Ouuu the LIIIIINEEEE!!!

I've heard these described as a "legally acceptable way of filtering out people with autism" and man I've not seen them the same way since.
- I have had a theory that the personality tests are just to have an excuse to discriminate with plausible deniability.
  
  Yep quite a few years back I had two jobs lined up , already got the first but the second one wanted a second interview after I filled in a 50 page personality test. I felt the first offer would be interesting and better paid but wanted to see what they offered. So I said why not just be completely honest instead of faking it :) very interesting interview, I just told them that whoever sold them this idea was probably a very good salesman. The tool is just pointless. I got to much risk taking etc , yea I like skydiving.. I'm not skydiving at work. .. if you want people to bullshit you it's pretty good though haha
  
  This is absolutely the case. In the documentary “The Fog of War” (a great documentary IMO) Robert McNamara explains how he helped create a personality test to screen applicants for Ford (I think it was them).
  One of the questions was “Would you rather be a coal miner or a florist?”. McNamara says his family had owned a florist but the answer they wanted coal miner. For “obvious reasons”.
- yep when I applied to work at target a few years ago, there should have been absolutely no reason for them to not consider me but I took that thiny veiled screening test and wow I suddenly don't get a response.
  fuck corpos man
- That explains a LOT.
- Not really, in this case the more literally you read the question the better. It asks what responsibility you acquire when you have a job not why you got the job.
  
  It’s not about that. It’s because people with autism rarely have a first instinct to give fake answers custom made exactly for the person telling you to fill it out like nd ppl do
  Ppl with autism have this honesty instinct and that is prone to be rather inconvenient in life. Some are very idealistic some are desperate to be accepted as nd and overdo the ‚lying selfish’ part and become big assholes
  Obviously we all know we are here for ourselves but we have to create an illusion that we value our employer. People with autism are a bit worse at these games so it is best that they pair with adhd ppl and complement each other
  I was an advisor of sorts for someone with autism for a really long time to the point I was sometimes writing text messages word by word for them because they couldn’t really ever make them sound natural. I had no idea about autism back then though. They are in finance now I think doing pretty ok but not typical for sure and they are a bit of example that there are autistic assholes out there
  Seriously there is almost nothing worse than autistic person who falls into the incel Tate hole. Not only they are still awkward as hell but also now they are caricature of some kind of macho guy in a mix that is truly hard on anyone’s nerves. On the plus side they are rather confused than evil still because it’s just a trying to fit in mask after all
- Not that I necessarily think they're trying to discriminate against people with autism giving blood, but there's one of these on the blood donation intake questionnaire.
  Intake Questionnaire: In the last year, have you used any illegal drugs via needle injection?
  Me: No.
  IQ: In the last year, have you had sex with anyone who uses illegal drugs via needle injection?
  Me (married): Well, it's not as if I can keep an eye on my wife 24/7... you know what, I'm just going to mark it No.
  IQ: In the last year, have you had sex for money?
  Me: No.
  IQ: In the last year, have you had sex with anyone who has had sex for money?
  Me: I'M TELLING YOU, I CAN'T KEEP AN EYE ON HER AT ALL TIMES, SO FUNDAMENTALLY I CANNOT GIVE A CERTAIN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION!
  
  Sounds like you need to improve your communication with your wife about her potential IV drug use and extramarital affairs.
  
  That one at least has a reasonably understandable medical purpose, all donated blood is tested for the kinds of diseases that these questions are meant to attmpt to screen for, and any amount of testing that can be avoided early saves them more money to spend on other lifesaving pursuits.
  
  You can't even say the same thing about yourself. Maybe you have a form of sleepwalking where you unknowingly wander off at night and become a heroin user, turning tricks to pay for it.
  
  Well in the case of blood donation it's more about not taking/giving blood thzt might have ISTs.
  The questions you listes are "interesting" but i think something closer to the issue here (i.e filtering out people out of bigottry) would be like "in the last 4 months have you had sex with someone of the dame sex ?"
  
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- I think it would just filter people who know what the correct answer is supposed to be.
  
  I don't disagree, I just also believe that the people who don't know what the expected answer is are proportionally more likely to be on the spectrum than not.
- In what way? Are autistic people more likely to value company profits over personal goals?
  
  My understanding is more that it presents a "logically correct" choice (making money to pay bills and be generally... alive) and a "socially correct" choice (the corporate answer) to filter people out.
  
  No, but they’re more likely to answer honestly (that they get a job for wage).
- Masking takes care of this, but possibly not for all.

If I owned the means of production, then answer #1 would be okay.
- Or if they had profit sharing, that actually used to be a thing.
  
  People all collectively forgot that that was the piece that made America great in the 50s.

i want all business owners to know: i, and millions like me, lie through my fucking teeth on these "surveys," telling you what we know you want to hear, while quiet quitting every minute of every day. because fuck you
- They know, they don't care. Read bullshit jobs
  
  They want people who know better but still say what is expected of them
- They know. They just want to filter out the people who are going to say something about it.

If you're getting quizzed on subjective questions and ideology, it's time to back away.
- Yeah, a questioaire like his is definitely a red flag
  
  Usually these employee screening systems are implemented by completely out-of-touch CEO's and upper management who want to seem like they're still taking "bold action" and such during their endless meetings.
  I was supposed to use a really convoluted and stupid personality profile screening system to determine who would be best fits to hire for my team. I ignored it entirely, just had a lot of interviews and got to know the people. After making my decisions, I got called in for choosing candidates that "didn't fit the personality profile for the position" and I said I would take full responsibility if something went wrong.
  The people I hired lasted there longer than me, a couple got promoted.

I would think that any business having this on an employment screener would be a huge red flag. But also, part of being a seasoned (read: weathered) corporate wage slave is answering nonsense like this with the corpo-appropriate response and NOT your actual thoughts.
"Of course branded Patagonia vests would be a great gift for the new hires, I’m sure they love working 8 hours a day and then hawking the business in their off time."
- I once applied for a pretty "standard" job. In return, i was asked to complete a survey which was a requirement. This survey consisted of some questions about "what would you do in this scenario if you would work here" (some of them were video-based ones). Since i have quite enough experience working in retail - i answered those questions kinda realistically even tho i thought that in perfect world the actual answer should be different (so called by you @roude@lemmynsfw.com - "corpo-appropriate"). I finished the survey and i got a email with the results...
  ... it was something like "Not bad! There is a potential to improve" in a kinda mean way
  
  In half of them it's just "seek direction from my supervisor" or "follow company policy or procedure."
  Basically it's never "think for yourself" for anything below manager.
  
  Yeah, had to answer a few of these in a personality match assessment when I was greener. Answered them truthfully and… never got a response from the company. But things like: are you willing to grind yourself into dust if the need arises, do you perform 110% 24/7 or just enough to eek by, and the classic "do you work to live or live to work".
  
  I refuse to record video answers for an interview. I've actually drawn a line at the whole one-way interview in general. If you can't make the time to talk to me on the phone or on video chat, then you're not a company I want to work for. Plus, a lot of companies use those video responses to discriminate against people without having to look the person in the eye. It's so cowardly, and I won't participate in it.

Acquired responsibility under a working contract ≠ Motivation for signing a working contract
- Sure but we are responsible for our own health and that of our family also, so the main objective for many is to obtain “stable employment” the more invisible, the better.
  Work to live. Not live to work.

help your CEO get that hefty bonus

As soon as I read the responses I knew what this was. Guys you have no obligation to believe any of the training they give you. You know what the answers are supposed to be to be. Just tell them what they want to hear and keep going. They are still legally responsible for what happens on the job. This is just something they do to get rid of people or prevent people from getting hired.
- And what is it? I had something similiar in my work integration training of the ... unemploynent insurance fund(?).

Responsibility and objective are two different things
- My primary responsibility is to take care of me and my family by earning enough money to pay my bills.
  
  Sure, but on a work questionnaire you obviously aren't supposed to list your private responsibilities and priorities.
  Your private responsibilities and priorities are a whole different topic that's pretty much entirely unrelated except that work lies in there somewhere. They obviously aren't saying that work should be on top of your private responsibilities list.
  It's really weird that that even included that as an option. Possibly done in bad faith but likely just incompetence.

I always respond and give the "right" answers because it's either an HR psychopath checking your answers to see if you're a dangerous unionist or now a damn AI.
So yes I'd like to kill myself for your company, then find something else and EAT SHIT
- Yes Mr. Bossman, I would love to work at your company. I have aspired to be a
  <insert low-level job title here>
  since I was a small child. I would do anything to help out the company. My only desire is to help the business.

Remember to tell them what they want to hear and they will do the same but we all know it is just a game.
- It's such a waste of everyone's time. Just be honest, it's easier

If it was a worker-owned co-op they'd be the same... but it never is.

you owe that question no honesty

Even the chosen answer is like the bottom minimum of what I expect of a job.
I'd like to be able to pay my bills and have something left at the end I can splurge on something else.
- Like a nice suit for the office? Right?
  
  A faster car, to get to the office more quickly of course

The question left out whether it meant responsibility to the employer or yourself, which is crucial information.
- If you can't pay your own bills, then you can't eat enough to be able to work. So no

I mean, that's what the business wants from you.
I'm surprised they laid it out like that though.

Ah- ha! that’s one of them "family" corporations

Ahhhh, canvas quizzes. What class?

Of course, what do you think you got hired for?

I thought canvas was just for schools

It's just a question asking "What does an employee do"
Why are so many people up their own ass about this.
- Because the answer is "lie and kiss ass and deny your needs as a human."
  
  Jesus fucking Christ. It's asking what the role of an employee is.