/r/buyfromEU "Lemmy is populated by far left Americans who were banned from Reddit for extremism. Strict ideological conformity is required or you’ll get actual death threats."

- It's not my fault a lot of like-minded people also thought "Fuck Reddit". If they want more liberal or conservative people on Lemmy they're welcome as long as they follow the rules. Problem is that liberal or conservative people don't really mind the stuff happening on Reddit, so why would they?
  
  It's not like right wingers have never fucked off and built their own "free speech" social media sites, with blackjack, and hookers.
  Oh wait they do it all the fucking time. They're just mad we figured out we can play their game too.
  They're also mad it makes it obvious that there are more of us than there are of them, since they get filtered into their own little defederated silos on Lemmy. They hate reality's well-known liberal bias.
  
  I always thought I was liberal. Why am I here? Maybe the labels have shifted around and I've held on to the same ideas?
  I just find it weird when people group liberal and conservative in the same bucket. Labels are about as dangerous as parties, they muddy the discussion.

I haven't been banned from Reddit.
I want Lemmy to succeed because I want to interact more with people who are not from the U.S., and I don't want to use platforms from the people who were sitting behind him on inauguration day.
Since Elon feels that he can interfere in Reddit and since Reddit seems open to letting that happen, that's a good sign to me that I should limit my use of Reddit and should use alternatives instead. Lemmy seems to be the most Reddit-like of those alternative platforms, so here I am.

Far left extremists banned for their extremist views such as
Encouraging punching Nazis/fascists
Believing Palestinians deserve to live
Discussing Super Mario Bros.
Upvoting
- Don’t forget talking about which Linux distribution is the best.
- Literally Stalin!
- I have been banned from subreddits for making fun of nazis, including banter with somebody that self identified as a national socialist. The extremism is beyond acceptable. Bring the clutching pearls.
- Far left extremists also disagree with my intolerant far right extremist beliefs ...... that's censorship!
- That's my favorite part of it all.
  Explain what Far-Left means?
  Does it mean woke/DEI/Luigi/new phase that makes people uncomfortable?
  
  Far left is communists, socialists and anarchists.
  I'd take a platform of far leftists over far rightists any day. At least far leftists care about people.
- Nice cherrypicking. No, far left for adoring Stalin, deepthroating Russian propaganda and claiming Ukraine is full of Nazis and poor Russia had to react, claiming the Russian war they started in Ukraine is actually started by NATO, claiming that Russia and China are not imperialist countries and so on. Claiming that Russia and China support trans, gay and other minority people and the vile west doesn't. Claiming that what's happening to Uyghurs is made up.
  There's soooo much far left extremism here, way more than I ever encountered anywhere else. Maybe because I never wanted to be part of such a group. But I came with the group that disliked the Reddit api changes and Lemmy really looked like a (smaller and cozier) Reddit replacement at that time.
  Most of the content from back then died out, but idiots (who would be among the first to be executed if their dream of regime change happened) cosplaying as leftists stayed.
  
  Maybe you should try blocking .ml, Lemmygrad, and Hexbear so you never actually see the minority of tankies.

Ahh yes let’s discuss fringe radical far left views like ‘let’s not kill all the poor people’ and ‘the state has a duty to protect its citizenry’ yes, dangerously radical.
- And radical economic ideas like "buy stuff from companies in your own country" or "don't buy stuff from companies in a country that is in the process of severing trade ties with your country".
  
  Wow that’s so radical how can you believe such fringe far left talking points
- If you think genocide is bad, you're a communist!
  No shit though, the most rabid anti-communists literally thought like that. Like J. Edgar Hoover, the reichminister of the FBI straight up said shit in his book
  "The Party (CPUSA) has operated hundreds of major fronts in practically every field of Party agitation: 'peace,' civil rights, protection of the foreign-born, support for (political) 'victims,' abolition of H-bomb tests, exploitation of nationality and minority groups."
  Literally saying if you were against shit like Jim crow segregation or having paid vacation days at your job you were literally taking your marching orders from the USSR.
  That's how out of touch with humanity they are. If you aren't trying to inflict the maximum amount of human suffering with your every breath you're their enemy.

I’m:
Not American
Not far-left (certainly heaps far away from “right” tho)
Not banned from Reddit
Guess I’m not here, the more ya know
- We can be not here together.

Don’t go there unless you want violent communist revolution
I mean, it doesn't have to be violent but beggars can't be choosers.
- "The very concept of "revolutionary violence" is somewhat falsely cast, since most of the violence comes from those who attempt to prevent reform, not from those struggling for reform. By focusing on the violent rebellions of the downtrodden, we overlook the much greater repressive force and violence utilized by the ruling oligarchs to maintain the status quo, including armed attacks against peaceful demonstrations, mass arrests, torture, destruction of opposition organizations, suppression of dissident publications, death squad assassinations, the extermination of whole villages, and the like."
  
  There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.
  Mark Twain
  
  Also violence got us civil rights and the 5 day work week
- If it isn't going to be violent what do you intend to do with all the fascists and counter revolutionaries? Putting them in prisons will require violence. You gonna just leave them out there doing their thing?
  
  Tbf they are the ones that force it to be violent, our side would be happy with a peaceful revolution and to end violence forever. Only the fascists get off on the violent parts

I may be far left, but i'm sure i'm not American!
- What about those of us who are just average leftists in other countries but far left by American standards?
  
  You probably don’t count.
  Lemmy had a mix of Marxists, full on Authoritarians who claim to be communists (tankies, Maoists, Stalinilists, many Leninists), Anarchists (ie. Libertarian Socialists), and a bunch of more centrist liberals (ie. social democrats, progressives, welfare capitalists).
  I’m pretty sure the person is ranting about the first three groups, in particular probably the tankies as they tend to be the least polite and most self righteous.
- Hahhaha same.

As a Dane myself, whenever I see someone claiming to be Danish with takes like this, I feel like investigating, and what a curious account indeed. The account is a little over 5 weeks old, yet they've posted so incredibly much I doubt that's their first account. They wrote in Danish a total of 6 times and it doesn't look machine translated, so I believe they're from Denmark, but I also found a post stating they "moved to Denmark", not sure where from though, but they post all over the place, like /r/ukpolitics, /r/norway, /r/newzealand, /r/auckland, /r/australia, /r/jordanpeterson, /r/conservative and /r/republican to mention parts of the spectrum.
Interesting person indeed, clearly right wing, but why would they move to Denmark of all places?
- ... so, Russian troll factory account
- Maybe he was hired to work on an oil platform or something, you never know.
- Thank you for investigating
- I think you underestimate how good AI translations are.
  
  They are pretty much always worse than human translations and 99% of human translations already suck.

That's wrong I'll kill you

POV: you joined Hexbear or Lemmy.ml
- Yes, and while I don't always agree, I like it in that they are decent people who challenge my cherished opinions and misconceptions.
  
  Uh, I'm not saying that those people don't exist, but the majority of very indecent people I see antagonistically declaring their own opinions and misconceptions to be obvious facts are from .ml and HB.

there are no (populated) instances which aren’t far left American politics
Imagine thinking .world or .ee are "far left" instances lmao what level of nazism is this doofus on?
- Most people on Lemmy are in favor of killing all rich people, which I’d consider a far left position.
  
  You can find that on Reddit too. It’s just this community is much smaller, so these voices are more prominent on lemmy.

I just left Reddit because I have principles..

Lemmy is populated by far left Americans who were banned from Reddit for extremism
considering you can get banned from reddit for being trans or using a vpn because you care about privacy that's not really the point they think they're making
- considering you can get banned from reddit for being trans
  Wait what? When did this happen? I'm totally out of the loop for anything reddit.

Strict ideological conformity is required or you’ll get actual death threats.
They feel so threatened by people existing to the left of them, that they have to make up nonsense like this. Deeply unserious people.
- ah now, remember the lore, calling them deeply unserious is a death threat! that's just how we are

i'm left on a lot of stuff.
I'm small c conservative on a few things. mostly fiscal
My reddit account has not been banned. i'm here by choice
- Exact same here. But I still occasionally pop on Reddit to shit post about bad knockoff watches.

He uses a lot of words but what I think he's trying to say is 'I'm not leaving Reddit because I'm an American neonazi and I like how things are going here'

I mean, I am a far left American, and I don't want far right extremists and nazis on here, but I haven't given anyone death threats.
- Please. I would never make a death treat.
  If I'm comin' after you, you ain't gettin' a warnin'.
- *yet

i wish lol

No. Neither. Am here.

That's funny, I deleted my Reddit account after I'd gotten sick of it.

Just a Canadian here. Threatening 'murica for being ....'murica. fuck em. I hope they hate it.

Why do they think communism is far left?
- they haven't read enough theory yet
- Because it is? If private ownership of everything is the capitalist goal, aka far right, then people owning everything is obviously its exact opposite, aka far left.
  We're currently somewhere in the middle, leaning towards right. Some places further than others.
  
  That's only one part of it. Right to protest, for example, is considered leftist, but it doesn't exist in communism. It's not black and white, but if I had to describe communism as left or right, definitely right due to social freedoms. I'm glad I'm not obligated to take a pregnancy test before getting a job and I don't think that counts as a leftist idea at all.

Sorry, have to lock post since it's attracting off-topic debate and personal attacks that break the rules.

slight truth to it but the answer is more normal people not less

It’s funny that the commentator is danish.

Death threats
Hmmm
They got the sauce for these?
- They probably think people telling them to piss off when they post something stupid is a threat.
  
  A lot of eggshells on social media haha

That's a half truth, I've only been banned 6 times from reddit and 3 times from Lemmy, and never for extremism. And all my death threats were deserved.
- Average hexbear user

Isn't the username of the person literally "Heil Hitler"?

Not clear to me whether it's saying the death threats come from lemmy or from reddit.

I would not worry so much about the one guy. But do tell them they are wrong.

I got banned like ten times just use a vpn I don't want to be on it because its full of idiots

Reminds me of how people say they don't wanna come to Australia, because there are too many spiders. I mean, sure, they're everywhere, but the weather's nice.

a conservative european here.