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ngl that post is rather toxic
- Wait till they get into puberty.
  
  i had one of those my self, and i was very stupid and anoying during that, that dosent mean my parents want me gone wtf
  
  If you can't trust a cobra chicken on the topic of being toxic, whom can you trust?
  
  Yep, parental puberty is a terrifying phase.
- There's a suicidal way of thinking that when you are gone everyone will be better off. I think the comic could contribute to that thinking, but maybe it's meant to be a satirical rebuttal to that thinking instead.
  Poe's Law
  
  I feel like anybody stuck in that state of mind would likely fail to see the satire in it.
  
  maybe it's meant to be a satirical rebuttal to that thinking instead
  I don't see that. If it's satire it's pretty harmful and ineffective
- I'm startimg to think that's the point.

Maybe don't constantly tell your 13 year old to get a job if they want something, then sabotage any attempt they make at getting a job?
Maybe don't have a kid so you have something resembling a proto-personality beyond self absorbed narcissism.
Don't expect a kid to fix a failing marriage.
sometimes the kid saying that is a little shit. Sometimes it is the parents that are the problem.
- Yup. In my opinion if you want to have a child, the only reason should be to raise a better person than you or your spouse could be, and provide them with a better life than you had, enriching your life in the process. If you have a kid for any other reason, it’s out of selfishness
  
  In that case you would be creating a child (that did not exist before) as a tool to show to yourself (and maybe others) that you can do better than your parents. As the child had no problems before it's creation, and now has many, that's still not in the interest of the child.
  The selfless thing to do would be to figure out if you would be an above-average adoptive parent. If you are or can be, then adopt a child that was created by someone else (maybe to show that they can do better than their parents, but life happened and they failed), and try to give them the best life possible in a society where everyone tries to outperform everyone else as the world is hurdling towards fascism and climate collapse.
- Don’t expect a kid to fix a failing marriage.
  "If I didn't have a kid, my wife would be more fuckable" is the takeaway I get from this comic. And fuck me that's sad.

Thats extremely unhelpful and even harmful for many people
- Me too, and I agree it would have had a negative effect when I was at a vulnerable stage way back then.
  Now that I’m a grisly old bastard, and a parent, I found it funny af.
  So, mixed feelings.
- I definitely see your point, though I took this as an anti-natalist joke, not a refutation of "It's a Wonderful Life".
  I'm inclined to wonder at what point the arguments of anti-natalism must be weighed against the nihilistic implications on those already born?

Literally what I think would happen if I disappeared. This is kinda a dangerous post for people with suicidal ideation.
- I've been watching Mr Rogers lately since I have a young kid now and I think thats the way to act. Even people he might disagree with he would have a chill discussion and respect their opinion, just letting them vent their problems.
- Your existence would be retroactively undone, with the every physical trace of your existence being erased?

If I was never born I wouldn't be alive and I wouldn't have to kill myself. Truly the best of both worlds.

I feel nothing but revulsion and disgust for the person who made this comic.
It places its sympathy towards parents, which is nonsense. They're the ones who choose to bring the child into existence in the first place. They should fucking bear the guilt and try and make up for it as best as they can.
- When I was 6, I told my mother I hated her and she threw away my entire Pokémon card collection. I think my hatred was probably justified. (I had a holo Charizard, removed could have sold it for grocery money.)
  
  My parents treated me mostly fine, though I'm fairly certain with my father it was fairly conditional, I was just careful to not get on his bad side. Now not so much.
  Even with acceptable or even good parents, I still find everything to be fairly existentially unpleasant. I resent being born.
  That said, despite that I still love my mom. Shes a good person despite having given birth to me.
- i don't know who wrote it but i think it might've been a kid who drew it. I've often felt like my parents hated me (i hated them for that too) and i've often contemplated leaving. i've always came to the conclusion that they would be happy if i did so, or if I killed myself. I never did because I was 10 years old and I was scared what would happen to me and i didn't exactly have the means to kms.
- Boomers gonna boom.

I get that pregnancy may embiggen your ass, but that is not where I'd be checking for stretch marks...

Really kinda gross that their kid gets zapped and they immediately celebrate.
No wonder the kid hated them. He knew.
Parents, go hug your kid and tell them you love em.
- Parents, go hug your kid and tell them you love em.
  Better yet, use birth control and don't condemn another life to this shit hole reality in the first place.
  
  Uhhh, you good?

Truly though - What's more life-affirming than showing contempt for your parents' presumption to drag you from the void? It shows you've really weighed your options and decided to stay and removed.
- Adolescents and younger teens aren't really know for their introspection, I kind of give them a pass for saying that stuff at that stage in their life. At that age, lots of us learn how stupid something is only when we hear it coming out of our own mouths. It becomes really cringe though when they graduate into adulthood and they're still saying that or holding that opinion. At that point even their peers are given them the side eye or saying something like "dude, that doesn't fly anymore. Get your shit together".
  
  Hard disagree, from a 30-something. Two horny people fucked with no protection and now I'm expected to get an education, find and hold employment, be self-sufficient, and be fucking grateful for being forced to do this shit? And all of their inabilities to parent properly, leading to near-debilitating anxiety and stress, is somehow my fault? That I should cater to the two idiots that couldn't take a pill or unwrap a damn condom, because they want a mini-me? That I should blindly follow their religious views, of - again - two people that decided that momentary pleasure was better than lifelong calm and stability, for themselves and others? Two people who want to dictate what I like, what I'm interested in, my political viewpoint, my sexual preferences...? Two idiots that decided that mixing the worst part of one's DNA with the worst part of the other is a wonderful thing to do, and the visual issues of one, the deep constant anxiety of another, the risk factors of cancer and stroke, would be a delightful thing to impose on a new being. And I should fucking be HAPPY about this?! Are you FUCKING SHITTING ME?
  Sincerely, a disabled gay satanic furry - with another disabled sibling (let's do it again!) - who was raised straight and christian and then manipulated and controlled, who is already plagued with health concerns, mental health issues, and had their first stroke at 21 years old. Everybody should freely fuck, it's great!
  (To say 'I wish I was never born' is such an understatement it's actually hilarious.)
  
  Bruh
  
  Surely hope your child won't happen to be depressed or traumatized in some way. That would be really cringe after all. 😑

Ngl, this post really doesn't send a good message. Is it true for some people? Probably
But my parents pushed me into 3 days of tafe, 2 days of uni, and 2 days of work a week when I was younger. It caused me to crash and burn
It honestly makes people who are already doing a lot feel like they have to do more to make up for what their parents have given up for them, and that's just unhealthy
I had to move away from that mindset, and something like this really wouldn't have helped
- My comment is sort of inflammatory for no reason, sorry I made it. Deleting
  
  Damn, just you look at this goomba. Galoomba even.
  
  Not my experience.
- Ngl, this post really doesn’t send a good message.
  Have you like.... seen the internet broadly in the last 20 years?

Win win win, I'd prevent my birth if I could
- Me too thanks
- Same. And props for not clutching your pearls at this like the rest of the commenters.

I don't necessarily think that comics that have toxic messages are inherently a problem.
I think a perfectly reasonable parent would relate to the comic at some point. Read as more of a vent post I get it. So long as it's recognised as a toxic perspective and is indulged as a temporary way to air their grievance in their own head I think it can be helpful

I mean, seems like these parents never wanted kids. It’s amazing how many pregnancies are accidental. I wonder how many would actually have children if everyone had 100% control over when to conceive.

The guy miraculously cured male-pattern balding?
- I think stress may be a factor in losing your hair
  
  Absolutely. But not male-pattern baldness.

Kids cause pattern hair loss?
- Stress.
  
  Just need a bit of DHT inhibitor, which is cheap because its out of patent.
  
  The trick to being stress free is to get older without any kind of family, to work yourself to death consumed entirely with your bank account high score, and to consume, consume, consume forever without any thought to the next generation.
  Fuck, this comic makes me want to have kids more, just because of how bleak and shallow the worldview is.

Not me about to make a wish

I commented some of this in response to a popular comment below, but since you asked for general impressions:
I take this as an anti-natalist statement. Anti-natalism has some implications of nihilism for those already born, which is to say: If I think it's unethical or wrong to have children, due to the suffering inherent in living a life (or caused by the negative externalities of reproducing), does that logically imply that I must blame my own parents for my conception, and wish never to have existed? (though not, necessarily to end my own life, of course, as that would bring further suffering)
If we are not going to be nihilist, and instead choose a more utilitarian approach with a cost-benefit analysis, to what extent does the added value of reproduction (from your effect on the future increasing through genetic propagation, fulfilled biological imperative, and any derived joy from interaction with the birthed individual) outweigh the potential loss of quality-adjusted life years from health implications of reproduction (especially for the mothers)? Is the risk of negative outcomes high enough to resolve not to reproduce?

Hairy arms liek a cactus on that guy...
- Don't laugh, do you have any idea how hard it is to live life with cactiarmitis? The budget on winter jackets alone....

i wonder what y'all have to say about this
Here's what I have to say...oOof

I am glad I'm making the people around me suffer because they deserve it. 😈

This post appears to be at odds with c/childfree and c/suicidewatch.

i figured this was posted by that 7th mickey guy
- it doesn't have enough upvote potential or attention seeking quality to it for him.

Lmao at lemmets being so offended here

I choose not to think to overthink this. Bringing up a kid has its rewards and as comic points out, sacrifices. Most parents gladly do whatever necessary so their kid has the best life in this world, and this comic just pokes fun of a phase of our life where we think more of our selves than what our parents offer up for us.
Bad taste? Sure, but sometimes bad jokes are the ones that get the point across and lit most discussion around the topic.
Just my 2 cents.

Huh, a post about shithole parents being exceptionally shitty. Ha ha I guess?

Which one are you though?

Not untrue, but also the parents are shitty for not being responsible for making their child happy. Like... going by this thinking, a lot of people should just murder their parents and inheret everything.
- Depression is a disease, not "your parents not making you happy".
  It's not gonna be cured with a bit of care and smiles, fuck off
  
  There are many situations where a person being miserable is not depression.
  The comic is gross either way. What do you think about the comic?