128 Democrats join House Republicans to block AOC, Al Green bid to impeach Trump
128 Democrats join House Republicans to block AOC, Al Green bid to impeach Trump
Useless. Time for the Social Democrats to form their own party.
Here is the full list of Democrats that voted to table the articles of impeachment.
Find yours, call them, and let them know they've failed to represent the people interests.
Ro Khanna doing his standard move of cycling back and forth between pretending to be a progressive and just being utterly spineless.
I truly hope "refused to impeach President Trump" becomes a purity test in the next primary. That's a lot of incumbents to kick to the curb, but with this vote it's well warranted.
On the other hand, if they did vote for impeachment, call them and tell them to keep up the good fight.
My guy is on the list, so he'll be getting a call from me today. He's useless anyway. I wish he'd get primaried by a tough progressive.
And then send them out to pasture like Andrew Cuomo.
It can be done. Do it enough, and you'll have a party that actually represents the people.
Yup, that's what democracy is supposed to be all about giving engaged citizens the tools to change the system to reflect their values!
Also, if your rep is not on the list, call their office and express your appreciation that they voted to move forward with impeachment.
Sarah McBride voted against the measure that may save her life some day. Way to once again throw trans people under the bus.
Remember these cowards names when they are asking for our votes.
And if they pass a primary vote for them anywars, because they're still better than any GOP even if they didn't hold a third purely symbolic impeachment.
Remember these coward votes when people say Democrats aren't aiding Republicans for the same end goals.
I wish the office came with a mandate that they'd personally have to field constituent calls 4 hours a week.
But like so much else, they aren't going to legislate accountability for themselves.
None from Wisconsin, wtf California?
Thank you. One of my representatives, Gabe Vasquez, is on the list and I messaged him. Funny that he put out a press release condemning the actions of bombing Iran but doesn't want to support impeachment. What a turd.
Was surprised WV wasn't on the list, then realized why and grew even more depressed.
How is this both senators and House of Representatives?
Well, I've just sent emails to the representatives that I could. Probably half of the ones from my state prevented emails from going out because my address didn't fall in their district.
I looked up the ones in my state, and I'm just gobsmacked at how fucking ugly the districts are. I know gerrymandering is bad, but when I actually have to see it... /puke
Fuck Nancy Pelosi I swear to God
Reminder that you can also do this if your rep voted against tabling to express support for what they're doing and they they're representing you well.
I don't see my representative on there, thankfully.
Does anyone have a link to which Democrats voted in support of the impeachment?
This Newsweek article only shows dissenters.
Edit: found it: https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2025175
TBH they're representing my interests pretty well in this case. An impeachment trial would have just been a huge waste of time unless 20 Republican Senators joined the 47 DNC caucus to remove Trump and I can tell you right now with a 99.9% certainty that wasn't going to happen.
What the actual fuck
I mean, an Impeachment trial without any possibility of removal seems pretty pointless, yeah. It takes 67 Senators to remove. The DNC with caucus have 47. They probably don't even have enough votes to pass a simple majority purely symbolic impeachment, much less removal from office.
The Democratic party has always just been another branch of the wealthy. Neoliberalism is a cancer that really kicked into gear when Heritage Foundation-backed president Ronald Reagan came into office. Obama (I believe in his second term) said that back in the 80s, he would have been considered a moderate Republican.
Looks like there are 212 Democrat reps in the house, which puts it at a large majority which would rather “not cause a fuss” or whatever the fuck excuse they’re trying to bullshit this time.
Useless people. Worthless people.
It's not about not wanting to cause a fuss. It's just a losing impeachment that people don't want to attach their names to, probably the weakest attempt so far because so many Democrat presidents have acted in the same way. Precedent isn't nothing.
What exactly do you think the outcome would be if the house successfully initiated an impeachment?
128 Democrats join House Republicans to defend fascist dictator
But they impeached him before, so their stance is that he got better and is no longer a threat to democracy?
They just don't feel the need to hide anymore. Most of your "Democrats" are just Republicans with a different paint job.
Their stance is Trump came out of his two impeachments politically stronger than he went into them, and unless 14 20 GOP Senators decide to switch their allegiance all of a sudden the act of impeachment is practically useless.
Edit: I fucked up the math, thanks commenter
Plus since the proceedings were guaranteed to fail (even setting aside the party votes, while Trump has committed many constitutional violations, this one is shared by several of his predecessors and was an especially stupid thing to hinge an impeachment vote on - doubly so because it's not technically a violation until 60 days have passed), all they'd accomplish is burning a substantial amount of political will (something the Democratic party is severely lacking in) to... accomplish nothing but making Donald even worse? He already attacks Democratic states that have shown relatively minor opposition; if their representatives supported impeachment then life could suddenly become a lot harder for their constituents. Unless you're an accelerationist it was a bad idea all around.
(I should note I don't support this rationale - cowardly appeasement has never worked - but I can understand it, at least in theory. I'm mostly pissed that they pulled this stunt on such a flimsy pretext when there were plenty of rock-solid justifications to base an impeachment on)
"He learned his lesson" I guess
It's not about how much of a threat he is, but it's about the friends we made along the way.
Primary. Every. Single. One.
a P.E.S.O. for president Taco's followers, good pitch
Okay but if you don't remove 20 Republicans then it still accomplishes nothing. 67 Senators needed to remove Trump from office.
128 democrats are actually Republicans,
America is slowly learning both sides have the same goals.
But muh "bOtH sIdEs!"
Only because you didn't vote for them! If you had voted dir them they would have behaved totally differently!!1!
Unlike all the other times you did vote for themand they did this exact same shit. this one's different, don't be such a child. If you don't fall in line and lick the boot of the liberal co-conspirators, it will be entirely your fault when ice shows up to take you to the camps.
Edit: also mine because i snitched on you. But that's actually your fault too; HOA rules say a family living in your attic is not allowed. You need to stop justifying your rule breaking with 'fighting fascism'.
Both sides being the Right and Center-Right.
Of course the Left has no room at the table for any of this.
There is a new website tracking whether politicians will go on the record to be against bribery.
I wonder if they will note this?
I hate questions like this. Because for conservatives, taking bribes isn't an exclusionary issue. They would vote for the literal Antichrist if it meant they could oppress someone.
Sure they might care that their particular conservative representative not take bribes but if that representative took bribes but was also racist, they are going to vote for them.
It is the lowest possible bar. If anyone can’t get over that, voters should at least know.
God your country is fucked.
I don't think God wants anything to do with them tbh
"Because god" is one of the excuses these bastards use to try and excuse their shitty behavior .
They created this mess, and they should clean it up.
Pretty much. How much room you got over there?
A lot, but our own idiot overlords prevent us from letting you through
Here's the full list of House Democrats who voted to table the impeachment articles.
Pete Aguilar (California)
Gabe Amo (Rhode Island)
Jake Auchincloss (Massachusetts)
Wesley Bell (Missouri)
Ami Bera (California)
Don Beyer (Virginia)
Sanford Bishop (Georgia)
Julia Brownley (California)
Nikki Budzinski (Illinois)
Janelle Bynum (Oregon)
Salud Carbajal (California)
Andre Carson (Indiana)
Ed Case (Hawaii)
Sean Casten (Illinois)
Kathy Castor (Florida)
Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick (Florida)
Katherine Clark (Massachusetts)
Emanuel Cleaver (Missouri)
Jim Clyburn (South Carolina)
Herb Conaway (New Jersey)
Lou Correa (California)
Jim Costa (California)
Joe Courtney (Connecticut)
Angie Craig (Minnesota)
Jason Crow (Colorado)
Henry Cuellar (Texas)
Sharice Davids (Kansas)
Don Davis (North Carolina)
Madeleine Dean (Pennsylvania)
Rosa DeLauro (Connecticut)
Suzan DelBene (Washington)
Chris Deluzio (Pennsylvania)
Debbie Dingell (Michigan)
Sarah Elfreth (Maryland)
Cleo Fields (Louisiana)
Shomari Figures (Alabama)
Lizzie Fletcher (Texas)
Bill Foster (Illinois)
Lois Frankel (Florida)
Laura Gillen (New York)
Jared Golden (Maine)
Dan Goldman (New York)
Vicente Gonzalez (Texas)
Maggie Goodlander (New Hampshire)
Josh Gottheimer (New Jersey)
Adam Gray (California)
Josh Harder (California)
Jim Himes (Connecticut)
Steven Horsford (Nevada)
Chrissy Houlahan (Pennsylvania)
Steny Hoyer (Maryland)
Val Hoyle (Oregon)
Hakeem Jeffries (New York)
Julie Johnson (Texas)
Marcy Kaptur (Ohio)
Bill Keating (Massachusetts)
Timothy Kennedy (New York)
Ro Khanna (California)
Greg Landsman (Ohio)
Rick Larsen (Washington)
John Larson (Connecticut)
George Latimer (New York)
Susie Lee (Nevada)
Mike Levin (California)
Sam Liccardo (California)
Ted Lieu (California)
Zoe Lofgren (California)
Stephen Lynch (Massachusetts)
Seth Magaziner (Rhode Island)
John Mannion (New York)
Lucy McBath (Georgia)
Sarah McBride (Delaware)
April McClain Delaney (Maryland)
Jennifer McClellan (Virginia)
Betty McCollum (Minnesota)
Kristen McDonald Rivet (Michigan)
Morgan McGarvey (Kentucky)
Gregory Meeks (New York)
Grace Meng (New York)
Kweisi Mfume (Maryland)
Joe Morelle (New York)
Kelly Morrison (Minnesota)
Jared Moskowitz (Florida)
Seth Moulton (Massachusetts)
Frank Mrvan (Indiana)
Richard Neal (Massachusetts)
Joe Neguse (Colorado)
Johnny Olszewski (Maryland)
Frank Pallone (New Jersey)
Jimmy Panetta (California)
Chris Pappas (New Hampshire)
Nancy Pelosi (California)
Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (Washington)
Scott Peters (California)
Brittany Pettersen (Colorado)
Nellie Pou (New Jersey)
Mike Quigley (Illinois)
Jamie Raskin (Maryland)
Josh Riley (New York)
Deborah Ross (North Carolina)
Pat Ryan (New York)
Andrea Salinas (Oregon)
Mary Gay Scanlon (Pennsylvania)
Brad Schneider (Illinois)
Hillary Scholten (Michigan)
Kim Schrier (Washington)
Bobby Scott (Virginia)
Terri Sewell (Alabama)
Adam Smith (Washington)
Eric Sorensen (Illinois)
Darren Soto (Florida)
Greg Stanton (Arizona)
Haley Stevens (Michigan)
Marilyn Strickland (Washington)
Suhas Subramanyam (Virginia)
Tom Suozzi (New York)
Emilia Sykes (Ohio)
Paul Tonko (New York)
Ritchie Torres (New York)
Lori Trahan (Massachusetts)
Derek Tran (California)
Lauren Underwood (Illinois)
Juan Vargas (California)
Gabe Vasquez (New Mexico)
Marc Veasey (Texas)
Eugene Vindman (Virginia)
Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Florida)
George Whitesides (California)
Ro Khanna, Hakeem Jeffries and of course Nancy Pelosi.
My representative, who is generally a pretty progressive guy, is on this list. A local journalist asked about his vote, and the statement from his office was that the congressman is waiting for a classified briefing on the Iran strikes to help determine whether the president broke the law.
I know that we live in a world where we expect not only a 24-hour news cycle, but 24-hour resolutions to all issues. Having a solid argument and proper evidence for impeachment is the sort of thing that moves more slowly than we would like.
Ten bucks says he never sees that classified briefing.
Ah, Jim Clyburn, the jackass who helped Biden win the primary and put us on the path to the second Trump term.
I hate that motherfucker with a seething red hot vengeful rage and I dont understand why that motherfucker keeps winding up in interviews.
Really appreciate it. I've been telling myself I need to start adding to the emails of my reps, and used this list as the reason to start.
The US is so fucking backwards that they even use "table" as the opposite of it's meaning.
Send messages to your member of Congress on this list. They need to hear that you're unhappy. They were hoping this vote would go unnoticed and you need to force them to be accountable.
Put him in a bigger peach this time, so he can't get out
Bigpeachment
Donnie and the giant peachment
Welp There it is, on record, Both sides are the same.
Reaching obvious conclusions based on observations in reality is tankie shit, please refrain from doing so.
Representative Mike Lawler, a New York Republican, wrote on X: "This is absurd on its face. The United States has not declared war since 1942 and has conducted over 125 different military actions since that time, including in Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf, Afghanistan, and Iraq. Presidents of both parties have relied on Article II authority, as well as AUMFs Authorizations for Use of Military Force], to conduct targeted strikes and have not been subject to impeachment. In 2011, Barack Obama conducted an 8 month campaign in Libya to topple Gaddafi."
They always bring up Obama and Libya. Which was a joint NATO led coalition after a UN passed resolution. Not that it helped, but it is not close to Trump's bombing of Iran. Not even close.
TL;DR: We can't hold them accountable for their crimes, because they might try to hold us accountable for the same crimes.
This is the crux of this issue.
This is actually a good argument, but the problem is that the other side don't give a dick about rationality, the rule of law or anything that looks like a coherent political opinion. Democrats are still trying to win using rules that were thrown out the window by the GOP in January.
Better take: It was wrong when Obama did it, how about we send him to the Hague right after Trump and Biden?
What. The. Fuck?
#GuillotineParty
Well that was nice of them to make a list of who wants to be primaried
God damn right. Primary every last one of those gutless fuckers and never cast another vote for any of them if they represent you.
Here is that list BTW.
Sadly, both my current and my former congressman (I got redistricted) are on it.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-impeachment-vote-al-green-democrats-list-2090250
Is there a list of names? Because if any of my reps show up on this list, I will never vote for them again.
I don't want these fucking dinosaurs running the goddamn party anymore. I want some progressives with teeth who have the backbone to fight the fascists head on. I don't care how petty or how low they have to get, I want to see them at least try.
Thanks. My guy ain't on there, luckily. But geez, there's a shocking number of CA representatives who voted Aye.
I hate this political party so much. Not as much as the Republican party, but enough to make me want to quit following politics because it seems like nothing will ever meaningfully change.
But vote blue no matter who!!!
this but unironically
Still "both sides are not the same"? Even if Democrats have slight majority in both or either houses, they still dilute policies to appease the fascists from stonewalling. Meanwhile, the fascists legislate every unspeakable evil policies and Democrats don't even try to resist as opposition.
Well yes but they only betray everything we stand for because we didn't fall in line and back them hard enough. If we'd just licked their boots better, they would gave broken from all their previous behavior!
So them viciously betraying you to the fascists is your fault actually.
Oh yeah, and all of these 128 Democrats will be very disappointed about something evil that the chertondoes later and "wish they would have voted differently"
Fuck all of them
Vichy Democrats
Damn that's true, same reasonning, same position
Traitors, every last one
Called it. People need to set their expectations way lower so they aren't so pissed off about the lack of action from this party. They should also read up on the legal precedents that were going to sink these articles to begin with. Democrats would have a much better chance to impeach some of the Donvict's shitty cabinet members, (Pete Hegseth, ICE Barbie, RFK, DOGE) for clearly impeachable offenses, but decided to swan dive into an empty concrete pool. So there is still no sound strategy from the democrats on how to dismantle this nightmare and only pissing the public off with limp wristed slaps.
Maybe we shouldn't lower our expectations and instead remove everyone from the Democratic party that doesn't meet out expectations.
Wow, you know, this is why the fascists are in power. You fucking commies are the same as the fascists, with your childish expectation of not being stabbed in the back literally every time you turn your back fron your chosen aristocrats for a single second.
You know, maybe, if you people had just fallen in line and betrayed everything you ever stood for and also maybe let us murder a whole bunch of you and send sone of you to the presidential rape dungeons, the dems could have behaved entirely unlike they have at literally any point in living memory, and gently chastised the fascists. But you didn't, you threw a fit instead of voting for kamala 'girlboss' harris, so now we're all going to die, and im going to feel so smug as i watch ICE take you to the concentration camp, knowing that I'm an entire paragraph down in that poem.
Those expectations were stated very clearly during the primaries and they thew that primary vote away. Twice. Pretty sure it was the money. It wasn't the first time either. Make a new party already dammit.
The US is an inescapable hell. I pity the people living there right now.
unfortunately, a lot of americans don't have the means to leave :/
Democrat and republican parties are the same party.
Yep, 2 wings, 1 bird.
there are a ratchet.
one slides smoothly towards fascism, the other one blocks and reform to fix the slide to fascism.
Because they're paid for by the same people/PACS. It's only the truly democratic ones that actually represent their constituents that make any sense to me. Oh America. I wish I could see a way out of this mess but the "Supreme" Court (C***s?) seem to be untouchable and they're determined to help your president kill everything your country was built on. What is America without it's constitution?!
Good luck! From a very concerned friend in the UK.
Mostly when it comes to Israel !
Only because we didn't vote fot them enough! Guys, if we had voted for them they would have fixed all this instead if being like half the problem!
Really disappointed in my Congress woman, Sarah Elfreth. I wrote her an email and she responded with basically “that’s what they told me to do!”
Gotta share a screenshot of that email if it actually gives any detail, basically confirming the system rigging and complacency from members of said system, send it to some independent journalist or something.
The idea that our government is a representative democracy is a farce. The machine has too much inertia, too much power and money
Reply with "So what is the point of you?"
You people starting to realize that these 'Democrats' are just in there for the money like Republicans are, you need to clean the party
Profiles In Cowardice
AOC might be testing the party. She should know who is going to vote for impeachment before the vote.
Apparently there are still majority of congress critters who will ride the horse of greed right into the ground then think they can call a cab.
She's certainly testing them and shining the light on them for who they are - rotten to the core.
DAE 6d golfchess???
AIPAC dark money paying for itself thousands of times over.
Rep Paul Tonko is one of the NY reps that voted no to impeach. I work 2 blocks from his office and plan to spend my lunch hour every day demonstrating in front of his Albany office. I already called his office to removed. I've got printed letters that say, "Congratulations, you're a fascist collaborator." Going to be stuffing those in envelopes with glitter and putting one in the mail every single day. Give me your best for my protest signs.
Give me your best for my protest signs.
I think "Rep Paul Tonko is a fascist collaborator" works pretty good.
Explicitly request a response in your letters.
Something about a Tonko Truck? Like those Tonka toys. Something there. A Tonko Toy for Trump? With like a Tonka Truck wearing a red hat that says DINO instead of MAGA. People know these things right?
Maybe you can get some inspiration from this, it's not great but I'm like [7] right now.
Maybe have it loaded full of bullshit, or have him driving it.
Or have baby Trump in diapers under a Christmas tree opening up a "Tonko Truck" present.
These things used to be everywhere but I don't know if it's going to make much sense to the youngs.
128 senators show their true republican colours…
House reps. There are only 100 senators total
There's a reason I call them Republicrats. Although I suspect this specifically is because they want future Democrat presidents to be able to blow shit up in the Middle East at will too.
As if the Republicans in Congress would have allowed this impeachment to go through punished. His J6 one while he was found responsible, they chose not to punish him over it. They would have brought up the time that Obama did something similar, too.
Nobody who said "blue no matter who" in 2024 is allowed to say "what the actual fuck" at this.
The alternative being…? What, third party candidates? Are you kidding? The only alternative to “blue no matter who” is more “red” and as you can see, there is literally zero support from “red” whereas there’s at least a substantial fraction from “blue.”
I don’t think many people who said “blue no matter who” are actually very surprised by this, because the phrase is not coming from die hard supporters, it’s coming from anyone with basic logic skills.
Especially if they tried to blame objectors
Disagree, that's basically saying if you vote in your best interest you can't complain.
What the actual fuck
I was a "blue no matter who", why not?
Frankly, I agree. I just want health insurance, weed to be legal and I want for employers to be stripped of some of the freedoms they are abusing to destroy the economy and this country as a whole. I don't give a fuck who they bomb in the middle east in exchange for it. I just want to be able to live my life. Too bad not enough people voted blue no matter who.
…who they bomb in the Middle East in exchange…
Or who they deport, or the misogyny, or the racism, or the abandonment of health and science and climate.
Quite an American response.
"If I keep chasing the carrot on a stick, I'm sure they'll let me get it eventually."
This is why America is going to get a totalitarian purge. It's also why it probably deserves one, we're just going to end up doing it reverse to bite it chuckling and moving on with their day like this asshole.
I wonder what the reasoning is. Do they really hate the idea of Iran having nukes? Do they really like keeping Israel as an ally? I don't know, as a regular voter, what Israel does for us. They seem very unpopular
It's important for the Jews to control the reigon before the apocalypse can start.
It's the core defining beleif of Evangelical Christians, which the Republican party has been controlling with corrupt pastors since at least the Nixon administration
I wish more people realized this. Fundamentalist "Christians" are some of the most antisemitic people and no one seems to question why they are Israel's biggest backers. They literally believe that keeping Israel in power will make supply side Jesus come and rescue them from the awful progressives who want to make sure everyone has their basic needs provided for.
That first sentence tho. What a twist.
They pay your politicians so that your politicians take your tax money and buy Israel guns with it from your arms companies, who give your politicians money so that your politicians buy their guns and send them to Israel.
They also destabilize a region with hundreds of millions of people, whose countries have vast resources and sit on critical trade routes. If people in West Asia were united, they would quickly move on to become a geopolitical power-house rivaling the EU. if all Muslim countries were to work together, they would be the global superpower.
Oh and of course racism. Lots of racism and murdering brown people. The US and many European countries love that.
Don't forget cheap labor. Central America has fuckall for resources, but we do coups there every time our guy gets deposed because an unstable region means poverty means people willing to work for nothing.
The reasoning is that basically every president in the last 5 decades or so has used the existing laws that generally permit presidents to use military force without first getting congressional approval. If that were unconstitutional then the laws should have been changed, but they're allowed to stand, so it's basically not. It's a bit of a silly thing to try to impeach over. The precedence of that being constitutional is massive.
Unpopular opinion here; but there's no way an impeachment would succeed and a failed impeachment strengthens Trump's position with his base.
Everything Trump does strengthen his position with his base.
He could probably eat dog poo on live television and his base would cheer him for a dumb reason.
It's an extreme version of the sunk cost fallacy. His believers are the type of people who think that changing your mind is a sign of weakness. For America to pass this period, a lot of these people will expect a Pact of Forgetting type situation so they don't have to answer for what they were encouraging.
that is exactly why the Dems had nothing to lose. you are not winning over MAGA folks. who cares? they are not the group a symbolic appeal of impeachment would work for. the Dems should've taken the risk to demonstrate solidarity but they can't be fucked to do anything even remotely suggestive they are working for their constituents.
I'll go a bit further and say this particular hill is not the best one to choose, as presidents have long unilaterally launched military operations and it's been broadly declared legal, even if it makes no sense. Changing the law would be good, but as the law stands, it's a hard argument to make that Trump should be impeached because of his unilateral decision to strike Iran but every other president in recent history shouldn't have been impeached over their unilateral strikes.
Need to select some way in which he has behaved illegally, in a way that looks corrupt, and in a way that is different than other presidents that have been given free passes. He seems to give such circumstances pretty routinely, so I don't know why you'd go for this one.
It seems really unlikely that any of them seriously believed impeachment proceedings could happen from this, even if every Democrat in the House voted yes. They knew it was going to fail from the start so it seems like the intent of it was to make a statement.
This, in a nutshell, is what is wrong with the Democratic Party.
If one of these folks is your rep, CALL their office and ask them why they voted to table the impeachment vote, and let them know you're thinking seriously about not casting a vote for them the next time you have the opportunity.
They know perfectly well who they work for
And it ain't (the collective) you
What the actual fuck is wrong with these idiots?
I knew both sides were bad, but I didn't realize the rot was infested this badly.
He's already been impeached twice in his previous presidency, he shouldn't even be sitting where he's at
The day Americans realized no one was coming to save them 🫂
They should have done it on day one and continued every day to explain to the public why it is necessary and how he is corrupt and dangerously incompetent if he remains.
First of all, this is bullshit - every one of the 128 Democrats needs to be primaried out asap. (which of them are up in midterms?)
Second of all, this is another deliberate swipe at AOC and this will not stand, man.
Thirdly - however. We did this with Gee Dubz in early 2000s. Launching a missile strike without Congress' input was already hashed out, and the president can do it. They did it by some bullshit where "going to war" is a whole seal, stamp, and magic incantation hullaballoo. If you remember Hillary voting for the Iraq War II, that was what that was about - they got to a point where Gee Dubz time had run out and he would either have to cut the shit or Congress would have to let him do it. Yes, Dems ate shit back then too, yes. NOT ALL - we had AOCs back then too. But the old ones were "only" sixty back then.
Fourthly - this was never going to go anywhere because we'd need 20 House republiQans to give up their lucrative careers to join in the effort which would then die in the Senate again.
And Lastly - I don't know what 128 Democrats got for what will be costly to them personally, but it was something. Was it worth it? Let's make sure it was not.
all of them are up in the midterms, these are congressmen, they only serve 2 year terms. fuck them, primary out these asshats.
You are correct - including 33 Senate seats (including Susan Collins).
Know Your Primaries! If this doesn't get you to look up who's running, what will?
I think your fourth point is what frustrates me the most. This was a symbolic vote and they couldn't even do that.
And rightfully so. My question is - what did they get for it? Did the DNC ask for it in exchange for something, or did the republiQans ask for it in exchange for something? Or, because we are where we are, did they just do it because they're that awful?
I think the prevailing sentiment is the latter on here, but in the world of politics every vote is a bartering tool.
This was a symbolic vote and they couldn’t even do that.
You're wrong. They did vote symbolically. They voted to support Trump and his actions.
They are not on your side.
Despicable. The Democrats are a shell of what they used to be. How fucking pathetic, but also expected.
Time to vote 'em out, folks! Eyes on 2026 & 2028, if we make it that far!
Curious about what time you were referring to when Democrats were better. I suppose they were OK during Obama (ACA was a corporate-friendly solution, there was a huge wealth transfer from the government to financial institutions and corporations, there were tons of drone strikes, and anti-immigration ramped up though). During Clinton they cut social programs significantly, and implemented the draconian three-strikes law.
Oh I'm talking about Democrats like FDR
I hope you mean primaries, because voting them out at the general election doesn't exactly get you better results.
That's what I meant ya
That would require people attend all Democrat primaries for all positions otherwise you end up voting more magats in. For example, Beto is up again for Texas governor. Please don't vote him in to run again. That would be yet another guaranteed win for Greg Abbott. Literally pick anyone else to run against Greg.
He's still useful to Israel. Bibi has some Raytheon catalog pages he circled items on.
This just shows all of them are complicit. Democrats and republicans, all same shit.
Why people keep thinking the democrats will ever be more than passive bystanders to corruption and greed. They benefit regardless who's in charge as long as it's not left of them
Sounds like some independents are about to be entering office. The people need to stick it to these paid traitors. They get paid a fuckton more than you with your tax dollars and then take money from special interest groups on top of that to fuck you over some more. Are you getting your money's worth America? Get these assholes out of office and put in some actual difference makers. The founding fathers are rolling in their graves watching what the country has become. Shame on all of you. Kick these losers to the curb.
Make no mistake. This is a game of politics. Nothing more. They're not doing anything other than playing a wicked and degenerate game of human chess. They don't care about anything other than their bottom line. They're basically saying fuck the American people how can I personally benefit from this!
Primary them all.
This is so messed up.
I am so cynical already that i laughted out loud reading it.
You cant convince me otherwise but that this world is a TV show for the gods!
Hop on Netflix and watch the one season of Kaos, with Jeff Goldbm. it's pretty great.
Nah
Fucking seriously??? These assholes could finally do something and the roll over. Pieces of shit.
They had no chance of passing it so they're not even going to protest vote I guess. I can't come up with any good reason why they're doing this. They're kissing T's ass at the Hague today when he should be there on trial. Maybe they're just going to publicly fall in line.
What is there NOT to impeach?
All I'm saying is that we need more Zohrans, in every city.
Liberals are against every war except the current one.