enough Americans out there comfortable with his kind of progressive stances to make him president?

bought in exchange for political capital

That's a very uncharitable assumption of his motivations.

Dropping out of an (FPTP) primary is like awkward manual runoff voting. Once you clearly aren't winning, you drop out so those votes can flow to the next preferred candidate.

People voting for Buttigieg switched to Biden because he was the most similar candidate. Of course Buttigieg would support the candidate that best matches his policy preferences -- and the preferences of voters.

Obama was the same kind of character, and Trump was the result.

Lol. Ok.

Let's blame Obama for Trump. We already blame him for everything else.

And he's still a saint compared to 99% of our politicians.

Know why liberals are losing? Because we like to find 1 thing we don't like about a candidate and blow it the fuck up and make them unelectable. Then the fascist far right candidate waltzes into the White House.

He probably understands what you don't. That going hard left in America right now is how you lose.

We went with a hard right felon rapist traitor instead of centrists Biden or Harris. What makes you think anyone further to the left stands a chance in America?

Try existing in reality. The reality is hard left is not what most Americans are comfortable with. We have to make our way there. Not magically teleport there.

Care to explain or are you just a bridge troll?

Guy is incredibly intelligent. Calm. Collected. Fair. He easily handles Fox News pundits while trying to explain things in a way even Fox viewers can understand. Served in the military. Became a mayor before getting into national politics. Got pretty far into the primary process.

I'll wait for your response.

You gonna cry about Bernie all your life or move on and do something productive?

Dumb comment alert!!!!

Yeah, we should elect reality TV personalities instead. That works out well.

We really need a c/menandfemale here on lemmy