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What's the best way to respond to a family member who says the COVID vaccines are being used to depopulate?

They are citing ONS figures of excess deaths as proof the vaccines are killing people. I tried to explain that not being able to get a doctor's appointment, staying home and getting fat, etc explain the figures (official sources have said it too) but they said it's "gaslighting" and then said their family doctor wouldn't get the vaccine.

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  • Maybe not the answer you’re looking for, but I have an uncle like that.

    I suggest going no contact if you can.

    Reason being, they don’t care about facts, nothing you say will convince them.

  • You stop speaking to them.

    They'll either come to realize that there are real world consequences for being a dumb asshole, like their friends and family abandoning them....or they won't. Either way, you win.

  • I told their grandmother how silly they are.

    Straightened them right out. (Happened with my close friends family)

  • Ask them questions. Have them explain how, why. When you find contradictions or confusion, ask how they resolve them.

  • You could agree, that there are those internationally trying to kill members of the general public. Not with vaccinations, but with misinformation. Anyone they can convince, has a chance to die. Tell them to not be a stupid lemming.

    I knew several people who died from COVID and one died from health complications later. I know my reality, but I guess others may need to face death directly to learn the hard lesson.

  • People who believe in these types of theories usually want to feel part of a club or may just be gullible. Pulling up charts and figures likely will not help as they often dismiss it or change the theory. Listening to them and asking them why they feel that way and where they got the information can cause them to critically think about it and start to form the cracks in the theory. If you think you're getting somewhere, maybe ask why vaccines and not another, more accessible form of medicine.

    In this case, it sounds like the family doctor may be the source. Clarify exactly what this doctor said and what they would prescribe instead of a vaccine. It may be something homeopathic or a scam, or something else indicating the doctor is spreading a vaccine lie for their own gain.

    If you're getting nowhere, consider if this family member has a history of mental illness. Some disorders make people prone to skepticism and a general mistrust of the world, or cause magical thinking. Schizophrenia, bipolar (manic episodes), and OCD can sometimes be hard to spot.

    Unfortunately, it could also be something ego-centered, and being "in" on a theory forms a core part of their identity, separating them from the "sheep". They could be unempathetic to the idea of their actions spreading disease, or annoyed at the idea they have to take action to protect themselves. Based on the number of emotional responses in this thread and the general advice to block them or call them names, this is, sadly, a very likely cause. In this case, the best thing you can do is protect yourself by getting the vaccine that they won't and limit physical contact. It's a very sad reality that this line of selfish thinking has become extremely prevalent since COVID. I also had a vaccine skeptic family member who only gave it up once they caught COVID. They were lucky; take a look at r/DarwinAward to see the damage vaccine denialism causes.

    Stay safe OP. I hope there is light for your family member.

  • Are people still talking about Covid vaccines? Aren’t there new conspiracies to move onto. How about Biden being a robot?

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