What’s a movie nobody can convince you is good?

Best critique I ever heard about Avatar: "Eh, Fern Gully did it better."

I mean it’s just Dances with Wolves in spaces.

The movie was forgettable and not that special. Going to the IMAX with my uncle and three cousins and watching our first ever (and only ever) 3d movie together and squealing the whole 3 hour car ride home about how much fun we had as a family is one of my best memories.

Avatar was the best screensaver ever made.

Bluntly manipulative melodramatic tripe that ejects me completely from the movie, just as with Titanic. James Cameron decided to keep churning out the modern cgi version of a top hat-wearing villain cackling and twirling his mustache as he leaves the damsel tied to the train tracks, and it is kind of dismaying that he got so thoroughly rewarded for it.

dabu di dabu dai

Since you phrased it ambiguously, Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse is amazing.

Even something like Iron Man 1 and 2?
I don't like Iron Man 3 but 1 and 2 are quite enjoyable to me.

Hey, tripe doesn't deserve that

Not even Xmen animated series?

All of Nolan’s Batman movies were heavily pro-cop. Watch TDK again: the day is saved by illegal surveillance, and Batman faces no consequences for using it.

This is how I felt about all the Nolan Batman movies, except it was Batman himself I couldn't take seriously because of Bale's ridiculous Cookie Monster voice. I think I burst out laughing in the theatre when I first heard it.

I'm reminded of this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpitmEnaYeU

Guardians 3 was still good, I see it as the post credits scene of the MCU

The rest is boring to awful

The way I feel about the MCU is like an old relationship where there's not much love left and you can't seem to break it off. Some days you have vain hopes, other days you hate yourself for being too coward to leave.

That's where the comparison ends, because in a relationship you can talk things over together and try to work things out.

Stranger Than Fiction is by far Ferrell's best work, because it's the only film of his where he doesn't act like an insufferable man-child.

I wish he would play it straight in more films. He's actually a decent actor when he doesn't act like a fucking idiot.

Zoolander?

But that’s the point of Talladega Nights, no? It’s meant to be stupid, silly, and absurd. It’s not a drama, it’s a comedy about race car drivers.

Like if that’s your opinion, fine, im not trying to change your mind. But walking out on a comedy cause you thought it was too stupid is like closing a book because it had too many words.

The only Will Ferrell movie I'll watch again is Anchorman. Because yeah, in most cases the humor in a Will Ferrell movie is just screaming inappropriate things.

I've got a similar problem with Ben Stiller. He is by far the worst part of Night in the Museum. We get a bunch of cool and funny stuff happening only to have it slam to a halt so we can have some "Excuse me, Mister sir, but you, shouldn't um." May god damn Ben Stiller to work in an obscure plumbing fittings retailer followed by retirement in obscurity.

Yeah, I'd rather watch the Lynch version anytime, the new ones are like 6 hours of bland, boring choices and wooden performances.

I will say, the first one is the most to-the-letter book adaptations i have ever seen.

I've only watched the first one. Visually it was great, but the scenes over shadowed the plot to such a degree that, even having read the source, it was still hard to follow.

I would not call it a bad movie, but I'd file it with Avatar and the fountain as being more about the experience than the story.

I watched the first one in the theater and thought it was dry but okay. I tried rewarding it when the second one was coming out and I turned it off like 1/3 of the way through. I watched the second one but it couldn't hold my attention at all.

ive told my friend that its a brutalist screensaver, and he got so mad.

I agree with the Dune movies and in particular I think I don't like Denis Villeneuve; He takes a cute sci fi short story like "stories of your life" and turns it into a very self important dull thing. Then he takes a Novel about flying through space with drugs and doing guerriilla warfare while riding sand worms and it all feels so somber and rigid. Man has no fun in him.

Damn this one hard for me. I absolutely hated the casting and screenplay. But it really redefined how i see the universe in my head when i read the books.

You mean 'Pocahontas with blue people'?

I never understood why people liked it so much...

I suppose a movie in which they spend half of the time running through sleeper cars wouldn't have conveyed the same message about classism.

Time to fight the army of goon in an empty car that seemingly serves no purpose than to host a large violent brawl, now it's time to walk through the sleeper car for all the goons you fought, now it's time to walk through the kitchen car for the goons, not it's time to walk through the laundry car for the goons. Oh look, it's a rich person party car, what a weird thing to have at all in any context, are they aware the world has ended? Now time to go through the partier's sleeper car, then the partier's kitchen car, then the partier's laundry car...

Mind to elaborate?

Did you think The Martian was similarly problematic?

Titanic is better if you interpret it differently:

Jack never existed. He was a coping mechanism for Rose to get away from crippling depression and self harm.

The whole movie can be interpreted that way, and it makes it much more interesting. There is no direct evidence for Jack's existence, and everything we hear about him interacting with others is from interviews with Old Rose.

In fact, some parts of the film make more sense when watching this way. Rose's near-miraculous ax hit to free Jack from handcuffs? Never happened. Not getting caught in cargo storage despite having a very involved tail who apparently just gave up? Never happened -- or at least, the part where Jack and Rose have sex in the car never happened.

There is a nude drawing of Rose which she says was done by Jack; however, it is actually signed "JD", so technically could have been any commissioned artist with those initials. In fact, Cal could even have set it up himself -- again, you only ever get Old Rose's version of events. Though we see Rose given the Heart of the Ocean diamond while on board Titanic (and she is wearing it in the drawing), there is once again no reason that must be the case, and since the drawing isn't dated, it could even predate her voyage. The letter she claimed she wrote to Cal about said drawing is not found with it, despite the two documents apparently being stored together.

And, note that a "Jackdaw" is a type of bird with various connections in lore -- one of which being that Jackdaws appear as a precursor to death or an omen of death. Rose claims she met Jack Dawson when he saved her from a suicide attempt.

Propeller guy was the best part of the movie.

Titanic would’ve been a better movie if they’d cast someone other than DiCaprio. But it probably wouldn’t have been as big of a hit.

Thank you, absolutely. So slow and boring.

That's the point... We're watching the spiral of a gambling addict. Its pure anxiety, and it's done so well.

First answer I've taken offense to. IMO one of the best films I've ever seen, and hands down the best thing Sandler has ever done.

I was gonna ask why so I could provide a counter argument, but then the question specifically asks for a movie you will never be convinced is good. So I won’t bother lol.

I think George Lucas would agree with you.

While he directed the first film, Empire and Jedi had other directors. When it came to the prequel series Lucas really tried to get someone else to direct, but everyone turned him down as the project was "too daunting".

Lucas is best as the idea guy.

Take the same cast, story, massage the script, and have ANYONE else direct, and it'd be great.>

Not true, they did this already with Ep7.

That right there is the millennial experience.

So many culturally defining movies came out before the 1980s that by the time you're being raised in the 90's, they're making children's media that references it. I knew the plot of Star Wars long before I saw it.

My favorite example is The Mask of Zorro, which...not an old film, but it came out when I was slightly young for it. A few years go by, I'm in high school, and Shrek comes out. Then it's sequel, with a swashbuckling orange cat voiced by Antonio Banderas. And then I eventually catch Mask of Zorro, and laugh through the entire thing because holy shit the main character sounds exactly like Puss In Boots.

A lot of things that were once creative experiences have been redone to death to the point that it can be difficult to understand what the whole hubbub was with the original.
So, yes, you have to think of it in the context of the era, which may require looking up what was made at the time, what had come before and what came after. It's a bit like paintings or other pieces of art, some of them are interesting beyond what they just represent, but for what they introduced in the world as a statement when they were made (which, admittedly can sometimes be a bit obscure). There too, a little work on the public's part is required to understand why one piece and not another is usually held in high regard (you're then totally free to disagree, or not enjoy it, but context matters quite a bit).

That was a pretty roundly panned movie.

The directors cut/final cut does improve the plot line but admittedly the original movie is more vibes than substance. I think a lot of the "neo-tokyo" cyberpunk aesthetic we take for granted had tropes which originated in this film.

What was disgusting about it? (I absolutely loved it)

I kinda liked your comment, but it insists upon itself.

I thought I was alone with this opinion. There are dozens of us!

I enjoyed it. Great cinematography and practical effects. My wife? Not so much. She broke it down as.. "oh look! They drove away! Then the drove back! The end! That was the whole movie!"

UNGA BUUUNGA!!! >:O

I thought that when it was my first mad max film. Going back to the first one I thought it was amazing.

Right there with you on these two. So overhyped.

Yeah I never got the hype for it being an oscar contender.

I didn't finish it haha

I agree. It was Short Circuit meets District 9.

Yeah it really sucked

For me I just feel like I'm not equipped to judge it. I haven't lived in the time period it first came out in and I've enjoyed the options of thousands of different forms of entertainment at my whim for most of my life (mid 30s). I imagine when there were far fewer things going on and options to choose from you might see this movie in a whole different light.

All that being said I like some older movies just fine, like Harvey which came out 9 years later, so maybe my judgement is fine and Citizen Kane is boring as fuck. 🤷

Mid story, great visuals.

I know everyone hates it but i loved it at the time and I'm scared to watch it again because I'd probably hate it now but avatar😭 i want it to be good

Absolutely this.

I haven't watched it since Mel Gibson was revealed to be a giant POS but King Steven is by one if my favorite characters of all time.

Such a quotable movie

That’s a rough one. Everyone ever loves it… I completely do not get it.

I'm rereading the book right now and just watched the movie. While I agree it's... not good and certainly not faithful to the source material, I think the kids were all fantastic. They acted their little hearts out and - in my opinion - really nailed the characters.

Accept no substitute

Do you like the one from 1990?

I tried watching that one a few years ago. It aged poorly

Me neither but to be fair I don't like fantasy, adventure or fighting lol. My brother convinced me to have a LOTR marathon and lemme tell ya I got a LOT of laundry done that day....

I upvote you for being brave enough to voice your opinion on this.

I like the movies but hey everyone doesn't like everything

Now that is an unpopular opinion.

This is like an opinion some Easterling would have. /j ;)

What if i told you its got a frypan wielding, tater tasting, gardener?

I completely understand you, even as a fan. Tolkien style of fantasy aged like milk. It's contribution to the genre and literature as a whole is impossible to measure, but it's just not fun anymore if you never saw it before. The movies aged a little better, but still not great. Anyone who says otherwise has either seen his work a very long time ago, or is looking at it with nostalgia glasses. Noone in 2025 could get through all the goofy-ass singing, lack of any shades of gray, unrealistic battles, and tree branch backstories without rolling their eyes once or twice. It really requires the viewer to not treat it too seriously, something like orginal Star Wars Trilogy.

Rian johnson is a national treasure!!!

Idk Andor is some of the best star wars ever. Even considering the original 3.

Also the lightsaber tech that they have adds so much to the visuals of the movies and TV. Having lightsabers that actually glow AND allow for contact during combat is just incredible.

Yeah it's pretty funny. Most of these are just "it's overrated" complaints, which is not the same as a film being iredeemably bad. Feels like a lot of these people just hate being exposed to opinions that differ from their own, so over time these overrated films have morphed into a 1/10 atrocity in their head despite none of their issues with them actually reflecting that level of hatred. You could definitely make a compelling argument for many of these films being good, and the only reason these people wouldn't be convinced is because of their aforementioned personality flaw.