8mo ago

California Man Ordered to Leave the U.S. 'Immediately' Despite Providing Birth Certificate: 'I'm Not Trying to Be One of the Government's Mistakes'

www.latintimes.com California Man Ordered to Leave the U.S. 'Immediately' Despite Providing Birth Certificate: 'I'm Not Trying to Be One of the Government's Mistakes'

An American citizen is unsettled after receiving an e-mail from the US Department of Homeland Security ordering him to leave the country "immediately."

California Man Ordered to Leave the U.S. 'Immediately' Despite Providing Birth Certificate: 'I'm Not Trying to Be One of the Government's Mistakes'

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Are they just emailing these to everyone in the global address list?
- The "exotic" names are probably getting auto-blasted. It feels exactly that stupid.
  
  Like Lisa Anderson and Tom Frantz.
- doge probably whipped up a garbage AI tool in a hackathon weekend
  
  You give them too much credit. More like, type to an LLM:
  "Hey ai, here is an mbox file full of e-mail from people. Find all the names and make a table of names and email addresses." uploads file
  "Hey muskrat, we got the list of people to deport!"
- Judging by how the people in power seem to like badly implementing ideas from cautionary sci-fi books, here's my guess:
  They're probably using a point system. If you have an immigration hearing, a million points. If they find your name on a visa (not even necessarily you), that's 20 points. If they find your name on an arrest record, that's 10 points. If they find your name on any immigration court records, that's 10 points
  Then they sort the list, send ICE after people with the highest scores, and are slowly emailing their way down the list to anyone with like 50 points or more
  
  works at a nonprofit assisting immigrants in court
  and apparently, if you're an attorney or staffer at a non-profit that assists migrants and immigrants in court.. ten bazillion trillion mega points.
  this guy isn't the only one being targeted.
  
  an idiotic point system was reported by NYT, so, confirmed.
- Mango Mussolini's dream team is using "AI" to do all their decisions and data processing, and they're too fucking dumb (and don't give a shit) to realize that it constantly makes mistakes and can't be trusted for shit. Their jobs are "easier" because of it, the outcomes don't affect them anyway since they live in an alternate reality bubble, and they can claim they're "doing something" while really just having taxpayers pay them to golf.
- Might be related to: https://lemmy.world/post/28612800?scrollToComments=true
  
  Off topic, is there a way on Lemmy to link to a specific comment/post so I could still remain on my instance?
  For exempt this opens web browser to lemmy.world, I'm on lemmy.ee and would still want to stay within the app on my own instance.
  Edit: this time on topic. Yeah, they very likely are using LLM for decisions. Same thing happened with those ridiculous tariffs. I can't believe they are this dumb to believe LLM is anything more than a fancy chat bot and isn't actually thinking.

Why are they expecting people to react to emails, anyway? If I got this in my email, I would assume it was just spam. A letter that comes by snail mail would get my attention, though.
Are legal notices regularly sent by email now?
- It's calculated. They want the email to get ignored so that you "commit a crime" by staying in the country, giving them a "legitimate" excuse to deport you.
  
  But I doubt that email can be considered sufficient notice in any court. In fact, now that it has been published, I wouldn't be surprised if it starts getting spammed everywhere just because.
- No they are not. But these aren't legal notices.

- I can't wait to use this to scare my MAGA neighbors. Thanks for the template.
- Down the bottom, click to report as spam, ez
- Very brass tacks for this kind of official legal document

is this not domestic terrorism?

having a non-western anglo saxon name is enough to get deported.

This is like the 4th, maybe 5th time this has happened. (They we've heard about)
They'll claim it's a mistake eventually I'm sure. But it's far past a pattern at this point

https://open.spotify.com/episode/7bIdtI3D6kZihq6Jxl8hSl
This is the same person on a podcast.

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