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What is you opinion on the parents who tell their kids to "keep your head down" and "don't cause troubles" such as "being a dissident" or "going to protests"?

This is literally my parents. They told me to stop criticizing the people in power, even going as far as saying I shouldn't criticize the government of my former country. I don't even have citizenship in my former country anymore, not sure how I could even get in trouble for criticizing is effecively a foreign country to me. (I'm talking about PRC btw).

My mom told me to "just focus on improving your own life and stop worrying about things like you can't control like politics" (as in, both the politics of my former country and the politics of my current country)

Am I in the wrong here? Should I just keep quiet and not say anything so that I don't "get in trouble"?

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  • I guess this means your parents are from China too? If yes, then they grew up in a country were demonstrating against the government gets you rolled over by tanks. They have been taught that politics is not something for the people, the party takes care of it for them and they should just focus on being good hard working citizens. So, I would think their behavior is a mix of fearing for your life, which they value way more than politics, and an ingrained lack of faith in the people being able to change politics.
    Consider this bias and make your personal choice, especially if you're legally an adult.

  • Schindler didn't criticize the people in power and it helped him save many lives.

    Being effective is more important than being performative.

    • As a white cis-man with many friends who are vulnerable minorities, this is a serious concern for me. I don't use social media, all my political criticisms are here or some other anonymous format ("anonymous" is relative, but at least there's nothing subversive directly connected to my name). I could engage in overt civil disobedience, but if I keep my head down and blend in I have the means to shelter people if things really start escalating.

  • Am I in the wrong here? Should I just keep quiet and not say anything so that I don't "get in trouble"?

    No. Openly communicating (constructive) criticism is essential for improvement. As is protesting if matters are severe.

    My mom told me to "just focus on improving your own life and stop worrying about things like you can't control like politics" (as in, both the politics of my former country and the politics of my current country)

    You can do both. A little personal life improvement here and a little societal improvement there.

    Make no mistake, you're probably just a drop of water in an ocean. But: speaking about what matters to you, going to vote (if possible), engaging in shaping the society, just mere talking to others about stuff can already change so much. It can change minds or at least give incentives to think about. More importantly, it can connect you to other drops in the ocean, until you form a cup of water. Maybe a barrel next. And who knows, maybe one day enough to roll over the land like tsunami. Preferrably not deadly though. ;)

    Keep fighting. Keep engaging. If we keep quiet and do nothing, we will let rule those, who know how to use this passivity to their advantage.

    Only dead fish go with the flow.

  • I tell my kid both.

    Keep out of trouble so when you do cause trouble, no one will point at you and say "it's probably him like last time"

    I teach him to question everything, even me, and I tell him when I was wrong about something, or got new information, or that I don't know something and we look it up.

    I teach him to look at why someone is doing something if it seems weird, they probably have ulterior motives.

    I teach him to cover his tracks and only steal from corporations, not your neighbors, or normal everyday working people. They work hard for their possessions, steal from the rich if you have to. And do it carefully and methodical, no reason to go to jail over something basic.

    I teach him to stick up for those that can't defend themselves, and ask him regularly if he's being bullied and make sure he's not bullying anyone.

    We have a deal if he sees any kid, even if he doesn't know them, not eating lunch to tell me so we can pack two next time.

    He did something recently he wasn't supposed to and lost his switch for the weekend. I showed him how I caught him so he can be better and sneakier.

    I'm not rich by any means, but he's more privileged than most, he's very humble and looks out for others as well.

    I mentioned this to a teacher I had a group dinner with when we were introducing ourselves, she looked at me like I had 3 heads. I trust my kid, trouble will happen, no doubt, he will be prepared.

  • If everyone dissents then dissent can not be crushed.

    Never let a government scare you

    And if you're at the point where they are killing or dissapearing dissenters then being quiet won't save you from the thought police, the only option then is to take as many of them with you as possible when they come for you.

  • It is clear that your parents are concerned for your safety and well being and I don't think that is an unreasonable position to have. Nobody wants to learn that their child was arrested or killed at a protest.

    However. Great change does not come from folks staying safe and quiet at home.

    I think many parents are struggling with this right now. On one hand it is our duty as citizens to do something about the world around us and not sit in complacency. On the other hand that's extremely dangerous to do in the current environment. I doubly respect this concern coming from Chinese folks who may have experience with having their speech suppressed in the past.

    I support you being out in the streets and making a big noise with the rest of us. But I am not your family. If you were to die, or be taken prisoner, at a protest I would never know your name, only that you were my brother who gave his life for our cause. You would have my unending respect but in the end what I think of you shouldn't matter for you and yours.

    Protesting is dangerous. More so now than ever before. Things worth doing are never easy but this, especially, is something that has a serious chance of ending or ruining your life. Make your peace with that, or avoid it if you can't. The world needs dissenters right now, but it needs ones that are well seated in their confidence.

    At the end of the day though, no matter what happens, I can't be mad at anyone for prioritizing their personal safety. A revolution will require sacrifice but that isn't something that can be asked of someone. It is given freely or not at all. Your parents are asking you not to make a sacrifice.

  • It’s good advice for certain reasons and bad advice for others. It also depends on your situation, especially in these times in the US. If you’re a US citizen you might have more freedom to stand up for yourself and others than if you’re an immigrant.

  • Fuck them.

    In the metaphorical way.

    Don't have sex with them.

    Don't listen to them, you'll regret it. No you're not in the wrong, they are, but everyone and their cousin will disagree because theyre cowards who don't want to make their lives harder.

    Imagine living 100 years in Germany and being worried about politics and your mom going "just keep your head down".

    Cowards. The lot of them.

    By my estimation non-cowards are about 1/50.

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