Times have changed

Baby: costs thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars over a minimum of 18 years
Monitor: shows memes and games, costs a few hundred dollars for a good one, one time purchase
Obviously the child is the stupid financial decision
- It depends on where you live. Believe it or not, kids still care for their elderly parents in some nations.
  
  Making a life-changing decision - for more than just yourself - on the assumption that they will want anything to do with you in 40 years is, how do I put this... stupid as fuck?
  And that assumes they also are able-bodied, of sound mind and judgement, can care for any others financially...
  My folks are getting up there in age, and I'm not getting any younger myself. They are religious, I'm not. I'm LGBT, they are bigoted. I can understand the big picture of caring for others through community, they don't. They are still very capable and mobile, I'm disabled. What side of the fence do you think I'm on?
  They could have just used a fucking condom. They should have. They didn't.
  
  I think the key to this scheme working, however, is that you raise your children in such a selfless way that they would want to take care of you when you have nothing more to offer them. Which is to say, the only way this method works is if it’s not a “method” at all, just love.
  Edit: inb4 honor culture. In the places you likely refer to, uncared-for elderly are considered a great dishonor. But also in these places, differences in social infrastructure and the parameters of personal finance significantly augment the decision. In short, it’s still a net cost of time and resources to raise a child, a balance that can only be paid by love.
  
  Are you telling me that you have kids only they can clean your ass and shit when you older? And people here on dbzero is giving you positive feedback?? Wow... Fucking hypocritical people when it's a rich the egotistical bastard so eat the rich but when is a normal person you celebrate it, such a clown show.

Me at 35: well at least I don’t live on the streets
- Somebody now 15, when they're 35: Well maybe I'll get off the streets soon.
  
  Assuming they are still alive, yes.

I took on a second, what have I done.

Here in Sweden I'm experiencing this with both older and younger generations. I know no one my age that has a kid, but so many younger generations have at least one. My little sister has two, and most of her friends do too. It's weird.
- My little sister has two, and most of her friends do too. It's weird.
  I suppose that makes sense. Support has gotten much stronger, in the last decade or two, for using multiple monitors.
- Breeder rhetoric targeted at kids that grew up with Web 2.0.
- that's wild. i wonder why the younger gen had that shift. how does that difference affect you? do you have kids? where do you feel left out?
- The world is already overpopulated so
  
  is it though? pretty sure that's yet another false narrative disseminated in service of the powers that be, but carried by well meaning liberals
  
  A faultering population can be a factor in societal collapse depending on the manpower required to run the society's infrastructure.
  What happens when there's not enough people to man the power station that runs the car plants that pays the workers to allow them to go buy a cup of coffee? It's all interconnected.

The boomers fucked the economy. Their mentality is "FUCK YOU! I GOT MINE!"

At 35 I got my third!
...27" curved screen with 144Hz and HDR...

Not sure if he's thinking about a second monitor or a second smoke.
- Why not both? I haven't seen that taco girl meme in a decade or so.

Ahh the PG32UCDM! This is best panel I have ever seen, I love mine but the only downside is when it's off the coil whine is crazy loud, almost louder than my system.
- Are there even coil-whine-less displays anymore ?
  
  All of them if you use one of these
  
  TIL monitors still have coil whine. Not sure when was the last time I heard one
- That panel is as expensive as my OLED TV lol

Anyone here ever used curved monitors? I'm seeing them come down in price and wonder if it's cool enough to get
- I hate them, wife loves them.. so good luck lol
- Unless they are huge and ultra-wide, I don't see the point. They don't add anything at small sizes except a certain aesthetic. At large sizes, it's a quality of life improvement as things on the edges are closer than with flat screens. They were more expensive when I looked for them, so test it for the 14-30 day return period and see if you actually like it.
  
  This makes a lot of sense, thanks :)
- I like my ultrawides curved, but wouldn't want a 16:9 curved.
- I have a 32inch flat, wouldn't recommend that size unless curved.
  
  lol. I have a 50 inch flat screen on my desk. You can get used to anything. Though my desk is almost a meter deep and the screen sits right on the edge.
- I have one, only because it was an open-box special. I don't really notice a difference compared to a flat screen when I'm immersed in a game or whatever.
- Curved monitors at 32" or less are pointless imo. But I have a 55" curved and it's glorious. The immersion is on par with VR.
  
  That sounds like a nice setup, and no head goggles
- I got one used, and not specifically because it was curved, I just wanted a monitor and it was available for a good price. The curve is mild and the monitor is only 24" so I don't notice it very much. The monitor feels a bit flatter to my eyes than my laptop screen due to field of vision.
- they can provide headaches if you stare at them too long (and are playing 2d games) (too long may be >20 hours)

Everyone here talking about second somethings. All I want to say is this is the baby with the most developed jaw, nose and brow that I've ever seen in my life.
Things really were different during our parents' times.
- Born a Chad like his dad, grew up into a Wojak like his mom.

I had 3 by 23 😁
Still have only 2 kids though

just bought a third yesterday...
- Lucky you! What model?
  
  Nothing fancy, some generic 2560x1440 Acer IPS
  I have a 4k OLED w/ HDR for gaming or whatever my main activity is, a second 2560x1440 for background videos, but I want a vertical monitor for terminal outputs and documents. Also just more space when I'm juggling a lot of windows

Laughable, I think about MINUTES!

This would seem more accurate to me if it said "Grandparents at 25". I'm the 25yo parent's age and for us, people were already considering whether they could afford 1 or 2 children with mortgage and childcare costs. I guess if we had the big screen TVs, cellphones stronger than computers, gaming computers, and cheap airfare around the world, many of us would have also decided parenting was much too expensive.

By using 2 small screens extremely close to my face, I can have a whole plethora of screens virtually. 😏

I already have 2 monitors (including my laptop screen because I'm primarily on laptop) but recently I tried using Google Earth on a desktop with a fast i7-13700 and a 1440p monitor and it was so immersive. If each pixel was 100m, I could see 256km, all with minimal hiccups.
It reminded me I want a big 4k Monitor for this stuff, maybe even of TV size.

Two monitors suck, don't fall for it. Traded out my 24" & 27" setup for a single 32" and loving it
- The key is triple monitors so you don't have a bezel in the middle of your field of view.
  
  bezel in the middle of your field of view
  One monitor straight ahead for games, 2nd monitor off to the side for discord or some media.
  Or 2nd monitor for the map of the game in the first monitor (game devs!! Pretty please?!).
  
  Triple monitors. Highest quality in the center. One off to the side for videos/discord/other side programs. One off to the side mounted vertically for reading documents and web pages.
- So what you're saying is, 3x 32".
  (I do lots of racing games)
- Got a curved 45" ultrawide. It's one of the highlights of my day sitting in front that thing.
  Still, dual monitors can be useful for sure. It may look 'messy', but definitely functional.
- I have a dual 27” 4k setup, one of which is portrait. I like it a lot, but every time I see my friends ultra wide I consider switching to one. I just can’t justify spending $1k when what I have works well enough.
- false, I use a 32 inch and another 32 inch one 4k the other 1080, I hold the terminal on one monitor and its pretty useful, alternatively keep youtube music on it, but I don't think a third monitor would be useful unless it was a vertical one.
  
  I've been thinking about getting one of those little vertical displays that are like 8 inches wide for status info. I have enough screen real estate but being able to load up certain things in it to monitor would be cool.