A new trend in tipping emerges
A new trend in tipping emerges
A new trend in tipping emerges
Oh America, come on:
Thanks. I would love you so much more.
Congrats, you managed to alienate 85% of political financial backers.
You got my vote.
Lost me at guns, everything else I agree with.
I got kinda lost w/the religion and money bullet. It’s a bit abstract. Is that about churches escaping taxation?
The motto of the US is in god we trust, which is why it's on money. It became the motto in the 50s when Christian nationalism became a prominent position, which is the root of the evil that is the gop. The gop would need to be a minority in government in both houses of Congress in order to change the motto, unfortunately.
It's a change that is definitely needed, however the Christian nationalists are controlling the conversation, as was designed by McCarthyism. In TX, schools are required to hang a poster that says the motto if it is donated by a citizen. In the last legislative session, there was also a bill that would have required every classroom to post the ten commandments.
It is going to take an effort to go vote by the populace at large. In 2022, only about 80% of the Voting Age population was registered and of that 80%, only ~46% cast a vote despite the fact that it was a major election. A large portion of the judicial branch, almost all of the executive branch, and the entire legislative branch of TX were up for election and we only got 37% of the Voting Age population to the polls. Even with polls open for at least 9 hours a day the first week of voting and 12 hours the second week and final day of voting. Being the first state to have early voting, it's common knowledge that there is virtually no line during early voting, but we still don't have turnout.
Anyway, on top of needing people to go to the polls, we need a cultural revolution that rejects far-right ideology. McCarthyism purged centrist and left leaning ideology from the country and we are only in the last couple decades starting to see more centrist policies come into play.
A major problem with voting in this country is that it's not a national holiday, If your working minimum wage you likely can't afford to take the time away from work which means politicians that campaign on a higher wage lose preventing a wage rise creating a loop. The people that are best suited to vote are those that are well off and retired and statistically they lean republican because of people not wanting to help others disadvantaged while seemingly forgetting that they used those programs to get there. People working at minimum wage or even generally low wages and paycheck to paycheck just can't afford the time to vote and their best chances are mail in voting which republicans know, that's why they're pushing so hard against them to make it as inconvenient as possible, because if its easier to vote in person and the people you don't want voting cant vote in person then you just eliminated them from the voting pool by circumstance.
There is also a lack of push for midterms and local elections, the presidential race is very big and public and made a whole spectacle, like you can still remember the 2016 and 2020 elections but be honest with me, what can you remember about the campaigns of the 2018 midterms. The 2022 midterms were basically an exception to the rule because the abortion ruling happened so close and it created such visible lines in the sand but I truly think if the abortion ruling happened in February 2021 not long after Biden got into office the turnout for 2022 midterms wouldn't have had as big of a turnout because it wouldn't have been in the public mind quite as much, the debate on abortions is still big but its mostly shifted to individual states rather than country wide at this point.
Could have sworn I was "E Pluribus Unum".
After a quick search I see they changed/never officially adopted it.
Lame, so much cooler!
Americans will never be disarmed. Look up the process for changing a Constitutional Amendment when you feel like learning something new sometime.
Funny how there's been 27 amendments tho
I keep forgetting that there are people who still use cash.
I love using cash. I feel like I am thwarting The System since it keeps pressuring me to use credit cards or some other form of electronic currency. I mean I use some of those too when necessary, but I use cash whenever possible.
A lot of low-income households in the USA don't have bank accounts and only use cash.
And more are welcome. The war on cash must stop. Shopping should be a private matter.
Modern US currency is somewhat colorful.
The first and the last bullets are never going to change sadly. Tipping is only on the increase, guns are just like an inherent part of America now - kids are getting slaughtered by them daily and it's just like normal. Gun control is a laughable proposal in the US. If it hasn't changed with all the reasons to change, it's not going to. SUVs are actually becoming MORE popular. Healthcare is fucked.
I agree with you except the weapons.
Agreed, though keep your filthy fingers off my gas guzzler
Edit: people calm down. I'm just joking - it's actually a diesel
We are trying...
Edit: Please tell me why you disagree, don't just downvote me. Downvote is not a "disagree" button. I'm just trying to share my thoughts the best I can.
Tipping had devolved from customers saying "I'll give something extra for extra service" to restaurants saying "since you pay for the food, why don't you pay for the staff too?"
Only real way to get rid of this culture is to ban it to start. Workers need to demand living wages at the same time as ban comes into effect.
SUVs are not fine, they're getting bigger and bigger along with the trucks at the same damn time.
Gun owners aren't cowards, being afraid of guns makes you a coward. Learn to handle guns so you don't have to piss yourself in fear.
SUVs are for bad drivers that need to be in giant vehicles to feel safe due to their own inabilities. Some large trucks are acceptable for work purposes but SUV manufacturers use legislation for work trucks made years ago to get away with ignoring safety standards.
Electric cars aren't better for the environment in our current ecosystem. You might not be burning fuel in your car but you're burning coal at the power plant. Beyond that all you've done is make yourself more dependent on the power grid. If you are one of the very few people with self sufficient electric in your home you can skip this one.
Free healthcare doesn't equal good healthcare. People in places with free healthcare have to wait ages for treatment and may be turned away from treatment if the government is over their saving your life budget. The insurance industry could use some work though, hospital bills increase because they can get that money from an insurance provider, this fucks anyone without insurance because most people don't realize they can negotiate those prices down.
It's similar enough to a real bill for the distributors to be charged under 18 U.S. Code § 475 (Imitating US notes for advertising).
I believe if you were to take this to your bank and tell them that someone tipped you this and you just want to check it it's counterfeit or real, the FBI would suddenly be involved
US Secret Service is in charge of counterfeiting investigations, not the FBI.
It doesn't look close enough to a real bill. The person on the counter would probably just say they will get someone involved and then throw it away and do nothing.
Have they ever charged those churchs who hand out chic tracks on fake folded 50s?
I thought at first that's what this was - one of those stupid Jesus tracts that look like a $20, because apparently, SaViNg YoUr SoUl Is ThE bEsT tIp Of AlL!1!
Those don't look enough like real money to be illegal. These do.
It is remarkably close to a real bill. If not for the numbers being obviously wrong, I can imagine someone mistaking this for a real bill.
A year 2024 bill denomination? Doubtful. Courts have long protected the right of parody money as long as it was clear that it's not real. And making a bill that doesn't have a dollar amount on it and is clearly political speech would likely be protected.
Yeah but they are leaving it in place of actual money. IF you found a LEO who wanted to fuck the tippers day up it could probably be used as grounds for an arrest because its being used in place of money. Wether a charge would stick or not would entirely depend on the judge.
Kind of like how walking around with tiny baggies full of baby powder is legal, selling them and claiming its coke isnt. If you try to pass something that looks like money off as money...
Nobody but your boss has to give you the pay you deserve
You're not wrong, but anyone who leaves shit like this or the stupid church dollars as a tip is a special kind of asshole.
Who the fuck is downvoting this?
14 people
Servers making bank.
If you can't afford to tip, you can't afford to eat out or order delivery. Just because the tip system is a terrible system doesn't mean you have an excuse to fuck over the victims of it.
Until there's a national strike on tipping that could lead thousands of tip reliant workers to quit (like the writers strike), be a decent person and have some sympathy. Instead of eating out and not tipping, don't eat out. The restaurant gets the same amount of money whether you tip or not, I guarantee they don't give a shit.
I have sympathy for underpaid workers. But I don't think I'll change my tipping attitude just because you said such and such. Actually your commands sound a bit condescending.
If you can't afford to live without tips, don't volunteer to become a potential victim of a terrible system.
I really should stop going to places that need me to tip. I need to save up my money after my mistakes ruined my life yet again. Im so tired of never being able to make mistakes without nearly losing everything
I see what you mean, but I'm not the one fucking over the employees.
On the short term you are right, but as long as customers keeps tipping, the system works well enough for nothing to change.
The more people stops tipping, the closer we get to change.
And I'm sorry that the change will hurt the employees, but it's not my battle. And tipping does not support the employees battle, just this days income.
Tell me another way I can support their battle, and I'll listen.
(I tip when the employees seems to rely on it, or if I feel extraordinarily well serviced.)
Right, lemme just go on a hunger strike to should stop the most predatory Capitalists in existence /s
That's actually inaccurate.
You can be charged for theft of service for refusing to tip someone. It's happened.
Then it's not a tip, it's wages the customer is expected to pay.
Funny thing is that this guy hates tipping, but they’re going to vote for the candidate and political party that want to keep service salaries so low that tipping is required to live.
If this person really wanted to kill tipping, they should vote for the other party. Those are the folks seriously talking about solutions that would make it unnecessary.
If you try to explain this they'll just go on a unhinged tangent about how Trump single handedly saved the service industry. That, or something equally stupid.
Yes, let's not pretend that these are well-researched positions that make sense. They're identity statements.
Assholes like this love tipping culture. It gives them a feeling of power over people they see as lesser.
I find these types don't hate tipping, they think servers deserve to beg for scraps. They also just don't think it should be them doing the tipping and act like what they gave you is more valuable than the money.
These are the same idiots that will go into a store on Christmas to shop and then rant to the cashier that they shouldn't be open on Christmas. They refuse to have self awareness.
While I do believe the minimum wage is too low and I am wanting it raised, I don't think raising it will stop restaurants from keeping tipping culture. Unless they implement laws to dissolve tips, it makes no sense financially for restaurants to end tipping. Even landlords are getting in on tipping.
its a cult
That's kind of insulting to cult leaders bruh. Most cult leaders have some really honed charisma and at least some specific intellectual strengths.
They removed god and placed Trump. Are evangelicals fine with that?
Plenty fine. There's a lot of them even claiming that Trump is literally the Second Coming, or a prophet thereof. I've even had one tell me that he and Pence (before they all turned against Pence) were the two prophets of the End Times in Revelations.
The funny part is that they supposedly believe in the Antichrist but don't realize Trump is closer to that description than the Second Coming.
I've even had one tell me that he and Pence were the two prophets of the End Times in Revelations.
In a way they are
I think the Republican party stopped caring about the evangelicals back in 2010 when the Tea Party thing happened. By 2012 their candidate was a Mormon and then we all know what happened in 2016.
Trump is their god emperor
Well he did try starting the space force so maybe that was his attempt at a space marine
Omg I didn't even notice that. Jfc
Anyone hard rooting for any politician is a moron. All D and R marked politicians are lizards looking to suck your wallet dry and deprive you of free will. These ultra Trump people are are cringey as the baffoons that think Biden is a good president.
Fuck tipping culture. Rather than begging tips from customers, DEMAND it from your employer.
Yes, but sadly the contrary is happening. Restaurant owners now have a sneaky trick to increase tips in order to lower wages: you know those receipts & terminals that have a “suggested tip”? Yeah, those things.. they keep increasing. I was handed a PoS terminal in Netherlands (where tipping norms are like a couple euro), and the terminal asked me to tap for how much I want to tip which suggested as much as 25%.
It’s working, too. A recent article described how this trick is causing average tips to increase. So the #warOnCash is part of the problem.
I agree with the sentiment, but I think it's important to remember that it's the employers we should be mad at, not the employees.
They're too dumb to realize that it will have the opposite effect. It won't work like "omg i got an ad for [CANDIDATE X] instead of $20, gonna vote for him!!"
It has nothing to do with advertising and everything to do with showing dominance. While liberals are too afraid to say this or that because it might hurt someone's feelings, these right wing lunatics have no problems being very bold and in-your-face about their candidate of choice.
What you're supposed to do with these and the bible verse ones is at least leave a decent tip to go along with this so the server finds it at the end of their shift with their money. Instead, people just leave these pieces of trash.
At first I didn't see any actual evidence that this was connected to Trump, so I figured everyone here was just assuming it was Trump based on how shitty this practice is. I definitely assumed the same.
(If you zoom wayyyy in his name is there, though.)
Been a thing for a long time actually. Since before his cult. Religious fucks leave fake bills with Bible versus on them.
Worked in a resort area and some big church group showed up and tipped using money like that. Like a party of 20 people type group.
Everyone started calling around to establishment saying if you get a group of 20 and they all look like Jesus folk tell them to leave.
Cult people using the cult as an excuse/justification to behave like selfish assholes. A tale as old as time.
When are the rest of us going to get sick of this petulant bullshit?
Trumpism isn't a cult, it's a mainstream religion. Unless you want to make the argument that Trumpism is a sect of Christianity devoted to worshipping the Antichrist
tomato tomato
Wow, this is worthless lol Not tipping is better than this, at least not tipping can't disappoint you more than this can
Wow this is worthless
I hope it's at least two ply so you can wipe with it
I, uh, wouldn't really trust touching that to my skin. I bet they went with the lowest bidder by far that uses some lead-based ink or some shit like that.
It's less than worthless my boy!
Would this be considered counterfeit money and thus illegal?
If it's close enough to the real thing that someone tries to use it as real currency, then it's considered counterfeit. Personally, imo anything dollar-like that's used in place of a tip should be considered an attempt to use counterfeit money.
If it vaguely looks like a dollar and it's more than 75% the size of a regular bill or less than 150% the size, it's in counterfeit territory.
Nope. It's pretty obvious that this isn't really money
by some Trump supporters, yes
Obviously not
Christians have been doing this with Jesus bucks for decades
To be real clear, the only thing this does is screw over the hourly employees trying to survive on tips.
It does absolutely nothing to the business, they don't care, at all. It doesn't impact them in the slightest.
Yes, by law, if someone makes so little in tips that they would be getting paid below minimum wage the business is supposed to make up the difference.
Assuming that happens for the entire shift.
In practice, by all accounts... That pretty much never happens.
Sounds like a great way to make an angry hourly employee into an ardent anti trump voter.
In theory, yes, but in reality it's a religious cult. The majority of his followers won't abandon him no matter how much abuse they suffer from him and their fellow cultists.
Yeah but by continuing to support the tipping system, nothing will ever change. The best thing to do is stop giving business to restaurants with a tipping culture.
If enough people refuse to eat at these places, eventually employees will start quitting and restaurant owners will have to start paying their workers a decent wage.
There are plenty of restaurants with delicious high-quality food and no tips accepted. You don't have to be waited on by a server.
While your plan is good in theory, how many places like this have you found? I have ran into a grand total of zero. It's hard to support businesses doing it a better way when you can't find any.
Huh. I've literally never been anywhere that does this.
In practice, if you report so little tips you cant hit minimum wage management will assume you are (a) lying to the IRS, (b) providing awful service, or (c) business is too slow to justify you being there. Any way you look at you probably wont work there much longer.
And none of those would be considered if no one ever tipped since it wouldn't be one server but all of them.
Wait so they get paid less than the minimum wage? What’s the point of minimum wage if they have to make up for it with tips?
No point. It is purely symbolic.
There's technically two different rates employers are federally required to pay. First there's the standard $7.25/h. The second is for workers that receive cash tips. Employers are allowed to pay said workers as little as $2.13/h so long as their tips and their regular wages work out to $7.25h. If the employee's gross pay works out to less than $7.25/h, then the employer is obligated to make up the difference. The idea, I presume, is to allow some wiggle room to "encourage a more competitive market for smaller businesses," while still ensuring workers make at least the minimum.
Yes. One of the many reasons I say we need a UBI.
People are generalizing, but this isn't the case for all of the US. Things vary by state
so the solution if it never happens, is to enforce it, not say fuck it and having the consumer do their duty for them
this should be illegal
Yes, restaurants should be required to pay a proper wage.
I didn't really get why someone would make a bill with just 2024 on it. Like, do they just really want to make sure that you know about the year 2024?
Then I saw the small print.
That's some real fancy toilet paper!
Hopefully all of Trump's supporters do this.
Can't think of any better way to guarantee his defeat, if he's even a free man by that point.
What a horrible person to do this.
My mom was a waitress when I was growing up, and I know how hard they work. I always tip at the minimum 20%.
Goddamn Trump supporters just keep showing us what broken people they truly are.
This almost pisses me off enough to invent time travel, go back in time, kill my grandfather, and destroy the universe.
This almost pisses me off enough to invent time travel, go back in time, kill my grandfather,
and destroy the universe,sleep with my grandmother, become the mighty one, travel into the future, save the universe
FTFY
ELIF: How is this not illegal? That seriously looks like a 20-dollar bill... I might be missing something.
For the "bill" itself, we can't see the other side, but there's enough differences that you wouldn't mistake it for real currency at more than a glance. Fake bills for movie/tv sets look far closer to real bills (basically with obviously fake serial numbers and "for movie use only" stamped on it.
For leaving it as a tip, it's not being used to satisfy a payment. While tipping is expected, it's not required and there's not an agreed upon amount between the parties. So they're just leaving a scummy flyer behind. Not any different than the people that 'tip' with Chick Tracts. If they were to use it to try and pay the bill, it'd be illegal.
Gotcha, good call out on the front of the bill. I am curious if OP has that for us to see. Thank you for the explanation.
It is clearly marked as not being a $20 bill. That 2024 is huge compared to the real thing. The flip side probably includes a picture of Donnie T instead of Jackson.
If you accept that as legal tender, it's on you. On the bright side, there's no indication that they were trying to pass it off as real money. It's like those screeds where it looks like a $20, but you open it and it says, "I bet you would have been happy if this was real money, but let me tell you, Jesus is better than money."
Gee, thanks. Let me ask the HEB of they'll accept Jesus in exchange for milk and beef.
I wanna see the flip side
Here you go
The real MVP! - you, not that ham hock face on the other side
Assholes get a 25% discount at restaurants.
Assholes should get a tip. Preferably rubbed on their bread
I have to wonder what is going through their heads to think this would be in any way helpful to their cause. It's literally saying "hey I'm screwing you out of money in the name of Trump."
That's definitely going to win over prospective voters.
But consistent with Trump’s complete lack of ethics.
This is either a 4D chess move by Biden’s campaign or Trump’s crowd is dumber than the dumb that we think they are.
I'm curious what the other side looks like.
I’m willing to be 2024 dollars that it’s Trump’s face
With that shitty smile I'm sure. You know the one. Don't make me post a link to the image.
You think he's giving the thumbs up?
Here you go
Should be in prison stripes
Would be more functional on a public restroom that ran out of toilet paper tbfh.
"America I love you but you're freaking me out." -The Menzingers
I would remember that guy, and spit in all his food when he came back.
I would say they're not dumb enough to go back, but, you know, Trump supporter.
Murder urges intensify...
Technically if some idiot hands you one of those, you can have them citizen-arrested for counterfeiting money, right?
citizen-arrested
Don't do this. In almost every case it's technically illegal imprisonment -- leaving you at the mercy of a prosecutor.
Maybe, but also only if it's trying to be used as cash. Trying to pay for groceries, meal, depositing it at a bank, etc. would be an issue. Leaving it as a tip, while a scummy thing to do, isn't on the same ballpark since it's not an agreed upon transaction (i.e. no price for a tip is agreed upon by the parties), and you'd have to prove intent to pass it off as cash and not just a flyer/pamphlet.
, and you’d have to prove intent to pass it off as cash and not just a flyer/pamphlet.
If they left it in the tip jar / tip tray, it's patent intent.
Is that illegal.
I'm pretty sure there is no legal requirement to tip. However, if wait staff end up below minimum wage after tips their employer is supposed to pay the difference, though this usually doesn't happen and most people aren't aware of it. Wage theft is the most common form of theft in the US, and this plays a part in it.
I think they mean is leaving counterfeit money as a payment of service illegal
I would like to change the title from "a new trend in tipping" to a "a new trend in being an asshole".
uh what is this >?
basically a promotional flyer for the Trump 2024 campaign
What’s so revolting and obnoxious about @STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world’s trolling is low wages and high tips are precisely in line with #Trump principles (and in fact right-wing conservatives in general) and contrary to the principles of the liberals who are repulsed by Trump & his repugnance.
The whole situation with tipping is following a path of degeneration, which I wouldn't dare to say we have seen the end. However, this reminds me of the millionaire of better call saul who wanted to secede from the US and had printed his own money xd
I don't know, it looks like it would make for some good toilet paper.