Why is everyone vehemently against easier lives?
Conveniences, automation, safety plans, etc. Everyone loves winging it and having piles of chores, but then they complain about life being hard, but then they don't change anything
A ton of automation and 'convenience' being sold is terribly thought out or makes life more complex than not having it.
Smart bulbs are way more work to set up than they are worth for me, a light switch works fine. Cruise control is nice, but lane assist drives me nuts with all the false positives. Generally the overwhelming number of chores comes from just having too many things in the first place.
Fewer, simpler operating things are more enjoyable for me than a lot of complex automated things that don't do what I want them to do.
I have smart switches, mostly because I'm a tinkerer and build and repair things for fun. I work in IT, so I don't trust any of this. But the switches work like normal for people not used to it. While I also have a button that turns all the lights off in the whole house at once.
My main automations are basically timers. They turn lights on and off at sunrise/down. And one that turns on my backdoor lights when my garage door opens.
As for cars, I totally agree. Adaptive cruise control is the extent of the smart I want in a car. I've had too many false positives where the car will automatically apply the brakes when it didn't need to. And not once where I was in danger of crashing. Once on a bend in the road where a car was parked on the side and another where an RV had pulled to the side on a turn out to let people pass and the car freaked out because it didn't realize the road turned.
I've also had it nudge the wheel too often when I'm purposely hugging one side of the lane because there is construction or a car on the side of the road.
I think automation in general has been in an awkward stage for a while, maybe analogous to adolescence or puberty. At some point our immediate world will become truly automated, able to sense what we need or want and provide it with very minimal setup and instruction, like a cocoon of personal convenience. Right now it's more like a 19th century vision of a house of the future with pulleys and wires everywhere - we haven't gotten rid of the pulleys and wires, we've just moved them into apps.
At some point our immediate world will become truly automated, able to sense what we need or want and provide it with very minimal setup and instruction
This will never happen for me because every single instance of 'user friendly' I can think of is the opposite of what I want. Yeah, I don't notice the things that work, but I notice a lot of counter intuitive automation that does the opposite of what I want it to do.
A ton of automation and 'convenience' being sold is terribly thought out or makes life more complex than not having it.
Yeah, not EVERYTHING is an internet controlled dishwasher that locks up when updating so no one can hack it.
Smart bulbs are way more work to set up than they are worth for me, a light switch works fine.
Not everything is Philips Hue™®© overcomplicated overpriced nonsense with hubs and accounts and crap. Off brands are much easier. I love being able to just switch the light off from my phone without having to get up, and turn it on without needing to reach for a switch in the dark. Or better, have them turn on automatically at times I'd be needing them. Or have motion controlled lights that only turn on if motion is detected between sunset and sunrise times.
Cruise control is nice, but lane assist drives me nuts with all the false positives.
My electric scooter has that, and I don't use it, seems too risky especially in an area where people without cars are hated more than literal terrorists.
Generally the overwhelming number of chores comes from just having too many things in the first place.
Not entirely wrong, but everyone manages to overcomplicate the simplest chores possible.
Fewer, simpler operating things are more enjoyable for me than a lot of complex automated things that don't do what I want them to do.
The best automation solutions are the non-electric ones. It can be as simple as having an easy routine like only scooping cat litter whenever you use the toilet.
All of you writing cogent arguments and being philosophical should step back and realize this whole thread is an unpaid advertisement for amazon subscription groceries written by someone who thinks they were saved by a job there.
I'm glad this is the top comment because lordy have mercy, what is OP on about.
I don't think i was saved. I was saved.
And it's not only about subscribe & save, but other solutions. I just feel super alone like everyone wants to have hours of chores instead of making them easier. There are solutions that cost nothing, like having an easy routine or combining a chore with something you do every day. Like, just taking out the trash earlier in the day costs nothing. But family insists on keeping themselves awake waiting until 11:59:59PM to take out the trash which takes hours because one person keeps over-overbuying produce and never using it all. Like, buy less of it, and take out the trash earlier. That SAVES money for fucks sake
I opened the thread thinking, "this has to be a bait post where the op just soapboxes about how much better at life they are than everyone else, and argues with literally everyone offering perspective" and I'm glad to see I was not wrong! Boy if your replies aren't some of the least self aware, most elitist stuff I've seen here so far.
I dunno man, why doesn't everyone with actual problems just ahh, buy an Android phone, learn how to program or do whatever the hell else you think everyone should be doing to just simply live the obviously better life that you have?
Oh wait, not everyone has the same opportunities as everyone else, and so not only may these options be unavailable to a lot of people, they may also be completely useless in solving someone's difficult life.
You sound like a Tech Bro in their early twenties who landed a sweet job out of college (that they didn't pay for) and wonders why people choose to be homeless. And before you try to correct me, that's what you sound like, so unless that's the persona you wanna give off, maybe try to listen to what people are saying instead of trying to find out how they're wrong.
Do you really think people with "difficult lives" are so stressed out because they forgot to take the garbage out multiple times? Seriously? Christ 😂
Good its not just me.
Thank god my smart phone can spell sanctimonious for me, its made my life so much easier.
Oooh, what a beautiful word! It'd fallen out of my vocab. Thanks for that.
I opened the thread thinking, "this has to be a bait post where the op just soapboxes about how much better at life they are than everyone else, and argues with literally everyone offering perspective" and I'm glad to see I was not wrong! Boy if your replies aren't some of the least self aware, most elitist stuff I've seen here so far.
bruh what. I'm just traumatized, not elitist.
I dunno man, why doesn't everyone with actual problems just ahh, buy an Android phone, learn how to program or do whatever the hell else you think everyone should be doing to just simply live the obviously better life that you have?
That's ONE solution out of countless. I'm saying anyone can make a solution that works for themselves whether it's tech based or not.
Oh wait, not everyone has the same opportunities as everyone else, and so not only may these options be unavailable to a lot of people, they may also be completely useless in solving someone's difficult life.
Everyone has the opportunity to improve their lives. If you're working and making money then you can make your life exactly the way you want it to be. It takes time and effort, yeah, but it's not impossible.
You sound like a Tech Bro in their early twenties who landed a sweet job out of college (that they didn't pay for) and wonders why people choose to be homeless. And before you try to correct me, that's what you sound like, so unless that's the persona you wanna give off, maybe try to listen to what people are saying instead of trying to find out how they're wrong.
Nah I'm a 27 year old who was locked away for 20 years, and I've only got to live and experience life for 3 years. I landed a sweet job at ✨ Amazon ✨ I do love technology (well, technology that isn't stupid) and I think "homeless" should mean primarily renting an apartment. Having zero shelter shouldn't have a word, it shouldn't be a thing.
Do you really think people with "difficult lives" are so stressed out because they forgot to take the garbage out multiple times? Seriously? Christ 😂
That was quite literally my family. Or, is. Is my family. Yet they refuse to just... Take out the trash earlier so they don't need to remember right before they sleep like the countless months of consecutive weeks of forgetting. They complain about having no time for anything but refuse to order online instead of going to two Targets, two Costcos, Bj's, Walmart, Stop & Shop, Walgreens, Aldi, Lidl, and five international stores in the same day for fifteen hours, back to back Saturday and Sunday, and having to wait until Monday night to sleep. You know, to buy the same things you could buy from Amazon or from those stores as a delivery order. There are other things they can do that they just don't do, and blame me, the person wanting things to be easier, for ALL of the problems caused by them not wanting to change because God didn't make lazy people. God STILL didn't drop a tree on me or kill me with lightning like I demand every day. Stop trying to impress a concept.
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You HAVE to realize that there are people who can't even afford the groceries in the first place?! Not everyone is your mom wasting money on stuff they can't afford! Some people don't have it in the first place!
After this I'm convinced you've never seen a single actual difficult day in your life, sorry. To say that you're "traumatized" by having too much food in the fridge and spending too much money on buying stuff is fucking hilarious, though.
OP, someone with a different routine for chores is not "vehemently against an easier life" lmao.
They'd still manually go shopping instead of ordering online for literally the same price or a literally trivial higher amount. Like imagine going in person to buy toilet paper for one and a half dollars cheaper than buying online. Like bro you spent more than 1.5 USD in GAS or public transit going there bruh!
I normalized my crazy mother. Seems like everyone isn't my crazy mother which is a good thing. I don't wish my childhood on anyone. Imagine having the resources to live a better life and have more experiences, and NEVER getting them, and you're not allowed to complain. Imagine being the stinky kid, and being unable to NOT be the stinky kid. You know why you're stinky, but calling out your mother makes you spoiled and entitled.
I feel like you're dealing with some problems and blaming them on different things. Being stinky as a child and your mother not allowing you to wash yourself is something totally unrelated to going to the grocery store versus using a delivery service.
Idk, it seems like you're really upset. Tone doesn't come across well on the Internet and I can tell this thread has you defensive already, so let me be clear when I say that me saying you're upset isn't me trying to somehow dismiss things you're saying because you're emotional. I know that sometimes when I get very upset and emotional, I have a tendency to see things as connected when they're not. Even when I know I'm being overly paranoid I can't help it. It appears as if you're very upset about the way your mother has treated you and you're expressing frustration about it. None of us can know what you've been through. It sounds like you're trying to express a lifetime of anger in a few comments. It's just not going to come across clearly.
When you say "how can people not want to improve their lives" with the context of what you'vw just said, it sounds more like you're lamenting that your parents didn't let you properly bathe yourself. But without this context, it just sounds like you're just being angry at people for frivolous things like choosing to go to the store instead of using a delivery service. (And there are plenty of reasons to want to actually go in person.) It sounds as if you have gotten into a million arguments with your mother during your childhood about these sorts of things. Now, I'm really only guessing here, but it sounds like you're seeing it all as connected. You're seeing the abuse (?) your mother put you through by not letting you bathe as "someone refusing to improve their life" and perhaps equating it to arguments you've had with your mother about using delivery services so save money. But your mother not allowing you to bathe/not providing you with what you needed to bathe as a child isn't your mother "refusing to improve her/your life", it's neglect.
Because it sounds like you're processing some issues, I don't think an Ask Lemmy thread is the right place to do it. Because when you accuse folks of going to the grocery store instead of using deliveries or criticize their methods of doing laundry/taking out garbage, it just sounds like you're being an asshole.
I hope you find your peace.
What are you talking about? Do you think convenience is free?
It costs the same amount as overcomplicated lives. And if you're saving so much money by living on cup noodles and 4 hours of sleep a week, you wouldn't have much time to use it.
The one thing that every human has in common is their ability to complain about anything, an alien race could come and solve every single problem on earth, with every single need want or desire fulfilled and we'd still complain.
We thrive on complaining, we need to complain.
I'd agree with you but your post is way too long! Uuuuugh! I almost burned a whole calorie writing this reply!
Because all those nice-to-haves and conveniences in vehicles make it harder and more costly to repair.
Today a classmate showed me the mechanism for the gas door opener her company manufactures (assembles). It's a bunch of rods, a motor, a control board, springs, cables, etc, that run throughout the vehicle.
The fuel door on my '99 Cherokee?
A hinge and a spring.
This is obviously one small example but i feel that this example of over-engineering for very little benefit extrapolates well.
Imagine just not having a vehicle lol imagine spending less than $1000 once and being able to get around oh right that's horrible we should buy huge metal boxes that require government licenses that cost so much, and fuel that costs oh so much, and complain about not having money. Right, that removed on a bike is the reason why you have no money, not the fact you spend ten times the amount you accuse young people of spending on Starbucks on an inferior travel method. A developed country is not where the poor have cars, it's where the rich use public transit.
A developed country is not where the poor have cars, it’s where the rich use public transit.
Tangentially, this cracker of a quote is from the mayor of Bogotá IIRC. It is very accurate and I've often used it too.
It is absolutely not safe to ride a bike in my city. I live in a third world country and the roads are not lit well, and the busses ride in the bike lanes as if they were not there.
In fact, the bike lane on the cities main road through the city put the turning lanes in the bike lanes, so good luck not getting hit by a car from behind.
I don't know what you're referring to. Most people love conveniences and automation. There are extremely few cases i can think of where people choose the hard way instead of the easy way when the results are the same.
Name some specific examples of what you're talking about
I feel like OP is high during the whole process of making this post and replying to comments. This shit is funny af
No, just remembering horrible experiences. I hate that family and that family's mother more.
I am not making fun of you nor judging the way you want to live, i just don't agree with it, that's all. Keep living as you wish, but just so you know the way you present this to people is flawed in some ways.
Probably because in most cases, doing so requires a tradeoff of some sort. Hardware, design and planning, upkeep, data privacy and reliance on external factors/services etc.
So when it doesn't fit together and people don't even have any real source of help (not to mention enshittification) it should be no wonder that the existing way (or "live with it") is the only real option.
Also there is also the angle of some "easier" options that sound nice on paper but end up creating their own problems (or are just too expensive to be viable).
Probably because in most cases, doing so requires a tradeoff of some sort. Hardware, design and planning, upkeep, data privacy and reliance on external factors/services etc.
Then don't rely on external servers and shit. Don't get cheap unreliable devices. Don't use a smart speaker. If you want voice controls then buy a burner android and make an app that converts your voice to a string, and passes it to your smart assistant of choice. If you can text Alexa, you could do what I just described. Learn to code if you don't know how to literally tell a robot what to do.
So when it doesn't fit together and people don't even have any real source of help (not to mention enshittification) it should be no wonder that the existing way (or "live with it") is the only real option.
It's the most appealing option to people scared of technology who like to victimize themselves over their Hard Life instead of actually making it easier.
Also there is also the angle of some "easier" options that sound nice on paper but end up creating their own problems (or are just too expensive to be viable).
So having no sleep, no time to relax, and the same lack of money is better?
For the majority of people, doing all that you described is a lot more work than just flipping a light switch. Let me explain with two xkcd comics, first:
You say write your own program as if that was something everyone can do on a whim. Even experienced programmers might find relatively simple tasks can hold possible complications. So it's not as easy as just doing it. But most importantly:
I have to get up to turn off the lights possibly once a day, most of the times I turn them on/off I'm already walking past the switch, but let's be generous and assume once a day I have to go out of my way to turn them off, and let's be extra generous and say it takes me 30 seconds to do it, so spending more than 12h trying to automate that is a waste of time because it would take me more than 5 years to gain the time I saved back. However, my Christmas lights are all plugged to a smart plug, because otherwise I would need to turn them on individually once a day and turn them off individually before going to bed, and buying a random smart plug I can control with my phone took me way less than that time, so it's worth it.
You seem to think automation is always worth it, but sometimes it's not. It depends on how much it costs (be it in money or time) vs how much you gain, and also you need to contemplate how much you lose. For example my Christmas lights are on smart plugs like I mentioned, technically someone might be able to hack them, so I wouldn't put my computer on one of them, even though it might be useful to measure power consumption, because someone might theoretically turn my computer off so the possible drawback outweigh the benefits of measure the consumption. Sure, I could design my own smart plug and use it, but that would take me a long time and I'd rather spend that time with my family.
Honestly, I live a slow life. Time is the main thing that I have. I dabble with programming, but not really for android and I don't even use a "smart assistant", I don't even have mobile service due to cost and lack of need.
My idea of making life easier was ripping the carpet out of my room. It is much easier to sweep a wood floor and I can do it at any time.
Even the things that I would want to automate in my life I don't think I could make a robot to accomplish it (honestly, I have a dusty 3D printer after upgrading to a beta dual extruder pushed complication a bit too far for me, as I already disliked the design/tolerances iteration process).
My main issues right now are related to living on the edge of nowhere, no way to meet people+nothing to do, no ability to move (without being homeless), low water pressure, polyester clothes/sheets that don't get clean. None of those are really fixable with automation. EDIT: Also (lack of) healthcare. That could be automated (particularly just for better-than-nothing) but not by me, obviously.
Smooth, predictable operation requires forethought, planning, and willingness to stick to a process. It's not nearly as fun as living in the moment and improvising.
It's fun having peace of mind though. It's fun being able to binge movies without suddenly realizing you forgot something important. It's fun being able to nap without waking up in a cold sweat because you forgot to take out trash for the tenth week in a row. It's fun being able to forget the time and get immersed in hobbies.
I don't think anyone is actually against having an easier life, but that it's a problem of not being able to see the forest for the trees.
Making the plan in the first place is difficult for a lot of people. Following the plan can be orders of magnitude more difficult, particularly if someone is entrenched in a routine.
My view is that the perceived difficulty of changing your life is greater than the perceived simpleness of the current process.
Maybe there is some brilliant way to automate my most tedious chores. But then I've got to spend cognitive power directed at a task I find tedious. It might be easier to do things the way they've always been done rather than to think and try out new processes which don't always work.
Life is pretty hard though, and you can't change everything. I don't know if that means you shouldn't try, but I understand someone's desire to keep their head down
Making the plan in the first place is difficult for a lot of people. Following the plan can be orders of magnitude more difficult, particularly if someone is entrenched in a routine.
Making a plan is effort, but you can make the plan as easy as possible. My plan for home living is to have zero chores throughout the week. Only one day a week I will do chores, and it'll be 1 hour (2 hours if I have animals). Imagine coming home from work and having absolutely nothing to do, so horrible ugh I should be cooking, cleaning, and grocery shopping until it's time for me to leave for work. Having time to unwind, shower, and sleep is for tech bros 🙄
My view is that the perceived difficulty of changing your life is greater than the perceived simpleness of the current process.
Maybe there is some brilliant way to automate my most tedious chores. But then I've got to spend cognitive power directed at a task I find tedious. It might be easier to do things the way they've always been done rather than to think and try out new processes which don't always work.
Spend cognitive power once. Then "never" do it again. I'm never mopping, vacuuming, grocery shopping, or washing dishes. If I have animals I'm never feeding them, giving water, cleaning waste, grooming, or bathing them. All of that can be automated, so I'm automating it. Am I really going to spend my limited time on earth cleaning up dogshit?
Life is pretty hard though, and you can't change everything. I don't know if that means you shouldn't try, but I understand someone's desire to keep their head down
You could change a LOT. For starters, you really don't need to drive to Costco for groceries. You could spend those hours doing something much better for yourself instead of going into traffic to complain about the traffic, walking in a crowded store to complain about the crowded store, wait on a long line to complain about the long line, then load up the car while hopefully not being screamed at by some tiktoker about putting the cart away, then drive home in the same slow traffic that can be lapped by a toddler on a three wheel scooter going up a hill, then unload the groceries for an hour and spend more hours trying to fit it all into the overfilled refrigerator and freezer you didn't check before leaving, and then finally checking the time to see that you will be late for work if you don't rush and get dressed and leave in the next twenty minutes. That actually can change, and whatever extra costs are probably as high as the amount you spend on gas, car insurance, Costco membership, anti stress supplements, weed, and impulse purchases made to cope with having to pull all nighters every weekend. You could just, not, pull all nighters for one fucking chore.
You sound like you've never had to care for yourself or a home a day in your life, and have no idea how the real world functions for anyone but the most privileged and entitled.
You're in for a real eye opener once you venture out on your own (or not, if you have the kind of privilege that would generate this mindset, I have a feeling you'll always have someone to go around after you cleaning up your messes and you may never get the slap in the face from reality you so desperately need).
I don't really disagree with your opinion, but I don't think it's all a one-size-fits-all solution for everyone.
If it was easy for people to change, they would. Like honestly, nobody wants a hard life. But there's lots of reasons why people don't, and you can't always tell what they are as an outsider looking in
I've read the whole threads. I am interested in a brief, short summary of what you have automated. If I've read correctly, you hate going to the grocery, so this is automated? How? What else is automated?
I buy all my groceries with Amazon Subscribe and Save. I don't get a lot of fresh/frozen stuff, and when I do, it's usually unnecessary things I wanted like ice cream. I'll gladly ride a scooter to a supermarket for exactly one ice cream quart and nothing else, spending literally 6 minutes including standing on the self checkout line and purchasing.
My light turns off automatically 5 minutes after the time I depart for work, if it's on at that time.
My fan, heater, and wax warmer are connected to Alexa on my fire TV and phone. The wax warmer is on a smart plug and automatically turns off after 5 hours.
I take out MY trash when leaving for the gym. MY trash is already gathered in one bag, so taking it out and putting in a new bag is just an extra minute. I do this only when leaving for the gym and NOT work, so life is easier. Getting to the gym a minute late is not an issue, getting to the train station a minute late can mean I can't make it to work. Obviously I don't leave that late, BUT if I do, I still make it without forgetting to take out trash.
I put my clothes in the washer before getting in the shower, and put it in the dryer before departing for the gym. This way, when I come back from the gym, I can bring my laundry back into my bedroom and hang it up (the most effort). And now I have zero chores to do for the rest of the week, I can work in peace, come home and do nothing (after successfully escaping family who refuses to listen to me)
Sounds like you eat trash. Most of what I buy from the grocery store is fresh or frozen, pretty much everything else is a slow boring flavorless heavy salted death. I haven't found a service that can automate my grocery shopping to my satisfaction and frankly I wouldn't want to. My weekly meal planning happens in the vegetable department based on what in season, available locally, looks appetizing, etc.
It also sounds like you live alone, not having to contend with other people's changing schedules and laundry needs.
You're automated "easy" life sounds like an empty void. I'm not convinced you're "living" your life at all, just killing time.
Huh?
I don't think people are, but the major factor is cost here - both in money and time. Getting a maid, a nanny, a dog walker, paying extra for delivery, paying for apps, more expensive automation products (e.g., hue) etc. etc.
All of this costs money, and a lot of time to research & test. Not everyone has that.
Some things are best done personally
Some, not all. In this day and age where technology exists, some things should just never be done.
Yeah but those aren't the only choices available. Hue is literally the Cybertruck of smart lights. It's fucking stupid. Instacart is counterproductive. You're still tethered to a phone instead of just being able to relax or do something else like walk your own damn dog. Amazon fresh now costs more, but it'll pay for itself when you're not spending more than the monthly fee to buy gas to commute to a store to buy the same things for the same markup. And even if it costs more, time spent NOT doing something stressful is worth it. Ditch that stupid ass costco membership it's fucking pointless buying bulk produce to eat less than 5% of and throw out the rest. Definitely worth commuting for hours! So stupid.
My first smart strip light required some research I quickly did when I impulse bought it for same day delivery. The WS2811 strip needed a compatible controller and the controller needed a power supply. Bought those three things so easily as a complete newbie, set it up with Alexa and my fire TV so I could control it with the TV remote and my phone and everything. The controller I had was ass though, was only hue (actual hue, not the brand) based with no saturation. I bought a WS2811 compatible Alexa compatible 16-million color controller for like $16, and now my strip has 16 million colors. Oh, and I never need to worry about leaving it on or turning it off. It turns off automatically 5 minutes after I leave for work if it's on at the time.
I am going to come across like a condescending dick here, but real talk: Does Amazon have an EAP for access to counseling or therapy? If so, and you're not leveraging it already, I think you would benefit from doing so.
I agree with some of the sentiment you present in this thread, if not all aspects/means (the points about simplifying aspects of your life in general are well taken), but if you're not trolling even a little bit it sounds like you're suffering a lot.
Automating labor without ensuring it doesn't impact people's ability to obtain needs and wants is objectively worse than them continuing to work
I'm not talking about work as in jobs, I'm talking about housework. Everyone has at least five jobs, taking care of their home is four of them.
We need to grind for a sense of pride and accomplishment.
They feel the need to grind. No one needs to grind.
This is a bit too vague for me, but I think some of what you mention sounds like inconvenience now for future convenience. For safety plan example, it's mildly inconvenient for me to get my kit together (I live in an earthquake-heavy area and just outside the tsunami hazard zone), know locations and routes, etc. but you'd best believe that it's better to pay that inconvenience now than flap if I do have to evacuate. I think timescales are important to think of (kinda like the RoI of your actions).
I like cooking, I like gardening. Husband likes washing the cars. Sure I like convenience - live about a mile from work so can easily get there without a car, have a Roomba, hire for biweekly cleaning so we can have weekends. But some sorts of activities you think of as inconveniences may be stuff other people enjoy doing.
Is your planning theoretical at this point? Your responses sound like you haven't actually implemented these plans.
I hate automation to the point of being a Ludite. We're chasing our own tails. Every new luxury becomes a necessity we can't do without and we become enslaved
I'm not entirely clear if this is a rhetorical question and you wanted to vent for a bit, or if you're genuinely looking for an answer?
If it's to vent, then I kinda understand. It sucks to see someone you love suffer. It sucks again when you think you found an answer and they tell you no. Each time you try again and get your answer rejected, the feeling gets worse and worse until you start blaming them for their own suffering. I've been on both sides of that.
They tell you to stay strong. That love and patience will change their minds eventually. On a level, it makes sense. If a problem has been persisting for decades, it's kinda unfair to think you can solve it overnight. It's likely the solution is also going to take years. But then you spend the time trying only to find more layers to the problem.
If you're looking for some kind of answer, then the best I can offer is it's Trauma. We all go through our own traumatic experiences. Events so bad it takes away a piece of us and leaves us scarred. Those scars change how we each approach or avoid situations. Not many people want to relive their traumatic experiences, even if it would lead to better lives.
Sorry if it's not the answer you're looking for.
I love to simplify my life, and add automation, but lately all of it is just more and more ads, more and more AI nonsense that doesn't work, and the rest are half baked ideas that also don't work half the time, so honestly, if things automation, I'll keep my old fashioned life where I do more things which work fine and I don't have stupid ads , clueless AI, or half-baked features that don't really solve anything.
Because a human who doesn’t move their body becomes miserable and unhealthy. Zero is not a good level of activity.
Yeah because you move your body sooooo much sitting in a car and walking slower than a newborn snail in Costco, instead of working out at a gym, walking at a park, playing Just Dance, walking your dog, etc.
A job externalizes the motivation to keep moving. That matches our brains’ evolution. It’s easier to get out of bed every day for a job than it is for going to the gym and playing Just Dance.
Just tell us you're trolling without trying to convince people that you aren't.
Seems like everyone from the instance you're posting from, is just a trolling asshole.
I'm not, it's just my childhood is so crazy that it seems like a joke. That family suffered so much when they didn't need to. A relative spent her whole life suffering, and now she died from cancer. The most fun thing she did was play candycrush. That family's mother is worse than I thought.
But honestly, it's so validating that I suffered unnecessarily because of her. I've had the family and everyone say that I was the problem. I was the reason why I was a filthy kid who only showered with water. I was the reason why I had no lunch for school or juice at home. I was the reason why I'd come to school sick and spread the illness around.
They only saw the price tags on my clothes and assumed I chose those clothes. I never liked brand clothes, and if I had the choice, I'd get unbranded stuff and FUCKING BUY BODY WASH AND LUNCH INSTEAD! Like today! Where I NEVER run out of body wash! And I have something to drink all the time now that childhood is over and I CAN WORK! Fuck childhood. Thanks Amazon!
Dang, this post needs a Fediverse equivalent to raisedbynarcissists.
You were raised by mindless people who constantly misused their time and money in ways that directly affected your daily life. Their anti-logical ways left you constantly neglected in some ways, despite the fact that they had the means to cover all your basic needs. This neglect was obvious to anyone who saw you day to day, but they blamed you because your family controlled many decisions that are normally left up to the kids.
That being said, you're not asking about "everyone" as your title says, you're asking about your family. Also, their words are complaining, but what they are doing is actually bragging. There is a high cultural value on being busy, and they've found ways to be VERY busy by having a literally insane way of life, with exhausting routines that are built around excess and waste.
Still, this is not a question for a broader audience, but a rant about one stubbornly insane family.
And the answer is, because they are more proud of their exhausting, difficult lives than you are proud of your planned, easy life.
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They're fucking stupid as hell. Also there's people that just hate change even if it's in their favor. The rest are pretending to be stupid because they are benifited by the status quo
The answer is simple. Propaganda. For probably thousands of years, religions have preached that hard work and sacrifice are virtues. They of course only pay off in the next life.
May Christian cults go so far as to believe that your after life is set in stone before you are even born, yet that being happy is evil and you shouldn't do it even if you are not gonna go to heaven for it.
Every day I curse out every religious leader I know of. I tell them to strike me down with lightning or a tree. Every day.
I still never got hit by a tree or lightning.
But like.. why? Isn't that a waste of time, something you hold dear? That gives these religious leaders a lot of power over you, for you to practically be praying to every one of them, every day, probably spending more time praying than actual religious people are..
Unless you're just saying you do, to look edgy on the internet..? But who would do that..
As a kid in a Catholic family I remember my dad saying God intended man to live "by the sweat of his brow". No idea if it's a bible quote or what, I can just hear him saying it. But I think there's a mentality that life wasn't meant to be fun or easy, and therefore thinking it should be is a wrong thought. Somehow this doesn't make inheriting wealth and living in abject luxury evil or wrong, as long as you still have a work ethic. Or something, I dunno.
I've heard this before, and when I stopped believing in god I vowed that if god had an issue with me having an easy life he can come fist fight me.
Reminds me of the Feng Shui guy on TikTok... "Just fix it!"
Personally, I find "rough living" a helluva lot easier than the "convenient" world we have built. At least shit makes sense when you have to grow/hunt your own food, build your own shelter, etc. I would prefer to have to do all that, than the kinds of things I have to do in order to eat, have clothing and shelter, etc in society.
Evil people. Assuming you mean, like, politically or morally or something.