Trump imposes harsh sanctions on Colombia for not accepting "repatriation" flights

It's likely because there are a lot of things named Columbia in the US. District of Columbia, Columbia South Carolina, Columbia River, Columbia University, the space shuttle Columbia, and in Canada British Columbia.

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Oy, what you on about

I’d be really surprised if anyone in the administration knows there’s a difference.

We can only hope.

It's really simple if you have a basic, or very tiny, ability to think about it for two seconds. Let's see if I can help. Criminals being deported are a huge problem for any receiving county, you see, they often don't have any legal pretext to imprison or arrest them, if they committed crimes in anther nation, it's unlikely the can collect evidence, or call witnesses to a legal process, also, it's quite rare to have laws that apply to actions that occurred outside all legaly boundaries. It's it illegal if an American goes to a county they don't have documentation to be in, then commit crimes outside the US against other people without any way for the US to detect or prove these actions? So if Colombia has an American who kills dozens of people in their country, and is charged and sentanced to life without parole, and then the decide YEARS after the fact to put them on a plane to LAX and throw them off the plane with no other effort, do you want to let that plane land? That's fucking insane. The solution to this problem already exists. Instead of being a fascist stupid fuck, you can create an extradition process where we can accept the Colombian legal process and transfer them ourselves to a US prison without dumping serial killers at an airport on their own.

Being a threatening authoritarian isn't solving this problem, and thinking every country in the world will simply accept people who have been convicted an sentanced in another nation is fucking stupid. And thinking they can't manage to exist outside US economic good will it's also stupid. If he think burning every ally in Latin America is going to hurt them more than us, he's as dumb as everyone already knows.

We don't actually know what is going on. We had a system that favored protections for people presumed innocent until proven guilty.

Now Trump is moving so fast with a process that is not transparent and a rhetoric that is hostile and unsympathetic towards all immigrants. People are understandably suspicious that the immigrants were given a fair chance to defend their legal presence in the USA.

Shit, I won't be surprised when legal us born citizens get deported in a mix up.

Stop using that label as an excuse to treat people as subhuman.

The state is rounding up people en masse and shipping them off to a foreign country. This process took a week. Due process is not present. This is some straight-up Nazi shit, and if you can't at least mutter "fuck that," then please shut up.

Basically nobody opposes deporting actual criminals (not political crimes). The problem is that it isn't the cartel members and bank robbers who get rounded up when a factory is raided. And the mother fleeing persecution is treated the same as the drug kingpin.

Yeah, why shouldn't we send all Republicans to another country? Or how about those criminals guilty of being Jewish, or black, or gay? Or how about the crime of "looking too Mexican," like the US did to US citizens during Operations Wetback 1 & 2.

Also, love how you even say "some of them are criminals," not all of them. Meaning that you're okay with gathering up some amount of innocent people and sending them to a different country with nothing more than the clothes on their backs.

Because we're not entitled to force some other country to take them!

WTF did you think the answer was‽

actually are criminals

Where was this disdain for criminals at voting time?

Ah yes, because criminals are subhumans who should be exterminated like the cockroaches they are. And if we can't take the trash out back like we should we can at least make it not our problem and make sure the cockroaches aren't in our backyard. That's what you're saying right?

The planes (there were two) landed in Brasil. I don't know if that's where they came from in the first place.

A note: Usually these people are brought back using normal commercial flights. Only this time they used military planes.

You're behind the news. Colombia caved within minutes. No tariffs. The idea was to push them to take their citizens back, and it worked.

That is the only logical step. You can’t make deals with someone who throws you under the bus at the next opportunity 🤷🏻

They should start now. Countries should cut off trading with the US once Trump starts making threats in their direction, instead of waiting for him to make up his mind and do something. He's too used to there not being any consequences.

Do to the US what the US did to cuba? That would be so cruel.

A growing number of Canadians are already calling for exactly that

INB4 EU joins BRICS

For the sake of the planet I hope he gets a world record

more. middle-men gonna middle on that 25%.

You don't understand, tariff is promoting the emergence of American made alternative, by next week you will find American grown coffee and bananas in the supermarket.

Coffee is already getting more expensive, I'm assuming everywhere :/

And 50% more later on :)

But why would you buy ground? A grinder is like $10. You can grind 3-4 days at a time if you don't like cleaning.

Ooo boy Don Jrs gonna have a hard time with this one

True. I should have been more clear: Deportation requires the involvement of the judicial branch. Repatriation has no such requirement. "Repatriation" is a more generic term for returning to one's country of origin.

I did not mean to suggest that "repatriation" was exclusive to POWs, and I apologize if I gave that impression. I meant to distinguish between judicial and non-judicial.

POWs do not need to be charged with a crime. Indeed, under international treaties and laws governing armed conflict, POWs generally can't be criminally charged for simply participating in hostilities.

They can be held without charge until the conclusion of hostilities. They are not entitled to the protections afforded to the accused, because they are not accused. They are not entitled to access to the criminal justice system.

By describing them as "invaders", he is suggesting that immigrants be treated as enemy combatants.

Norman Finkelstein said something the other day, quoting someone else...it was..."hypocrisy is the homage that vice pays to virtue". Meaning, evil people understand what they're doing is wrong, that's why they pretend to be good. Hypocrisy is beyond the point to them. They've sacrificed morality. Although I think Finkelstein was saying it in the context of talking about how Republican pols do so much less of even pretending to be good (though certainly not zero).

My comment alludes to Trump’s negative opinion of refugees

What would you call forcibly expatriated people

He's the president of the United States

E.g. donald trump, or are you disagree that he is a legal criminal, according to his sentence. Like, a criminal yes, but we don’t judge you, because clearly not everyone is the same in front of the law, apparently.

That would be Wall Street

Yeah, I just saw the news that Colombia gave in.

Trump is going all in. He's reverting to the 19th century way of strong arming other countries over petty things. He's reviving the old-school capitalist imperialism.

I suppose, but we're talking about international diplomacy. And a modern one at that.

Trump's strong arming sounds so 19th century though. His open threat of taking Panama canal, Canada, Greenland, and renaming the Gulf of Mexico is so manifest destiny.

The US caved actually, Petro point was that the deportees werent treated like garbage.

Bent the knee.

We are getting married at the notary today so she hasn't applied for it yet! I am here I Colombia with her so sorry for the late reply. Internet is spotty I will look better when I arrive at her house. Thank you!

I was born and raised in the deep south brother. Hate to be rude but fuck off.

Not by itself, but it’s representative of his overreaction to every little perceived slight against him. Correct me if I’m wrong; it’s standard to send and receive civilian planes for returning migrants. Colombia does not want its citizens being treated like criminals, detained aboard military aircraft. US media is declaring victory for Trump on a technicality. If this is all it takes for him to completely fill his diaper, he’s going to drone strike the first country to follow through with retaliatory tariffs.