Alternative more accurate headline would be "Most Americans are really stupid and ignorant and actually believe the things Fox News (or worse) reports are even remotely truthful".
Also, "mainstream" media is far (FAR) more critical and nitpicky about Democrats and blame everything on them. When they question Republicans the bar is usually "can you confirm that racism is bad?".
They need to do studies where they remove the name of the politicians and instead ask people their opinion on certain subjects and then end with their political choice and rub it in their face that they're actually voting against their opinions by voting for Trump.
Back during trump 1.0, I had an idea for a website where I would take news articles and swap Democrat and Republican words and phrases, like Trump <> Clinton or Obama, Obamacare <> ACA, etc. It was going to be called "45° Angle" (since he was the 45th president) and the tagline was going to be "The Right Perspective" or something like that. My thought was for it to be akin to the Colbert Report, something that passed at first glance but would pretty quickly be recognized for what it was with a bit of critical thinking, all for the purpose of being able to share articles with MAGAts and get them to agree before pulling the rug.
Poll is inaccurate garbage because it's asking whether people agree with Trump's fake goals that he claims to want instead of his actual goals that he's actually doing
All of Trump's key policies received majority support except for renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America, with deportation of illegal immigrants who have committed crimes (81%), eliminating fraud and waste in government expenditures (76%), and closing the border (76%) as the top three most supported policies.
Surely the proletariat will express their disgust with fascism any day now, we just had to Teach The Dems(tm) first. Any day now.
there's is a lot of nuances with those top three. they sound pretty good as an idea but I'm against trumps definition and actions on each of those items
Did they ask about “siding with Russia over Ukraine”, or “Making peace in Ukraine in three weeks”? Yes framing matters, and obviously people support policies that are framed like “eliminating fraud and waste in government expenditure “. Wonder how that position is affected if you add the subclause “by kids that come straight out of high school “.
Ah, I see what the article got wrong now. They think he actually wants to implement those policies instead of just being evil for no reason and using those as a guise.
I support deporting undocumented immigrants who commit a crime... for certain definitions of crime. I am not aware of anyone in my personal circle who would say that someone who bypassed asylum seeking to enter the country undocumented and then raped someone should be allowed to stay... the issue is that the administration considers all undocumented immigrants to be equally worthy of deportation while disallowing reasonable legal paths to immigrate.
Due to the sematic bad faith tools in place it's extremely difficult to actually gauge legitimate opinion since that wording evokes a particular ideation in conservatives and the administration exploits that mismatch to commit actions that most Americans find objectionable.
Yeah, plus a lot of people in the Democratic party are more comfortable going after Ilhan Omar and protesting college students than their Republican friends, so the counter messaging has been totally incoherent and confused and that's gotta be helping Trump's poll numbers a bit
And quite frankly, among (young) progressive people, getting attacked head-on by Trump is somewhat more predictable and less emotionally taxing than getting backstabbed and gaslighted by liberals.
Which is why a lot of them didn't vote for Kamala.
I don't yet know where the American political realignment will end, but the liberal/progressive coalition that elected Clinton, Obama and Biden seems to be irreparably damaged.
History demonstrates that it's very likely to get much worse. Too many humans refuse to ever admit they might be wrong. The problem is each time things get pushed to the limit, it affects more and more of the world at the same time. This may be one of the last - if not the last - times we get to go through this cycle and still manage to survive as a relatively civilized set of societies.
Here are some of the real, actual and totally-not-biased questions asked in this survey. There are no alternatives to these questions, these are the only ones asked about particular policy positions:
DJT08 Do you support or oppose each of these policies:
Deporting immigrants who are here illegally and have committed crimes
Undertaking a full—scale effort to find and eliminate fraud and waste in government expenditures
Closing the border with added security and policies that discourage illegal crossings
Banning men who have undergone operations and hormones to become women from girls sports
Declaring that there are only two genders male and female in all government forms and programs
Eliminating all preferences by race in the hiring and awarding of government contracts
Freezing and re—evaluating all foreign aid expenditures and the department that handled them
Placing reciprocal tariffs on countries that have tariffs on US goods
55% of voters support birthright citizenship for the children of illegal immigrants, with 63% believing it is a requirement in the U.S. constitution, breaking with Trump on the issue.
A poll could just be a survey given to a skewed and biased crowd of people. Or it could be given to 10 people or otherwise a number that isn’t representative of the people overall population.
Considering the majority of Americans now get their news from mainstream media which is all run by Trumpers now. I'm not sure what they expected. Propaganda of the likes Hitler and Stalin would have approved of.
The Trumpoids march in lockstep with each other, repeating the same, predictable, consistent lines.
Dems don't. Dems have deep and very heated disagreements over issues that most Americans don't care about, or care about but don't understand, and are frustrated that the issue is complex and not solved by saying "I solve it".
To an inattentive observer (ie most Americans), it looks like one side has all their ducks in a row and the other doesn't.
Add in a dash of long-standing racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, and a very "Me me me" attitude towards foreign affairs, and you have the American electorate.
Most notably, Trump is outperforming Biden’s public perception across a variety of issues. Of those surveyed by the Harvard/Harris poll, 58% said Trump is doing better overall now than Biden at the end of his term in January.
—On the economy, 49% approved of Trump’s handling compared to just 37% for Biden at the end of his term.
People thinking Trump is doing better than Biden is different than people thinking Trump is doing well. It's definitely biased by Trump blaming everything going wrong with the destruction of the federal government on Biden, and DEI and wokeness etc.
The parts of the economy that are/were going well are from Biden's inflation reduction measures. Likewise, the shit economy in 2021 was what Trump's COVID response brought him. Like it sounds like a double standard on the surface, but the idea is that Trump and Musk are currently breaking the government, but people are only going to start feeling it in a few months.
The parts of the economy that are/were going well are from Biden’s inflation reduction measures. Likewise, the shit economy in 2021 was what Trump’s COVID response brought him. Like it sounds like a double standard on the surface, but the idea is that Trump and Musk are currently breaking the government, but people are only going to start feeling it in a few months.
That's a fucking dream. People don't react to reality. They react to their perceptions. And everything has been tee'd up for the Trump regime to dictate the perception of the mass of Americans who don't follow politics or don't care, in addition to already controlling the perceptions of their party-line goons.
Trump, like Hitler, will be able to run the country into the ground, and still have majority support a decade after everything has been turned to rubble.
People are going to feel the devastating effects. I never said people would be able to properly attribute that feeling to the accurate causes. Like you say, they will attribute it to whatever they are told to.
The stance that "they are all just too stupid to know better" is counterproductive and needs to stop being used. If you are so intelligent why can't you find persuasive relatable talking points that will inspire more voters to show up and vote for you? Maybe you are not as knowledgeable as you believe or we wouldn't even be having this conversation.